Natty contest preparation using Diesel Products/ non sponsored

hairygrandpa

hairygrandpa

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I was not ask by the Diesel team to review this stack.

I'm prepping my 18yo son for the "Mister Universe Paraguay" contest in April.
The luck was on my side and I won a whole "natty cycle" from "Get Diesel Nutrition" for posting "chick-butt-pics" on this thread:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/279226-yoga-pants-procycle.html
LOL! Imagine that... posting butt pics pays for high quality supps! Hilarious! Thanks again Diesel Team!
As I'm not a natty lifter, I pass the stack on to my son who really needs it.
Before anyone objects to the notion that I'm prepping my son myself, while still struggling with my diet and having almost no clue how to do it, please note: Kiss my hairy azz, and lick it too!

Here the stack:

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Cjg bighulksmash thebigt rtmilburn alphagainz Clean gene ZOO jramoska SFreed CJNator HIT4ME wesb2387 Gutterpump Tank999 DennisTheDane Danes SpicedCider ryane87 Juicedeez utz BEAST73 Alpha1agreda LeanEngineer coltonwalker Brandinooooo Sparkss Studhorse blueline438 vujade Volvo140G Chuck Diesel Ag5000 lifted67 Cjg thebigt smith_69 FireTitan alphagainz Clean gene ZOO jramoska SFreed CJNator HIT4ME wesb2387 Gutterpump Tank999 DennisTheDane SpicedCider ryane87 Juicedeez utz BEAST73 Alpha1agreda LeanEngineer coltonwalker Brandinooooo Sparkss Studhorse blueline438 vujade Volvo140G Ag5000 lifted67 Jebrook halfhuman ChocolateClen justhere4comm matt8483 ryane87 nostrum420 Brandinooooo HIT4ME thebigt NewAgeMayan rtmilburn hairygrandpa DUbz86 kenpoengineer

If you are not in the TAG list, you are NOT invited! <----kidding! LOL

Here before pics of my son:

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He is currently bulking, trying to up his weight from 153lbs to 165lbs , as lean as possible.
 
It's the third day he is on the stack.

Today at the gym I saw him sitting in a corner and looking shaky.
He took 5 pills of Ready4War, the stim who came with the stack. It's the highest recommended dose and it shook him up. Two days ago he took 3 pills and complained that he didn't noticed any effect. LOL, now he knows it works!
It will be 3.5 pills next time :)

He is doing a strict HST routine and progresses very good! Will post some workouts later on.
 
I am in on this. I think I saw a photo of your wife...looks like everyone in your family is lean...well..except you. But I guess there is only so much food to go around ...so they have no choice but to be lean.

Lol, I know I am a jerk. You know I love ya though. Looking forward to this.

And who said you don't know what you are doing? Does anyone?
 
Mr. Natty & HST wouldn't miss this one. Thanks for the invite.
Looks to me at his age and his metabolism he needs to pound the protein and not worry about too many calories. Must be nice!
 
HIT4ME said:
I am in on this. I think I saw a photo of your wife...looks like everyone in your family is lean...well..except you. But I guess there is only so much food to go around ...so they have no choice but to be lean.

Lol, I know I am a jerk. You know I love ya though. Looking forward to this.

And who said you don't know what you are doing? Does anyone?
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loving it!
 
HIT4ME said:
I am in on this. I think I saw a photo of your wife...looks like everyone in your family is lean...well..except you. But I guess there is only so much food to go around ...so they have no choice but to be lean.

Lol, I know I am a jerk. You know I love ya though. Looking forward to this.

And who said you don't know what you are doing? Does anyone?
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LMAO. You have a keen eye! My family is genetically gifted, all are lean but me. It must be the genetic, I swear, LOL!
The prepping part, well, I got him so far, meaning I must do something right here. Besides, it's all about being part of the competition -not the winner. I bet all others are juiced up and the judges are corrupt beyond believe.

CJNator said:
Subd! Can't wait to see how these products work on him!
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Besides the Diesel stack, he only takes creatine and sometimes BCAA's. If we notice good gains, it must be the Diesel products.
Interesting for me too, as the general notion is that Test-Boosters do sh1t, well, let's see.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I was not ask by the Diesel team to review this stack.

I'm prepping my 18yo son for the "Mister Universe Paraguay" contest in April.
The luck was on my side and I won a whole "natty cycle" from "Get Diesel Nutrition" for posting "chick-butt-pics" on this thread:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/279226-yoga-pants-procycle.html
LOL! Imagine that... posting butt pics pays for high quality supps! Hilarious! Thanks again Diesel Team!
As I'm not a natty lifter, I pass the stack on to my son who really needs it.
Before anyone objects to the notion that I'm prepping my son myself, while still struggling with my diet and having almost no clue how to do it, please note: Kiss my hairy azz, and lick it too!

