my standalone IGF cycle

dynomite

dynomite

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i have wanted to experiment with igf for about a year now and i finally feel comfortable with it thanks to the people on this board and on other boards.

i recieved my igf from a very trusted source around here and other boards.

my age is 24 and i have been playing a sport for a college and have not been hitting the weights too heavily lately but i am honestly in some of the best shape of my life. the reason for my age is because i was in the marines before i started college. unfortunately i was cut from the team last week and that was actually my motivation to go ahead with this igf cycle.

my weight is around 180 lbs right when i wake up in the morning. my body fat is low, probably around 8%. i will get more accurate measurements on the day my cycle begins.

i can not give accurate weights to my major lifts as i said i have not been going heavy on the weights lately. but i will post my lifts the very first week back in the weight room.

part of my thought process for starting my cycle right when i get back into the weight room is because i always feel my muscles being obliterated when i come back from a layoff. i feel the more damage i cause from my workout, the more possible hyperlapsi i can induce.

i will be starting out with 40 mcgs dosages on monday and thursday injected subq. my first injection will be on monday.

i hope this log can help a few just like other's logs helped me. if you have any questions please ask and i will be happy to answer. criticism is appreciated.
 
my goals are to put on some lean mass. and also to recover from some nagging injuries that i have. nothing big just some strains and pulls.

i have heard so many different things in terms of how igf affects each individual so i cant say how much mass i expect to gain but i am hoping for a good amount so i will be eating a ton. i will let you know how this affects my body comp.
 
IGF will not put a ton of mass on you. It may help in the inury department but HGH is the king in that department. If you haven't already read some of the stickies in the IGF section of the board. You may want to go IM and EOD.
 
i have read all the stickies including lake's as well as lots of info on this board and other boards. i like his thoughts on the e3d injections. i am not really in a serious hurry to pack on the mass and i am not big on potentially wasting product due to downregulation of receptors so i will stick with the mon and thu injections. the im vs subQ was something i was debating. the reason that i am leaning towards the subq injections is because i have a friend that did hgh and injected subq and had incredible results. i realize that hgh and igf are not the same thing but still the igf is what exerts many of the effects of hgh. i also realize that people are more or less experimenting with this peptide (some more than others) and that is what i intend to do as well. so at this point i plan on experimenting with the subq injections. if you have any input i would greatly appreciate it.

as far as the weight gain i have heard various reports with alot saying that they gained a few pounds while shedding fat. i was actually hoping for that but i am really gonna hit the weights and food as hard as i possibly can and try to gain more than what is typically reported. as i said i am more or less experimenting and i feel that as long as i am being safe then that is the most important thing to me. results are a very very close second because i wouldnt even do this if results were not possible.

any thoughts?
 
and away we go

gentlemen, i said that i was going to start my cycle on monday the 30th of october but i just couldnt wait. once i saw that package in the mail i just got all giddy and could not help but start my cycle a little bit early. so i actually started my cycle on thursday the 26 of october.

i gave myself a few days to examine how the dosage affected me before i decided to give my feedback on here.

DAY 1: well all i can say is that i have never taken anything like this before. this stuff is for real. i had a great workout hitting my chest and back and then injected 40 mcgs subq. i didnt notice any immediate effects but after a little time i did begin to notice a diaretic effect. i was taking frequent trips to the bathroom for both my bladder and my bowels. i was thirsty too and drank alot of water. i also noticed a hypoglycemic feeling and i really started pounding the carbs and protein but i could not get it to go away enirely. nothing else to report the rest of the day.


DAY 2: the next day i woke up tired. i was tired all freaking day. also the hypoglycemic feeling was very strong. i think the tiredness and hypoglycemic feeling went hand in hand. i did not even workout i was just so tired. i just ate and drank as much as i possibly could. and slept like a baby that night. in the future i am going to make sure that i allow at least 9 hours of sleep for myself the night of an injection.

