Nanodrol Cycle Log

Juicedeez utz said:
The whole cramping thing was weird! I was on 100mcg clen and only got slight calf pumps when doing the stair master for 15 mins, this is the first thing to ever give me a serious pump/cramp in my back ever! Not even SD
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everybody reacts to things differently. I'm really surprised 100mcg clen only gave you slight calf pumps that would have me cramping like a mfer haha. yesterday I was getting slight back pumps just sitting down at work. couple grams taurine at night and this morning now I'm gtg
 
big_pete said:
everybody reacts to things differently. I'm really surprised 100mcg clen only gave you slight calf pumps that would have me cramping like a mfer haha. yesterday I was getting slight back pumps just sitting down at work. couple grams taurine at night and this morning now I'm gtg
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Taurine and drinking about 6l of water a day has always prevented any sort of cramps for me
 
Very lean dry gains like Stated. Not a massbulker but quality mass. Wouldn't recommend if you're not lean to start with
 
Ive been thinking about pulling the trigger and buying some ph's from predator. I usually go domestic though. Would everyone that's bought from them say they have good, somewhat stealthy shipping?
 
Studd123 said:
Ive been thinking about pulling the trigger and buying some ph's from predator. I usually go domestic though. Would everyone that's bought from them say they have good, somewhat stealthy shipping?
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There gtg. Just bought there nanodrol last week. I'd say there stealthy enough. Pull that trigger
 
One thing I would say is make sure you have liver care, tudca or udca above anything else. It's really important, can't stress that enough
 
Studd123 said:
Ive been thinking about pulling the trigger and buying some ph's from predator. I usually go domestic though. Would everyone that's bought from them say they have good, somewhat stealthy shipping?
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Definitely here id say but you can never be sure depending on what country. For example where I live they aren't allowed to open packages inside eu if they don't have a reason to. My guess would be if a dog smells cocain they'll open it but if not it goes by. If it's from Asia they have every right to open it anyways as far as I know.
 
solidsnake said:
One thing I would say is make sure you have liver care, tudca or udca above anything else. It's really important, can't stress that enough
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Safety first Of course but an healthy liver will be the least of your problems. There's an insane amount of medical pills and and of course alcohol being lived toxic and i have never heard anyone getting sick cause of the liver let alone from a month of prohormones. what's more worrying is cardiovascular health
 
Chados said:
Safety first Of course but an healthy liver will be the least of your problems. There's an insane amount of medical pills and and of course alcohol being lived toxic and i have never heard anyone getting sick cause of the liver let alone from a month of prohormones. what's more worrying is cardiovascular health
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Lol at this
 
Its the truth. I'm not saying not to use precaution. What I'm saying is that there are other things that will break way before the liver. The liver can actually work at 25% cant say that about other organs. There are not much studies on steroids due to people never admitting taking them, but ive personally never heard anyone dying due to liver toxicity from steroids have you?. I don't think steroids are more toxic to the liver then drinking heavily during the weekend.
 
Juicedeez utz said:
Lol at this
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Lol what? If it was that dangerous people would have died every week from steroids. What people normally die from is heart attacks which might be caused by steroids, since there aren't an enormous amount of science behind this since everyone denies taking it it cant be confirmed it's caused by steroids and not genetics or from natural causes
 
Lol at the fact you said you've "never heard of anyone getting sick cause of the liver" there is actually a ton of cases, it all effects people differently and some people get it bad. I'm not disagreeing with you on that the 3 biggies when it comes to steroids are heart, liver and prostate. Heart attacks are normally linked to bad cholesterol and BP issues, both a common side effect caused by steroids but can be kept under control with supervision. All steroids, especially methylated ones, 100% tax the liver though, always better to be safe than sorry.
 