Here the stack:

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Cjg bighulksmash thebigt rtmilburn alphagainz Clean gene ZOO jramoska SFreed CJNator HIT4ME wesb2387 Gutterpump Tank999 DennisTheDane Danes SpicedCider ryane87 Juicedeez utz BEAST73 Alpha1agreda LeanEngineer coltonwalker Brandinooooo Sparkss Studhorse blueline438 vujade Volvo140G Chuck Diesel Ag5000 lifted67 Cjg thebigt smith_69 FireTitan alphagainz Clean gene ZOO jramoska SFreed CJNator HIT4ME wesb2387 Gutterpump Tank999 DennisTheDane SpicedCider ryane87 Juicedeez utz BEAST73 Alpha1agreda LeanEngineer coltonwalker Brandinooooo Sparkss Studhorse blueline438 vujade Volvo140G Ag5000 lifted67 Jebrook halfhuman ChocolateClen justhere4comm matt8483 ryane87 nostrum420 Brandinooooo HIT4ME thebigt NewAgeMayan rtmilburn hairygrandpa DUbz86 kenpoengineer

If you are not in the TAG list, you are NOT invited! <----kidding! LOL

Here before pics of my son:

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He is currently bulking, trying to up his weight from 153lbs to 165lbs , as lean as possible.
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:D in
 
I'm in! Jealous of you natty stack!
 
Thanks for the invite! Sorry I am late.
(lol) He took the max dose of the pre first off? Cray.

What are the labels on those three look like?

What HST programming?

He looks like he has a great base to work from, to be 18 again. Nah. Lucky to be alive, wouldn't want to tempt fate again. Ha.
Good luck on him!
 
He seems less hairy :D Sure he is your son :D !!! Ahh just kidding! BEst of luck to the beast! Subbed
 
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I got the exact same thing from the Ready 4 War tabs, nothing with 3 or 4 but 5 made me feel like ****.
 
Congrats on winning the bundle, and all the best to your son for the contest.

I might get slammed for this, but with Procycle containing DHEA and Preg, I can't say I would endorse him using that one in particular, but all the best regardless
 
justhere4comm said:
Thanks for the invite! Sorry I am late.
(lol) He took the max dose of the pre first off? Cray.

What are the labels on those three look like?


What HST programming?
He looks like he has a great base to work from, to be 18 again. Nah. Lucky to be alive, wouldn't want to tempt fate again. Ha.
Good luck on him!
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No, he took the first day 3 tabs -nothing felt, then 5 tabs.

Ready4War
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Raw Test
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The usual HST, 2 sets full body every workout day, upping weights constantly, rep range around 9-12, 4 times/week, 1 hour+.
Will post a workout soon.



DennisTheDane said:
He seems less hairy :D Sure he is your son :D !!! Ahh just kidding! BEst of luck to the beast! Subbed
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I know, will ask my wife if he is my son. :) Nah, if I do that, I get complete radio silence for a year. He is very hairy but blond, not that visible, this lucky fugger.
Already told him he has to shave at least the legs, and buy a speedo, lol. Mayor problem is, he does not know how to pose, cant flex lat -or chest...damn. Try to explain someone how to flex lats, not as easy!
 
hgp...as far as you training your son...bobby knight wasn't that great at PLAYING basketball, this is true for a good many famous coaches and trainers!!!
 
Jiigzz said:
Congrats on winning the bundle, and all the best to your son for the contest.

I might get slammed for this, but with Procycle containing DHEA and Preg, I can't say I would endorse him using that one in particular, but all the best regardless
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Jiigzz and I don't always "agree" - but I always think he brings up good points and we are often closer to agreeing than not. Having said that, this is worth noting and paying attention to; although I think in real-life terms, the body will just regulate production and it won't be the end of the world. I'd honestly be suprised if a natural test booster helped him at all, given his age. If I'm wrong, that will be impressive.

hairygrandpa said:
I know, will ask my wife if he is my son. :) Nah, if I do that, I get complete radio silence for a year. He is very hairy but blond, not that visible, this lucky fugger.
Already told him he has to shave at least the legs, and buy a speedo, lol. Mayor problem is, he does not know how to pose, cant flex lat -or chest...damn. Try to explain someone how to flex lats, not as easy!
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The guilty silence. Eh well. Sounds like you're over it. :)

Tell him to put his should blades in his back pockets. That should help him flex his lats.
 