DAY 3: the next day i did not notice anymore effects that i could feel, however i can honestly look at my body and see a difference already. i am slightly more vascular(very slighty) but i really believe that the diaretic effects have cause me to be a little more shredded. but not only that i believe that my muscle bellies are looking fuller too. obviously my cells were just being ramrodded with nutrients because of the igf.

DAY 4: nothing significant to report

nothing else to report unless someone has a question. my next injection is on day 5 which is monday the 30th. i will report a few days after that injection as well but i will be around to answer any questions if anyone has one until then.
 
you have accurate measurments yet? I'd like to see what your guesstimate 8% turns out to be..

IGF leans me out more than it puts on size.
 
Ubiquitous said:
you have accurate measurments yet? I'd like to see what your guesstimate 8% turns out to be..

IGF leans me out more than it puts on size.
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i will post my weight on monday/tomorrow and i will also post starting pictures. i will post pictures throughout my cycle to gauge my progress.
 
alright i got my scale today but i am going to measure myself tomorrow morning right when i wake up. the scale also measures bodyfat and while i am not sure how accurate it is, it will at least be able to tell me if my body fat goes up or down and by what percentages.

took my second injection today, i will update in a couple days on that.
 
i got my measurements today. my dry weight right when i wake up in the morning (after my piss) is 182. the scale told me i am 15% percent bodyfat which i dont think is accurate but whatever i will got with it just to see if my bodyfat % goes up or down.

weight 182
bf% 15

day 5: had a good workout and then injection postworkout with a muscle milk and oatmeal milkshake postworkout. i scarfed down a bunch more food definetely not clean but alot. here is how my diet would look like on a typical day of my eating habits since i have been on cycle.

breakfast: musclemilk and oatmeal milkshake
3 hours later: chickfile chicken sandwhich with fries and soda
3 hours later: double cheeseburger (not fast food)
3 hours later: postworkout shake
3 hours later: chile and a glass of milk
3 hours later: skillet sensation

there is snacking going on as well that i did not count in this simple breakdown.
 
Throw some buffalo and sweet potatoes in there. Ok, maybe not the buffalo but some sweet potatoes. Skillet Sensation, isn't that George Foreman? I am the undisputed Heavyweight Skillet Sensation of the Wooooooooooorld! Ok, I'll shut up now.
 
skillet sensations are by stouffers, and they are freakin good. they come in a bag in the frozen foods. each bag is 2 servings with about 30 grams of protein in each serving. they are delicious and fast but got a lot of sodium.
 
ok here is my update on day 5 and 6

day 5: worked chest and tris and injected 40 mcgs subq. felt great and i can see a difference in my body. it just looks good like my shoulders are getting pumped up a little more and more shredded. this is only slightly though as i have only been on cycle for 5 days. i could feel i slight twinge of discomfort in my abdomen. i am thinking this is the igf binding the to the receptors in my abdomen.

day 6: i woke up this morning after a good nights sleep. i have begun to notice that i am experiencing pain on the cartalidge in my left ear. it also feels swolen. i dont know if this is connected the the igf but i will be observing my ear closely as the cycle goes on to see if the ear swells after injections or what. also i feel discomfort in my lower abdomen. same scenario as the ear. i am not sure if the igf is connected but i will watch this closely and if it continues then i will be switching to IM injections and then if it still continues i will lower the dosage. so far i am liking the mon/thur injections because i can feel the injections. thats all to report now folks. later

ps: i am working out consistently and i will only mention a workout if i miss it for some reason.
 
I don't understand why you pin sub-Q. The abdominal and ear manifestations are a direct consequence of pinning sub-Q. Why not go IM in the muscle trained?
 
Sub-Q....NEAR ABDOMINAL area.....NOPE.....NOPE....NOPE!!at least not this CRAZY OLD MAN...GRUNT
you are the "man"!!

