Need a PCT Plan (1st Cycle)

[Davz808]

Aloha my names Daven I'm 31 5"11 and originally 183lbs now 205 after just 6 weeks of training, eatting right and taking test400 alone. Beinging it's my first cycle I'm only taking .5 every 3rd day. Planning on taking it another 6 weeks to complete a 12 week cycle. Was wondering what I should take for PCT, when I should start it and where I can order it from. Any help is much appreciated. Mahalo!

 

[booneman77]

What ester test are you running? Im assuming e or c? if so, start pct 2 weeks after your last pin.

Honestly, you should've thought about this BEFORE starting your cycle... what happens if somethign goes awry mid cycle and you have to stop? Totally screwed...

Pct:
Clomid 100/50/50/50
and/or Nolva 40/40/20/20
Reduce XT (cortisol control)
Natty test booster of choice (suggestions - pct assist, alphamax xt, bulk SNS bulbine or fadogia)
Natty anabolic of choice (suggestions - xgels (ArA), anabeta elite, magnitropin)

 

[Davz808]

What ester test are you running? Im assuming e or c? if so, start pct 2 weeks after your last pin.

Honestly, you should've thought about this BEFORE starting your cycle... what happens if somethign goes awry mid cycle and you have to stop? Totally screwed...

Pct:
Clomid 100/50/50/50
and/or Nolva 40/40/20/20
Reduce XT (cortisol control)
Natty test booster of choice (suggestions - pct assist, alphamax xt, bulk SNS bulbine or fadogia)
Natty anabolic of choice (suggestions - xgels (ArA), anabeta elite, magnitropin)

Thanks for the input bud. But I'm confused when u say something may go away mid cycle.. could u explain

 

[StanleyG]

What if say you were allergic to the ester of test you were taking and had an allergic reaction and had to stop taking it suddenly? What if an emergency arose and you had to fly somewhere for a couple weeks and needed to stop your cycle. There you would be with no PCT, totally shut down, miserable, unhealthy and in a panic.
You should always, ALWAYS have everything you need and even MAY need before you start your cycle. Never start a cycle again without having your pct compounds in hand.
PCT:
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20
There is an rc sponsor here whom I have used for my pct items on and off for several years, always with good results. If you like pm me and I will tell you whom.

 

[booneman77]

Thanks for the input bud. But I'm confused when u say something may go away mid cycle.. could u explain

not away... AWRY. as in go wrong... what happens if you get into a car wreck, or develop an abcess from pinning, or have to stop for whatever other random reason. Sometimes life just happens.

 

[Davz808]

not away... AWRY. as in go wrong... what happens if you get into a car wreck, or develop an abcess from pinning, or have to stop for whatever other random reason. Sometimes life just happens.

So what ur suggesting is I should have PCT always ready...

 

[booneman77]

So what ur suggesting is I should have PCT always ready...

you should always have your pct in hand BEFORE even getting your cycle. and 100% before you start it. You just never know what could stop a cycle and dont want to be caught scrambling for help, all the while developing awful sides and such.

 

[Davz808]

you should always have your pct in hand BEFORE even getting your cycle. and 100% before you start it. You just never know what could stop a cycle and dont want to be caught scrambling for help, all the while developing awful sides and such.

Very good suggestion. As u can tell I'm on my 1st cycle.. When u seperate the PCT meds into sections like this 50/100/100/100 for example are those mg per week for every day?

 

[StanleyG]

Geez buddy your almost lucky you dont have pct and have to ask these questions. Again all info you should know well before starting a cycle!!
I will, of course, let booneman77 speak for himself as far as answering your question but sheesh you really jumped in prematurely here IMO. I hope this goes well for you!

 

[Davz808]

Geez buddy your almost lucky you dont have pct and have to ask these questions. Again all info you should know well before starting a cycle!!
I will, of course, let booneman77 speak for himself as far as answering your question but sheesh you really jumped in prematurely here IMO. I hope this goes well for you!

Yeah my source has everything needed so I wasn't in a hurry to get my PCT before starting the cycle. I still got 6 weeks before this cycle ends. I understand what your saying tho. Always better to have it ready. So 2 weeks after my last shot I should start.. is comid good for PCT. Keep in mind I'm only taking .5 every 3 days for 12 weeks. Very low dosage. Really just wanted to see how my body would react to test400. My next cycle I'm planning on going with Eq and Sust...

 

[Davz808]

Yeah my source has everything needed so I wasn't in a hurry to get my PCT before starting the cycle. I still got 6 weeks before this cycle ends. I understand what your saying tho. Always better to have it ready. So 2 weeks after my last shot I should start.. is comid good for PCT. Keep in mind I'm only taking .5 every 3 days for 12 weeks. Very low dosage. Really just wanted to see how my body would react to test400. My next cycle I'm planning on going with Eq and Sust...

*Clomid

 

[booneman77]

Very good suggestion. As u can tell I'm on my 1st cycle.. When u seperate the PCT meds into sections like this 50/100/100/100 for example are those mg per week for every day?

