Need Cycle building advice as well as target exercises to help lower back.

ToddSarnia

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Looking for some advice on setting up a cycle. I'm soon to be 53, it's been almost 20yrs since my last cycle. The reason I'm doing one now at my age is to build up my core body strength and fix the lack of muscle in my lower back. Being tied to a desk for the last 6 yrs I have lost the majority of my size and mass. I am doing a 16 wk cycle, during this time frame the doctor will do monthly blood work, as I am doing so with her full knowledge. I plan to do a Sustanon 250, mixed with Deca Durabolin and Dianabol Tabs. The progression of the cycle is 250 wk 1, with 2 wks at 500mg, then 2 wks at 750mg,then 5 wks at 1000mg, followed by 2 wks of 750mg, 2wks 500mg,1wk 250mg. Same cycle going to use Deca Durabolin 300 mg per wk with a step up going 300mg/ml for 2 wks, then 600mg/ml for 2wks, then 900mg/ml for 5wks, then 600mg/ml for 2 wks, then 300mg/ml for 3 wks. The D-Bol tabs are 20mg per day for 2wks, then 40 for 3 wks, then 60 for 5wks, the 40 mg for 3 wks, then 20 mg for 2 wks. The focal point being that 5 week stretch where the Sustanon 250 is maxed out, The Deca is close to max, D Bol is 60mg for 5 wks. What I can't recall is when to introduce the clomid and how much? I see different things on line, some contradictory.

If anyone can think of a good weight routine I can do to build up my broken lower back, I'am all ears Thanks much..
 
I would leave the deca and the dbol alone and I'd just run the testosterone a little higher 300-400mg and I would start there. You haven't been doing anything for 6 years and your diving head first into injuries, high blood pressure and unnecessary toxicity with the dbol. No need to complicate things. Maybe after 10-12 weeks on test, if my bloodwork was good, I'd throw 200mg of deca in there and ride that till gains taper off and drop back to trt. I'd skip the dbol all together.
 
Agree once again with Smont, that is a pretty hefty comeback cycle at 53 years old. I wouldn’t run that at my age (49) and I haven’t been out of the gym and cycling on and off for over 25 years….I would do test only, see how you react and what your results are and save the deca for a test/ deca run next year….orals for me have been intolerable after age 45. I feel like death after 2 weeks. Good luck and keep us updated
 
More then anything you should spend a couple months back in the gym. Anything structured is going to work. You might even wanna just do 1 exercises per body part and do a full body 3x week. It's a great way to get back I'm the gym. If you want some actual programs you could check out Renaissance periodization, or mountain dog. Both of those have a good selection of programs
 
Cycling as you get older becomes like drinking when you get older. What you could pull off 20 years ago and now are 2 very different things. 20 years ago I could drink all night, sleep for 3 hours, work my construction job, get off work hit gym, bang my girl twice and then watch a movie. Now I drink 2 drinks and it’s a 3 day recovery and I accomplish nothing….aging is a kick in the balls
 
Dblock said:
Cycling as you get older becomes like drinking when you get older. What you could pull off 20 years ago and now are 2 very different things. 20 years ago I could drink all night, sleep for 3 hours, work my construction job, get off work hit gym, bang my girl twice and then watch a movie. Now I drink 2 drinks and it’s a 3 day recovery and I accomplish nothing….aging is a kick in the balls
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Can't say it better than this! Getting old sucks!
 
Dblock said:
Cycling as you get older becomes like drinking when you get older. What you could pull off 20 years ago and now are 2 very different things. 20 years ago I could drink all night, sleep for 3 hours, work my construction job, get off work hit gym, bang my girl twice and then watch a movie. Now I drink 2 drinks and it’s a 3 day recovery and I accomplish nothing….aging is a kick in the balls
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That's a very good comparison. It's also why I tell ppl pick the drugs with the least or no side effects and just use more of those.

With a few rare exceptions everyone can handle a lot of testosterone as long as they manage estrogen and BP.

Pretty much everyone can handle masteron. I've seen plenty of ppl gun a gram of mast with no added issues. Some will say hair loss but honestly it's pretty hair safe. It's usually when someone is already blasting and they add mast and say hair loss, well, if your on 800 total mg and you add 600 more mg of mast then sure, but 600mg of anything might have did that. I've never seen someone swap out a drug for mast at equal mg and magically get hair loss. (Todd Lee mentions this quite often as well as a few others)

Eq would be a Honorable mention for me as it gives me no sides at all.

Just remember everyone is different.


The classic test, deca, dbol cycle is usually accompanied by acne, ED and and gyno/tit's.

Test eq and anavar or tbol is a good alternative for many ppl as well.

But regardless, there's never a reason to dive head first into 3 compounds, and it makes less sense after a 6 year break. I'm about to be 40 and I still start my cycles most of the time but doubling my trt dose and then adding things as needed. And the tail end of the cycle is usually when more gear is needed.

The diet will do more then the training program as well. If your diet is on point and you have some gear in the picture then any training will work as long As you're achieving some kind of progressive overload
 
Honestly if anything I feel doing too much of hormonal intervention is only going to have more negative effects than positive if you truly want to “fix your back”. That can mean so many things but if you haven’t been training the likelihood you’ll outstrip your ability to recover or find the right balance to improve issues there will only be exacerbated by too much use considering you’ll likely already have pretty quick returns of investment if you’ve trained much in the past.
 
Resolve10 said:
Honestly if anything I feel doing too much of hormonal intervention is only going to have more negative effects than positive if you truly want to “fix your back”. That can mean so many things but if you haven’t been training the likelihood you’ll outstrip your ability to recover or find the right balance to improve issues there will only be exacerbated by too much use considering you’ll likely already have pretty quick returns of investment if you’ve trained much in the past.
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There's a world of truth to this. More hormones, more strength, weak untrained muscles and connective tissues and we get injuries. I often hurt myself on cycle🤷‍♂️
 
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