Jiigzz said:
Congrats on winning the bundle, and all the best to your son for the contest.

I might get slammed for this, but with Procycle containing DHEA and Preg, I can't say I would endorse him using that one in particular, but all the best regardless
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You are right. But hey, the competition will almost certainly be juiced up. A little bit of DHEA and Preg in comparison with real gear, is like a sip of beer -compared to a bottle of tequila. :)

Keep in mind, it's a contest in Bananaland.
 
hairygrandpa said:
You are right. But hey, the competition will almost certainly be juiced up. A little bit of DHEA and Preg in comparison with real gear, is like a sip of beer -compared to a bottle of tequila. :)

Keep in mind, it's a contest in Bananaland.
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You are probably right in some ways - but I think either you or I are misinterpreting what he is saying - DHEA and Preg may have negative effects in some cases. It is a shotgun approach to hormones - sure DHEA CAN convert to testosterone - but it can also convert to a dozen other things that could be counter-productive, and may be likely to do so when testosterone is already high. At least if you take gear, you kind of know where it's gonna end up.


Maybe I am misunderstanding.
 
HIT4ME said:
You are probably right in some ways - but I think either you or I are misinterpreting what he is saying - DHEA and Preg may have negative effects in some cases. It is a shotgun approach to hormones - sure DHEA CAN convert to testosterone - but it can also convert to a dozen other things that could be counter-productive, and may be likely to do so when testosterone is already high. At least if you take gear, you kind of know where it's gonna end up.


Maybe I am misunderstanding.
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Ya but then 12.5mgs of both won't convert to anything in any significant amounts that would do any damage or good. That's is such a low amount
 
rtmilburn said:
Ya but then 12.5mgs of both won't convert to anything in any significant amounts that would do any damage or good. That's is such a low amount
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12.5mg is per pill....just saying!!! this is for the dtp...

the raw test on the other hand is 25mg of each per pill
 
thebigt said:
12.5mg is per pill....just saying!!! this is for the dtp...

the raw test on the other hand is 25mg of each per pill
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I know it was per pill however I didn't realize that raw also had dhea and preg let along at 25mg combined it MIGHT be high enough. However even with extreme doses it still only MIGHT do something bad. I wouldn't worry about it tbh.
 
rtmilburn said:
I know it was per pill however I didn't realize that raw also had dhea and preg let along at 25mg combined it MIGHT be high enough. However even with extreme doses it still only MIGHT do something bad. I wouldn't worry about it tbh.
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not saying it is bad..just pointing out that combined the dose of dhea/preg is significant...personally I loved this stack when ran it---but I am also 58!!!

do I think this stack would be harmful to hpg son...an empathic NO!!!

long term possibly...but not for a month run.
 
HIT4ME said:
You are probably right in some ways - but I think either you or I are misinterpreting what he is saying - DHEA and Preg may have negative effects in some cases. It is a shotgun approach to hormones - sure DHEA CAN convert to testosterone - but it can also convert to a dozen other things that could be counter-productive, and may be likely to do so when testosterone is already high. At least if you take gear, you kind of know where it's gonna end up.


Maybe I am misunderstanding.
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Yeah, that's where I was going with that more than anything.

But damn he is looking big at 18. Definitely keen to see some post pics when they go up. No doubt he'll make some good progress in that time.
 
HIT4ME said:
You are probably right in some ways - but I think either you or I are misinterpreting what he is saying - DHEA and Preg may have negative effects in some cases. It is a shotgun approach to hormones - sure DHEA CAN convert to testosterone - but it can also convert to a dozen other things that could be counter-productive, and may be likely to do so when testosterone is already high. At least if you take gear, you kind of know where it's gonna end up.


Maybe I am misunderstanding.
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Ah, sorry, got it wrong. Now I understand. Not sure what to think about the DHEA will read into this.

Overall main problem with HGP jr. is eating. Since 2 years ago I remind him DAILY to eat, especially good stuff like oats and meat. It's a constant struggle with him. If he finds in the fridge: pre cooked meat, slice of old pizza, boiled eggs, apples and pickles -and he has to chose 2 items, guess what he will grab...
Pickles and the old pizza.
I'm almost always mad at him for being such an idiot.
If you would see me in front of a PC watching videos, it's rather about: science, bodybuilding, rehab exercises, AM forum -if you don't see me I watch the same and a little porn.
If I see him in front of PC watching vids it's always either philosophy (no prob) -or gaming (you know, watching others playing games, ridiculous), never bodybuilding.
Argh, at his age I enlisted myself in the army and was already training martial arts for 6 years, without a dad.
Everything changed for the worse, how will such "puzzy generation" master the future? I have no clue.
 
