idk, but I loved blue up when I used it. how about Universal N1-T, I haven't used it, but it has a similar ingredient profile. either way, blue up was a great sup for me, even with only 30%... :thumbsup:
Their are a bunch of trib products. We have a nice trib/ecdy product called Testabolan that works very fast and effectively. But also their are a bunch of other products in the market that also work very well.:thumbsup:
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