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Need new pre workout *NO YOHIMBE, NO CREATINE*

Buffspartan

Buffspartan

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Just shopping around to see what's popped onto the market lately. I'm getting tired of my old pre workout and I want to try something new. I'm very stim tolerant so I need something strong, but I also have kidney issues so I can't have anything with yohimbe or creatine. Alright go
 
High Volume + caffeine

Everything you need
 
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Right now this is 15% off as well with "orbit15"
 
Thunderbolt (by Antaeus) coupled with caffeine and maybe Alpha GPC (if you can afford the latter). Unfortunately, it is currently out of stock most places, as it has been reformulated. My second choice for a preworkout is to just cut costs and go with nitrates and caffeine. Antaeus does also make some pretty awesome nootropic type supplements that you may want to check out, regardless of the pre-workout you end up getting. We have Galantamine, 7,8-dihydroxyflavone, Triacetyluridine and Queen Bee Acid. They all provide subtle (and generally side free) yet noticeable improvements in cognition, attention, etc.
 
High volume alone is awesome. I like adding some citrulline and noxygen by purus labs and some grape seed extract and you will get a crazy pump!
 
White Rapids is a great all around pre. Add a bronkaid for an extra kick.
 
Maybe try something a little different like focus xt? The ingredients won't give you the insane stim Rush (although there is plenty of caffeine for most) but the blend of focus geared ingredients will get you into a "zone" in a very different manner than most other pre's
 
Buffspartan said:
Just shopping around to see what's popped onto the market lately. I'm getting tired of my old pre workout and I want to try something new. I'm very stim tolerant so I need something strong, but I also have kidney issues so I can't have anything with yohimbe or creatine. Alright go
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See if you can get your hands on a container of E.S.P. by Metabolic Nut and this delivers good energy and focus
but don't try starting with the big scoop that's a SCARY 500mg of caffeine just start with the small scoops and I
wouldn't use it more that twice a week cause you build a tolerance to AMP very quick.
 
A lot of people on here reviewed White Rapids and thoroughly enjoyed its energy and pumps. No yohimbe or creatine.

Under 30 bucks and at 2 scoops per serving, it gives you plenty in terms of pump, energy, and endurance.
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White Rapids gets another vote from me.

Or you could give something like Komodo Manik a try if you want something higher stim.
 
Bronkaid will make any pre workout awesome haha. I got plenty of ephedrine HCL that I got from Canada though.
 
booneman77 said:
Maybe try something a little different like focus xt? The ingredients won't give you the insane stim Rush (although there is plenty of caffeine for most) but the blend of focus geared ingredients will get you into a "zone" in a very different manner than most other pre's
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I like Focus XT for studying, but it never did much for me in the gym to be completely honest.
 
Volvo140G said:
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check out the new hypermax xt - got it on sale too ;)
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Can't do Hypermax. Has Rauwolscine which is alpha-yohimbe
 
Volvo140G said:
good eye! my bad
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Not a prob. I tried Alphamine which has alpha yohimbe in it and it shot my kidney disease into a full blown relapse. Never again lol.
 
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