Just curious, but will the DTP make any difference to an 18 year kid? Also what program is he running;)
 
Zariph said:
Just curious, but will the DTP make any difference to an 18 year kid? Also what program is he running;)
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He does HST 4x week, full body. We try to find out if DTP works for him, that's the point :) !
 
hairygrandpa said:
Overall main problem with HGP jr. is eating. Since 2 years ago I remind him DAILY to eat, especially good stuff like oats and meat. It's a constant struggle with him. If he finds in the fridge: pre cooked meat, slice of old pizza, boiled eggs, apples and pickles -and he has to chose 2 items, guess what he will grab...
Pickles and the old pizza.
I'm almost always mad at him for being such an idiot.
If you would see me in front of a PC watching videos, it's rather about: science, bodybuilding, rehab exercises, AM forum -if you don't see me I watch the same and a little porn.
If I see him in front of PC watching vids it's always either philosophy (no prob) -or gaming (you know, watching others playing games, ridiculous), never bodybuilding.
Argh, at his age I enlisted myself in the army and was already training martial arts for 6 years, without a dad.
Everything changed for the worse, how will such "puzzy generation" master the future? I have no clue.
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Sounds to me like you have yourself a normal 18 year old kid.
 
210LBS said:
Sounds to me like you have yourself a normal 18 year old kid.
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Was told that by many, still can't fathom this. The little sh1theads don't know how to plant a tree, what to eat -or cure their diseases. All they can do is install a new app in their smartphones. Like vampires, they don't go outside, "Oh the sun! Help, I'm melting!" Argh. And IF they go swimming they instantly have an ear infection -or complain because they were bitten by an insect.

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hairygrandpa said:
Ah, sorry, got it wrong. Now I understand. Not sure what to think about the DHEA will read into this.

Overall main problem with HGP jr. is eating. Since 2 years ago I remind him DAILY to eat, especially good stuff like oats and meat. It's a constant struggle with him. If he finds in the fridge: pre cooked meat, slice of old pizza, boiled eggs, apples and pickles -and he has to chose 2 items, guess what he will grab...
Pickles and the old pizza.
I'm almost always mad at him for being such an idiot.
If you would see me in front of a PC watching videos, it's rather about: science, bodybuilding, rehab exercises, AM forum -if you don't see me I watch the same and a little porn.
If I see him in front of PC watching vids it's always either philosophy (no prob) -or gaming (you know, watching others playing games, ridiculous), never bodybuilding.
Argh, at his age I enlisted myself in the army and was already training martial arts for 6 years, without a dad.
Everything changed for the worse, how will such "puzzy generation" master the future? I have no clue.
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Internet has come along way since when you were a kid. You prob would have been the same if you were born in this era, and he might have been more like you were if he were born in yours :)

the way it is now breeds laziness IMO, so im grateful my parents told me no more than 1 hr in front of a PC or gaming system per day. Meant I spent time outdoors and actually figuring stuff out.

Chuck him outside ;)
 
Son is still progressing well.

Took 3.5 pills of Ready4war, it's the sweet spot for him. Only downside he says is, it acts for too long. We train at night from 20.40 until 22.00hrs and he goes to bed around 02 pm. It causes insomnia until almost 06 pm.
It truly works but he would recommend it for morning workouts, should give an awesome boost for the gym and for the rest of the day.

It's day 5 on test boosters. I asked if he can feel anything, like libido boost, energy, aggression or strength increase. So far no noticeable effect. I expected this because it's way to early to tell.
 
To be honest I never really feel "on" kinda sucks to be honest but then again it's alright because I don't have to worry about aggression too much
 
ChocolateClen said:
To be honest I never really feel "on" kinda sucks to be honest but then again it's alright because I don't have to worry about aggression too much
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Same here, sort of.
Until now only NPP and oral Trest gave me this on-feeling with aggression and animalistic workouts. All other stuff, mostly orals make me feel sick.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Same here, sort of.
Until now only NPP and oral Trest gave me this on-feeling with aggression and animalistic workouts. All other stuff, mostly orals make me feel sick.
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I don't even feel "on" while on 500+ mg of test. I get more aggressive that I know but in general I just feel normal but pushing more weight and seeing more gains. I become a little bit more of a dick too but that's about it. I wish I felt what you all did
 
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