Natty anabolics epicat, ecdy, turk, uro etc

recompme

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So I've been trying a few natty muscle promoting supplements and I've been taking a brief look at some studies that I can get hold of. Alot of these supplements are reputed to help with muscle building if you work out and in the studies I come across the supplements are given to people who then workout. My question is surely if these supplements were true muscle builders then they'd switch on protein synthesis and pack on muscle without the working out. Instead it seems like they are gate keepers which debatebly open the muscle building 'gate' but don't actually do the muscle building. This got me thinking there must be some other body 'signal' switched on or off (off like myostatin) which says hey put muscle on. Does anybody have any clues about said additional signal? Other than saying yeah workout too. I'm not a crazy geek scientist so forgive the basicness. I expect there to be multiple pathways, just seems to be the way with the human body. Cheers
 
There's nothing that packs on muscle without working out and eating enough to grow, even steroids don't after the initial couple pounds. There's no shortage of 150lb guys on tren and anadrol at planet fitness.


But in general, the stuff your thinking about with all the pathways is what everyone's been thinking about for the last 50 years and the information is all out there.

The human body does not like to put on muscle because it doesn't really need to put on muscle it needs to be small and be able to run away fast and not need lots of food to survive. Muscle growth is something the large majority of people have to force with hard training lots of calories and good recovery principles
 
Mtor pathway
Mechanical tension is a pathway
Hormones like testosterone and IGF 1 and HGH pathways
Myostatin inhibitors are not really doing anything but eventually I'm sure there will be some. (Nasa and Astronauts are always looking into myostatin inhibitors) to preserve mass in space.
 
Top_Alpha said:
I'm quite fond of laxo and turk. Amazing drivers of muscle growth.
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I've not tried laxo, did try Turk and a Beta ecdy combo for abit, difficult what to make of it. For me it did have some good effects, certainly improved my stamina so I could push out more reps but couldn't really say if it boosted strength. Muscle building wise I'm on the fence for me in a slight calorie surplus along with a few cheat meal days (pizza, so big surplus days) it didn't seem to build me up more like lean me out. In that sense the only way I can see it building muscle is if you take it long term and make sure to take advantage of the extra reps. Realistically though there's cheaper stuff out there that can do that for me. I did also try a high strength beta ecdy supplement on its own too, really helped with stamina and libido! To the point where I was wondering if it is actually ecdy.
 
recompme said:
I've not tried laxo, did try Turk and a Beta ecdy combo for abit, difficult what to make of it. For me it did have some good effects, certainly improved my stamina so I could push out more reps but couldn't really say if it boosted strength. Muscle building wise I'm on the fence for me in a slight calorie surplus along with a few cheat meal days (pizza, so big surplus days) it didn't seem to build me up more like lean me out. In that sense the only way I can see it building muscle is if you take it long term and make sure to take advantage of the extra reps. Realistically though there's cheaper stuff out there that can do that for me. I did also try a high strength beta ecdy supplement on its own too, really helped with stamina and libido! To the point where I was wondering if it is actually ecdy.
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What brand was beta ecdy supplement?
 
Top_Alpha said:
What brand was beta ecdy supplement?
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The beta ecdy one is sold out and I'm UK based so might be difficult to get hold of abroad. It's an unknown brand fairly cheap, will pm you it if you like as I'm uneasy about mentioning the name here.
 
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