Juicedeez utz said:
Lol at the fact you said you've "never heard of anyone getting sick cause of the liver" there is actually a ton of cases, it all effects people differently and some people get it bad. I'm not disagreeing with you on that the 3 biggies when it comes to steroids are heart, liver and prostate. Heart attacks are normally linked to bad cholesterol and BP issues, both a common side effect caused by steroids but can be kept under control with supervision. All steroids, especially methylated ones, 100% tax the liver though, always better to be safe than sorry.
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What I mean is liver disease caused my steroids. Alcohol is a far more common thing and people use it daily for 30 years without having liver failure. Sure it really does effect the liver but people using alcohol normally ends up with a stroke. I'm not questioning wether you should take care of yourself with everything you can but I think people overworrying about something that for a person with a healthy liver takes years and years of abuse to destroy and they miss the bigger picture. Clenbuterol as an example can be deadly for some people just after a few months. The liver repairs itself extremly well but other organs don't, you drink alcohol a weekend and your liver is clean after like two days. You have high blood pressure and even with medication it can stay high forever.
 
solidsnake said:
Chados have you ever taken a ph as strong as msten before? Just wondering..
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I have taken nanodrol, superdrol,epistane, I don't even remember all the names but trenavar I believe, there's more but I can't really remember all the names liquidtren I think one is called. Trust me I'm not exactly New to this. What I can tell you guaranteed is that nobody with a healthy liver will even notice one month of a ph at a normal dose. Your liver will not have any problems cleaning that up. Why you should take care of your liver is because it's still a very important organ and you dont wanna stress any organ because you need it to maybe even 100 years. All I'm saying is that people are so scared about the liver and when they take a needle they think they're safe. The liver is the absolute last thing im scared off. If I was drinking a liter vodka every weekend we have a big problem. I personally dont do phs anymore and definitely not without test.
 
solidsnake said:
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Dude you have to understand that there are like a billion unknown steroid users. Many will get liver disease, heart disease etc but they can never establish where it comes from. Some steroids are used as Medicin. When you overdose something and you dont take a break, maybe you mix it with alcohol there's always a chance. There's one guy with liver toxixity so what does this mean? A lot of famous people have died from heart disease believed to be linked to steroids. This is the major problem and you won't find statistics even here because we just dont know where it comes from since most people will deny ever taking. Also mostly people are not on gear when it happens, it happen later in life. The liver will repair but the heart won't. If you plan on taking steroids your whole life you Better protect yourself. If you do one ph cycle you're more likely to die from alcohol.


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What you say is true but..! YOU have to realise that as juicedeez mentioned and the pubmed article shows, it affects people in different ways, life is a lottery. What if it just happens to be you that it doesn't agree with and you end up fuk3d up?! Tudca/udca are the best compounds to use to help you not end up like that, that's all I was saying. No scaremongering but if your gonna go with the big boys it's best to play it safe and not use a cheap cycle support with underdosed and useless compounds. Yes we all know there's thousands using steroids and prohormones and most of the time people are fine and recover well... but sometimes that just ain't the case. Best be safe rather than sorry whilst typing your argumentative points next to your diálisis machine... now let's end it there, you wouldn't want to end up like you did on that anavar thread would you now?
 
solidsnake said:
What you say is true but..! YOU have to realise that as juicedeez mentioned and the pubmed article shows, it affects people in different ways, life is a lottery. What if it just happens to be you that it doesn't agree with and you end up fuk3d up?! Tudca/udca are the best compounds to use to help you not end up like that, that's all I was saying. No scaremongering but if your gonna go with the big boys it's best to play it safe and not use a cheap cycle support with underdosed and useless compounds. Yes we all know there's thousands using steroids and prohormones and most of the time people are fine and recover well... but sometimes that just ain't the case. Best be safe rather than sorry whilst typing your argumentative points next to your diálisis machine... now let's end it there, you wouldn't want to end up like you did on that anavar thread would you now?
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Haha I think I proved my point there. I never questioned anything. I was just making sure possibly new guys know that all this liver talk is actually not the only thing you should worry about. Yes we are all different thats why I'm saying a healthy liver will easily control a medication dose. There are things we take daily that are far more dangerous to us like pharmacy head ache pills. We for some reason believe that (one) cycle will really hurt our liver. Many of these things are medication and then aren't suppose to kill you but to help you. Nobody with any heart disease or liver disease should take steroids period. What we should worry about is people overdosing steroids, that's exactly like overdosing any medication due to tolerance. I will never go as high as any pro bodybuilder for two reason, one being health and two I just don't like that look and I don't wanna weight 300 pounds. I have used steroids in both low and high doses and I'm happy I can control this. I never exceed 500 mg of test as an example. Most people don't overuse alcohol or pills for headache but steroids are easy to because it's not just mental but visual.
 