"DYNOMITE "....Just do a little more research...listen to "GRUNT"...This is not HGH.....ageless
 
first off ageless, you are a badass and i hope to look like you one day. however i would appreciate it if the "you should do more research" comments were kept out of this thread. i know what the risks were of shooting it subq and yes i know it went against grunts gospel but i made an informed decision and used deductive reasoning. if it doesnt work out then hey, it doesnt work out but at least my thread was informative. i would like to keep this log of good quality so it can help people, so lets keep the infamous "you should do more research" line at bay.

i do welcome constructive input very very much though

also i got a tumor tracer about 3 months ago so i am comfortable knowing i dont have a tumor. i recommend everyone does that before there igf cycle.

i will update my log later today. laters
 
dynomite said:
the im vs subQ was something i was debating. the reason that i am leaning towards the subq injections is because i have a friend that did hgh and injected subq and had incredible results. i realize that hgh and igf are not the same thing but still the igf is what exerts many of the effects of hgh. i also realize that people are more or less experimenting with this peptide (some more than others) and that is what i intend to do as well. so at this point i plan on experimenting with the subq injections. if you have any input i would greatly appreciate it.
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"dynomite - Thanks for the respect and the long reply... (no flame intended) only great concern.

Just a simple "Thanks" would have been appreciated....

If you have your mind set on doing sub-q abdominal area - thanks for keeping a detailed log.

No doubt about it - you are BOLD! and I am OLD.

Im thinking in this experiment I would rather be old....BOLD...been there done that!

I do hope your experiment works for you....

In any case, history will show you have alot of guts man.:jaw:
 
lol no pun intended right? well i am only 2 injections into my first cycle of igf so i wouldnt start comparing my gut to ronnie colemans just yet. i am keeping close observations on everything i experience from this and definetely i will keep everyones input in mind. i actually think i am going to go with the IM injection tomorrow and see how that feels. i appreciate your input man.
 
Dynomite - I can tell you I normally read this board way more than I post.

In this case I got involved for a few personal reasons - YOU!! Age 24, sports, college and once a Marine always a Marine.

You were cut from the team...that did not discourage you, you are striving to become "the best you can be" (its obvious you have drive)

I envy your youth...dont get me wrong - I have lived a "helluva life" and still kickin'.

Im old...but not a has been...I guess you gotta be something before you can be a has been LOL.

My son is 38 now and currently a Marine Recruiter. (looking for a few good men) You remind me alot of him.

You have a long road ahead of you...go slow, look both ways, and never waste the gift of youth. Just be careful!

And remember, Dynomite is powerful, just watch out for that short fuse!!

AGELESS
 
dynomite said:
the scale told me i am 15% percent bodyfat which i dont think is accurate but whatever i will got with it just to see if my bodyfat % goes up or down.

weight 182
bf% 15
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The BF scales are definitely NOT accurate if you are muscular or athletic. I have a BF scale made by Tanita (supposedly a leader in the segment) and it consistently calculates my BF as ~8% above the actual BF (as determined by calipers and supported by handheld BF analyzers).

If your BF scale is anything like mine and if you're already fairly muscular, a reading of 15% probably means that you're actually around 8-10%, making your guess pretty good.
 
okay i took my 3rd injection thursday IM in both shoulders. it was completely painless. i did not feel the feeling of hypoglycemia like i did with the subQ shots. i am not sure if i like that or not. however this week i have recieved a number of compliments on my arms shoulders and back. my chest feels neglected :-(. and my muscles feel harder than they do when i am clean. i just look great and i feel great too. my mind is clear and my vision just looks crisp and clean like i am less hazy or something. i can definetely see a difference in my body. i stepped on the scale again yesterday and my scale said that i was 9% but then i stepped on it today and it said i was 13% so i dont think the scale is goingto be able to provide me accurate info on my bf adjustments.
 
dynomite, stay with the IM injections. You will benefit from it in weeks to come. Feel hypo?, that's a good thing. Eat like a horse,and grow like an Ox. You are already getting compliments, good for you. Keep on rollin baby.:bb2:
 
my weight is 180.2. so i have dropped a little weight. honesty i can not feel that much from the product now. i will continue on and hope for the best.
 