100/50/50/50 would mean week 1, 100mg/day each day, week 2 50mg/day each day, etc etc

Yeah my source has everything needed so I wasn't in a hurry to get my PCT before starting the cycle. I still got 6 weeks before this cycle ends. I understand what your saying tho. Always better to have it ready. So 2 weeks after my last shot I should start.. is comid good for PCT. Keep in mind I'm only taking .5 every 3 days for 12 weeks. Very low dosage. Really just wanted to see how my body would react to test400. My next cycle I'm planning on going with Eq and Sust...

Clomid alone is fine. Some people like to stack both nolva and clomid but its def not necessary. One or the other will suffice.

0.5 what? mg?ml? that number doesn't mean anything ha. I'm assuming by the name test400, its 400mg/ml; which to me would mean 200mg/.5ml injection, roughly looking at 4-600mg/week (which is a perfect starter cycle).

 

[Davz808]

100/50/50/50 would mean week 1, 100mg/day each day, week 2 50mg/day each day, etc etc



Clomid alone is fine. Some people like to stack both nolva and clomid but its def not necessary. One or the other will suffice.

0.5 what? mg?ml? that number doesn't mean anything ha. I'm assuming by the name test400, its 400mg/ml; which to me would mean 200mg/.5ml injection, roughly looking at 4-600mg/week (which is a perfect starter cycle).

Yes u nailed it.

 

[booneman77]

Yes u nailed it. I appreciate u lots! Where can I go about getting some Clomid? And what dosages do u recommend with the cycle I'll be getting off of...

you can't ask for sources for illegal stuff on AM. Edit that post or you could be banned.

doses are as I stated above. 100/50/50/50

 

[Blergs]

I use sponsor here for years. NVM the BS, a good PCT is clomid and tamox/nolva for 4-5 weeks IMO.
also remember to have AI going and everything on hand before starting any cycle.
pm if you think i can help.

I rec stopping the AI as the pct starts

 

[Davz808]

I use sponsor here for years. NVM the BS, a good PCT is clomid and tamox/nolva for 4-5 weeks IMO.
also remember to have AI going and everything on hand before starting any cycle.
pm if you think i can help.

I rec stopping the AI as the pct starts

I'm not running any AI... Literally just .5 of Test400 every 3rd day. I'm already at 6 weeks into my cycle planning on going 12. Is it too late to start an AI? For my pCT I have Liquid Clomi and liquid nolva

 

[Blergs]

I'm not running any AI... Literally just .5 of Test400 every 3rd day. I'm already at 6 weeks into my cycle planning on going 12. Is it too late to start an AI? For my pCT I have Liquid Clomi and liquid nolva

test400 is 400mg per 1ml and most only use 400-500mg every week on their first cycle and many after ( even i go with only 500-700mg ew) so your still taking 400mg ew and will need an AI, you are taking about 3-4x the amount of test you would normally be producing. even people on hrt (only 100-200mg ew) need an AI at times.
an AI and controlling estrogen is more than just about gyno/tits, having high estrogen can cause alot of other issues than simple using a SERM on cycle WONT fix. mood, water retention, libido etc.
I highly rec you get AI dex and use 0.25mg eod. its not too late to start AI and i would rec it personally. you can get liquidex and use 0.5ml (0.25mg) eod.
sure you are not using 700mg + of test ew but anything over 200-250mg ew tends to need some sort of AI to keep estro in check. I would rec it.
what is your test400 made up of? whats the esters (should say on bottle) is it teste and testcyp? teste/cyp and prop? mostly prop? mostly enth? its likely teste/cyp and some prop maybe. just curious. but if its teste/testundec then you may need to wait longer to start pct for i to be optimal.

 

[Davz808]

test400 is 400mg per 1ml and most only use 400-500mg every week on their first cycle and many after ( even i go with only 500-700mg ew) so your still taking 400mg ew and will need an AI, you are taking about 3-4x the amount of test you would normally be producing. even people on hrt (only 100-200mg ew) need an AI at times.
an AI and controlling estrogen is more than just about gyno/tits, having high estrogen can cause alot of other issues than simple using a SERM on cycle WONT fix. mood, water retention, libido etc.
I highly rec you get AI dex and use 0.25mg eod. its not too late to start AI and i would rec it personally. you can get liquidex and use 0.5ml (0.25mg) eod.
sure you are not using 700mg + of test ew but anything over 200-250mg ew tends to need some sort of AI to keep estro in check. I would rec it.
what is your test400 made up of? whats the esters (should say on bottle) is it teste and testcyp? teste/cyp and prop? mostly prop? mostly enth? its likely teste/cyp and some prop maybe. just curious. but if its teste/testundec then you may need to wait longer to start pct for i to be optimal.

Thanks for all the advice! The test400 that I'm on has 25mg PROP, 188mg ENANTHATE & 187mg CYPIONATE. When do u recommend I start pct and at what dosages of liquid clomi and liquid nolva?

 

[Blergs]

Thanks for all the advice! The test400 that I'm on has 25mg PROP, 188mg ENANTHATE & 187mg CYPIONATE. When do u recommend I start pct and at what dosages of liquid clomi and liquid nolva?

your fine to start 2-3 weeks after last shot as if only teste or cyp, i was more worried if there was a slower ester in there but you are good. for pct i would rec 35-50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed for 4 to 5 weeks