Once again some people DO get a damaged liver from one heavy cycle due to not looking after them selves. Not disagreeing with you on the fact people use way too much but some people are just susceptible to damage over others. Stop comparing steroids to alcohol, I'd have to drink a substantial amount for 5-10years everyday to see significant damage but probably 10-12 weeks of winstrol would put my liver values through the roof and affect neutrapina
 
The liver damage is real for sure but I do think it's over exaggerated allot. Some peoples livers get damaged easier then others but most of us can handle it with ease.
 
big_pete said:
The liver damage is real for sure but I do think it's over exaggerated allot. Some peoples livers get damaged easier then others but most of us can handle it with ease.
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I've had liver issues in the past but Kingsguard has been a blessing for me during my last run with DMZ & M-sten.
 
Can anyone answer a question I have regarding a future nanodrol/LGD cycle I have planned please? I was going to use nanodrol for 4 weeks followed by LGD for 8. The question is once I stop the nanodrol and start the LGD will there be a lag time before the LGD kicks in? I hear it takes 3 weeks or so for SARMs to kick in and start to work. Will I possibly have 3 weeks of stalled gains? Thanks is in advance
 
I'd start them both at once. When the msten finishes the lgd should be kicking in nicely.
Is it 3303 or 4033 bro?
 
solidsnake said:
I'd start them both at once. When the msten finishes the lgd should be kicking in nicely.
Is it 3303 or 4033 bro?
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Thanks for your input. 4033 mate. I was going to do 12mg (OL). Do u think it would be ok to start at 4 for 2 weeks then bump to 8 for 2 weeks? I know Msten is hard in the body and I would rather not overwhelm it.
 
Vikingbro said:
Can anyone answer a question I have regarding a future nanodrol/LGD cycle I have planned please? I was going to use nanodrol for 4 weeks followed by LGD for 8. The question is once I stop the nanodrol and start the LGD will there be a lag time before the LGD kicks in? I hear it takes 3 weeks or so for SARMs to kick in and start to work. Will I possibly have 3 weeks of stalled gains? Thanks is in advance
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I've got no experience with sarms, but I'd recommend starting them both at the same time. The extra 4 weeks following the nanodrol should even help solidify the nanodrol gains the way I see it
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I've got no experience with sarms, but I'd recommend starting them both at the same time. The extra 4 weeks following the nanodrol should even help solidify the nanodrol gains the way I see it
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Yes I will be doing this, especially as it takes 3 weeks or so for the LGD To kick in. I don't want any lag time between the Msten and LGD.
 
Vikingbro said:
Yes I will be doing this, especially as it takes 3 weeks or so for the LGD To kick in. I don't want any lag time between the Msten and LGD.
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I'm personally a quick responder to methylated ds/ph. On both epistane and nanodrol, I noticed increases in strength and endurance within the first few days. Best of luck with your cycle man!
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I'm personally a quick responder to methylated ds/ph. On both epistane and nanodrol, I noticed increases in strength and endurance within the first few days. Best of luck with your cycle man!
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Thanks mate and for your advice. I may hit u up when I start for advice as I've seen your logs and know u have more experience with it if that's ok?
 
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