This is a great thread dynomite...please keep us posted. I have some IGF on order myelf and amquite interested in your feedback...thanx bro
 
you guys who are interested in IGF must realize that the results are not eye opening... they are subtle quality changes in either recomp, or fractions of inches gained in certain parts... not to mention the healing that can take place. People expect so much and in turn become let down due to all the hype.

I enjoy IGF, but I know what to expect from it.
 
media grade igf is just ok. and most companies sell crap quality media grade. you guys who have yet to try recepter grade go for that and you'll most likely change your opinion about igf
 
800mrunner said:
media grade igf is just ok. and most companies sell crap quality media grade. you guys who have yet to try recepter grade go for that and you'll most likely change your opinion about igf
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How did you like receptor grade? Do tell.
 
ok so time for an update. i tried the IM injections and although i greatly appreciate everyones advice on here i think i am going to try the subq shots for a couple more times beginning monday. the reason being that i simply just dont feel the product when shooting IM. the pumps arent the same, the clear mentality is not the same and the hypoglycemic feeling is not there either. so i have my flame proof suit on but my next injection will be subq. tell you guys about it in a couple of days.
 
alright time for an update. injected subq on monday and took time to analyze the effects. there is no doubt about it that i like the subq injections better. my muscles look fuller and i can feel the igf. my sleep is absolutely great with some pretty wild dreams. i seem to be recovering very fast from my workouts. i notice the positive effects are much more present after the subq injections compared to the IM injections. honestly i did not notice anything at all really with the IM injections and that did not seem right to me.

i actually injected subq just above my knees on leg day and my legs recovered extremly fast. i have a friend that plays pro baseball not in the majors but he has tons of friends in the big leagues that he has played with at some point and he said that they all shoot GH subq. this guy is around this constantly as this is part of the pro baseball lifestyle(believe it or not) and i highly respect his opinions on this subject. of course he is refering to gh not igf but i still plan on administering it in a similar fashion. ill keep the updates coming about twice a week as usual unless someone has got a question or comment. later
 
not sure but i did not notice faster recovery in the muscle injected compared to subq injections. so i doubt it. plus there are lots of good things that igf does in the body. this is my first cycle and so my gut is not gonna blow up to the size of ronnie colemans. i just make sure that i annialate the muscle i am working that day and then shoot. if the intestinal wall was such i magnet for igf then we would all have ever growing guts because we all have igf in our bloodstream. there are many receptors there but i believe it has been overstated how much of the igf will go straight to the gut. my friend is very experinced with gh and so are many of his professional athlete friends and none of them have gh guts. does anyone realize how much juice and gh ronnie coleman does???? i am not worried about looking like him.
 
Nope

dynomite said:
not sure but i did not notice faster recovery in the muscle injected compared to subq injections. so i doubt it. plus there are lots of good things that igf does in the body. this is my first cycle and so my gut is not gonna blow up to the size of ronnie colemans. i just make sure that i annialate the muscle i am working that day and then shoot. if the intestinal wall was such i magnet for igf then we would all have ever growing guts because we all have igf in our bloodstream. there are many receptors there but i believe it has been overstated how much of the igf will go straight to the gut. my friend is very experinced with gh and so are many of his professional athlete friends and none of them have gh guts. does anyone realize how much juice and gh ronnie coleman does???? i am not worried about looking like him.
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There is NO reason sub Q would yield different results than IM. NONE. I have done both with no visible differences.
 
well i suppose i shall give an update. i really have not been updating as frequently as i thought i would but thats because the effects of this are subtle and i really did not have much to report on. however i would like to say that i have put on a few pounds(3) and i feel tight, tight like a tiger jk. i am very happy with gaining 3 pounds of quality mass and probably more because i seem a bit leaner too. anyway i can see a difference in my body and people have been making those jokes with me that you would make with a big guy. and just asking me where i workout more and stuff like that. i feel great but one effect i have noticed is that if there was a national sleeping competition i could probably win it. i will keep coming with the updates just not that frequently because it seems that i did not really put on any weight until i was about 3-4 weeks into the cycle. ill keep this log going for a while even after my cycle ceases.
 
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