NA R-ALA, better to empty, or full stomach?

bb333

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Some brands recommend taking it to full stomach with so much water, others on an empty stomach before a meal.
What's the difference?
 
It's best taken on an empty stomach about 30 minutes before a carb heavy meal. That way it can be fully absorbed and taken up into the sytsem so that when the glucose enters the bloodstream the NA-R-ALA can take it straight back out (GDA) and shuttle it away from the fat stores and into the lean tissues (Organs and Muscles).
 
Na ala of SAN nutrition, is doing miracles on me.
200mg a day fast as fast as fast.
day on 380gr carbohydrates, day off 250gr.

And when I hear, no problems.

Together I take, enzymes + acetyl carnitine.
In short I would like to add 3gr of omega 3 per day.

At recomp level I find it great.
 
It doesn't matter. Either or, right before first meal, or right before another meal. NA-R-ala still works really well for lowering blood sugar, its my favorite glucose mimetic supplement , because its 10-30 times more powerful than alpha lipoic acid, and it has some potent anti-oxidant benefits.
 
Slims said:
It's best taken on an empty stomach about 30 minutes before a carb heavy meal. That way it can be fully absorbed and taken up into the sytsem so that when the glucose enters the bloodstream the NA-R-ALA can take it straight back out (GDA) and shuttle it away from the fat stores and into the lean tissues (Organs and Muscles).
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I dont recall it having much muscle selectivity aspects to it, other than creating an insulin sensitive environment, which in the opposite realm of things (insulin resistance) is related to fat. doesn't change that its an awesome ingredient though.
 
squirtguns89 said:
I dont recall it having much muscle selectivity aspects to it, other than creating an insulin sensitive environment, which in the opposite realm of things (insulin resistance) is related to fat. doesn't change that its an awesome ingredient though.
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Yep, it sensitizes muscle and fat cells indiscriminently
 
bosskardo said:
not useless at all. Just be sure not to take too much, might drop blood sugar too low.

edit: completelly estimating of the top of my head but maybe 200mg for 50g carbs.
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I think about 150mg per 30-50g carbs. Also, the faster your insulin spike the sooner you'd want to take it. So for complex carbs with moderate protein and fat 15 minutes pre is probably okay. For a higher glycemic load carb with and/or less fat/protein 30 minutes plus would be better.
 
In the guide of Examine.com "insulin sensitivity & glucose uptake", there is no na-r-ala, it seems strange!
I found it present, the zinco, Myo-inositol, Creatine, Berberine, Cinnamon.
Isoleucine, Salacia and Corosolic Acid ( Unproven options).

It sounds weird that we have not added it na-r-ala.
 
Slims said:
If NA-R-ALA stimulates both muscle and fat cells, is there anything that can stimulate/sensitize just the lean/muscle tissues?
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Metformin, which is probably out of the question for most. I believe there is some research stating that agmatine and berberine sensitize muscle moreso? Not 100%
 
danielmoo said:
Metformin, which is probably out of the question for most. I believe there is some research stating that agmatine and berberine sensitize muscle moreso? Not 100%
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Show me data on anything in that post, outside of agmatine theoretical selectivity, they all activate ampk and increase glut4 expression in peripheral tissues. I have seen metformin blocks some glucose uptake from digestive tract but that has nothing to do with selectivity of skeletal tissue
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Show me data on anything in that post, outside of agmatine theoretical selectivity, they all activate ampk and increase glut4 expression in peripheral tissues. I have seen metformin blocks some glucose uptake from digestive tract but that has nothing to do with selectivity of skeletal tissue
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That's just what it is, theoretical selectivity. I'm not stating anything is 100% in that post and I'm trying to find the thread that showed the studies right now. I believe kbayne is who had posted this information as well as berberine being less helpful to those interested in hypertrophy.
 
Hi guys, I resume this discussion for another question. For the next month, I take a break from PREDATOR, so I bought 2 cans of NA-R-ALA from SAN.
I wanted to try 300mg a day. Are you advised to take it? 300mg before breakfast or after breakfast? has a long emvita? I take most of the carbohydrates for lunch, and after training.
What do you recommend?
 
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