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need some sup help

Skye

Skye

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I am out of my area of expertise here, would like some advise and clear answer (I know that’s not always possible) if someone can help me out here. (if any of these have been anwsered sorry, I have been reading though and haven't specsifics)

1st. Is there any real reason to use Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine Sulfate verses the hydrochloride versions? I don’t mind paying more if it is that much better but as it is 22 dollars verses 12 dollars (and its more mg per tab for the same number) that would need to be significant as I can easily increase the dosage to compensate.

2nd. Is MSN necessary? Its cheap enough to add (it doesn’t come in the tablet for the hydrochloride versions, it is in Sulfate versions of it.) Its easy enough to add though as it is dirt cheap and does not even come close to making the cost difference.

3rd. Is there any benifet to using celery seed extract instead of celery seed powder/crushed? It seam that 75 mg of extract or 500mg powder seams to be the options here.

4th. What is the actual lowdown on R-ALA? I have used ALA for long time but people keep telling me all kinds of things about the R-ALA. Given the cost it would have to be good

5. What forms of hawthorn are available and which are the best?

If it sounds like I’m a cheap ass, well I am. I can afford the stuff I just am a penny pincher by nature. But at the same time if there is a good reason or if I am getting a quality product instead of a cheap one I will spend the money. ( I never buy cheap bear ). So if there is a good reason please let me know.
 
1. Either one is fine

2. MSM? Even though it is cheap I am not sure you'll get much from it. I could be wrong, but I have not seen enough to indicate it is.

3. Use whatever is cheapest. 500mg means a whole extra capsule, whereas 75mg can be mixed in with other things. That could be a consideration.

4. Go to AvantLabs' forum. There was recently a discussion about ALA vs R-ALA vs K-R-ALA. Gist: taking plain ALA will make bioavailable MORE R-ALA than taking plain R-ALA. K-R-ALA will deliver more than ALA, but it is obviously more expensive. So for just anti-oxidant purposes, ALA is cost effective, but if you are looking for glucose disposal K-R-ALA is the way to go, or for facilitated transport Glucophase XR, which is probably not much more expensive than K-R-ALA.

5. couldn't tell you
 
This is certainly anecdotal and all, so heed with discretion, and not to start up any big RALA vs. KRALA vs. ALA turmoil, but I've had better luck with regular ALA than RALA, which I've been using to increase insulin sensitivity. I know it works better because I actually check my glucose levels periodically through the day, and they have markedly gone down since I switched from RALA to ALA. Mind you, the brand may also have something to do with this, because the (not very cheap) ALA from Walgreen's was largely ineffective, but now I am using Swanson's ALA. The only RALA I've tried was from 1-fast and it didn't lower my glucose very much even at 600mg ED. This is in no way an attempt to impugn 1-fast because everything else I've gotten from them has been great, and they have great customer service and all, etc. Anyway, the numbers have been about so, fasting ALA ~mid 80's, RALA ~100 - 110, and post-prandial ALA ~100-109 , RALA ~120-139. Obviously the uptake is much faster, as the post-prandial tests are usually 2 hours after eating, give or take five to ten minutes either way.


But, I am not a lab or scientific study, so take it all with a large grain of salt.

:D
 
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