Need help for my second cycle. Epistane and/or Andromass.

Fivomass

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Hi,
I’m thinking to do a Ph cycle soon, it will be my second .Last February I was thinking to try Epi as my first one but someone gave me the advice to try Cynostane as my first one. So i did. Results, after 4 weeks 30/30/40/40…zero! A big fail. I changed my diet, double protein intake, changed my training routine as I supposed to do, but nothing changed. I spent a lot of money for nothing and I was not happy at all. I was still 85 kilos at 9% body fat as day one. Also i felt a lot lethargic all this time while on cycle. My pct was lean xtreme, Activate xtreme, reversitol and cycle assist. I was hoping to gain something while on pct cause of Activate xtreme but no gains.
So I’m thinking to try a new one as I said with Epi this time for 6 weeks 30/30/30/40/40/40.
I’m a big fun of lean bulking. My diet is always just above maintance (+250 calories) to minimize any extra fat storage but while on cycle I will boost it close to 4000 calories per day (+600-800). Is a 40/40/20 (prot/carbs/fats) diet good for that period and while on pct a 45/20/35?
I will run cycle assist oct and pct, animal flex, omega 3, Dark matter and I was thinking to stack Epi with Activate xtreme to fight any libido or litharge problems. I will add it on the last 3 weeks, 6 pills per day and keep it until my pct ends. What do you think of that? Any other suggestions?
My pct will be the same as it was on Cynostane plus creatine, Muscle Pharm Assault or Hemo rage Ultra cons and Recreate from Usplabs. Whey protein, Arginine, Scivations Xtend, Now foods Adam and ZMA is always running.
Tbh lately I saw Androhard available in a European site. So now im thinking to change Activate Xtreme with Androhard for the last 3 weeks at 3 pills per day.
If I decide to do that what pct do you suggest?
I’m trying to plan it now and be ready. I have already Epi, lean xtreme, cycle assist and I’m preparing to do my last order with the rest. I want to succeed this time so please give me a hand.
 
Just my .02, but Epi is as useless as Cynostane. I'm on day 22 of Havoc and have not gained an ounce. My pocket book has sure gotten lighter, and the sup companies got richer, but this stuff is garbage. I have been 40 per day, 3000 + clean calories, and nothing. Oh some insomnia, but other than that a waste of time. No more PH's for me. Real deal or nothing.
 
Andromass for sure. Epistane isn't a bad choice for the stack either, it's dry and will balance out water retention.
 
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