Good Ol' 3bHydroxy-Androst-5-Ene-17-One
Go for the M1D Black.
Natadrol leaned me down. Size and strength went up, but nothing "Steroid" like.
M1D Black haven't used yet, but I am using MMv3 which has the 3b-Hydroxy-androstane-17-one in it......strength gets retarded around the Week 3 mark, and size goes up pretty frequently, most users are getting around 7-9lbs in 4 weeks, im 4 weeks in, about 15lbs up. Though I am stacking it with TesTren!
Hope this helps and Happy Holidays!