sonny4753
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All right everyone, well I messed with my math during a 4 week pulse of Mdrol, but in a real short manner here are my results.
I counted wrong (yes I have 2 science degrees and obviously am still a moe-ran when it comes to math LOL), and ended up dosing this way:
week 1 - MWF - 1 cap 10 mg (1 pre and 1 post)
week 2 - MWF - 2 caps 20 mg (bumped it to 30 mgs on Wed, so basically 30 mg for a week and a half)
Week 3 - MWF - 3 caps 30 mg (2 pre workout 1 post workout)
week 4 - MWF - 4 caps 40 mg (3 pre workout 1 post workout)
Weeks 1, 2, and part of 3 were fine. Half way into week three I experience moment where I had tightness in my chest and shortness of breath while food shopping about an hour after a very intense lifting session. Came and went VERY quickly so it wasn't something that stopped me.
Week 4 was tough, had a pale stool at the end of the week which is when I realized I had screwed up. I then recounted my dosing and realized my major error, then stopped that Friday with my last dose. I was just so freaking busy with school, work, and gf that I didn't even think about it, just had everything lined up and counted out and in daily packets. So much for organized LOL.
Also week 4 my boys were gone, I'm pretty big normally and it was like my body sucked them back up, was a little freaked out by that, also libido was GONE.
OK so side effects:
Weeks 1 - 2 very little, my joints started hating me towards the end of week 2, so I upped my taurine intake.
Week 3 started experiencing lethargy, and my scoliosis was starting to get worse pain-wise (I have a slight scoliosis where my spine meets my pelvis and when it flares up it aggravates the main nerve going down my right leg.)
Week 4 extreme lethargy, one pale stool on that thursday, and 2 incidents of extreme hypoglycemic shock, had to stop everything I was doing and eat 40-60 gms of carbs to restore my normal functions, that was the scariest of all things.
Positive Side:
All lifts went through the roof, not going into great detail but just to give you an idea:
Incline Bench normal: 225 6x
Mdrol Induced Incline Bench: 255 8x
Bench Press normal 225 test: 10-11x
Bench Press Mdrol 225 test: 17x (unreal record for me)
TBar Row Normal: 135 8-9X
Tbar Row Mdrol: 180 8x 3 sets! (for me that is a lot).
Just an idea of the potency of this stuff.
Body Stats:
6' 209lbs 12.5% bf, ended up at 223lbs didn't get a bf reading afterwards, so I f'd up there. Still I gained quite an impressive amount and yes everyone I know was like DUDE wtf are you on? I looked insane, and actually felt pretty freaking good.
Supplements:
On off days I took 2000 mg of NAC in the morning, 3 caps 6-oxo at night.
Everyday: Hawthorne berry, serving of prostate support by NOW, 40-50 Grams of BCAAs throughout the day, 2-3 grams of Vitamin C, 1 multi-v without iron, 2 3 gram servings of Arginine (1 preworkout and 1 before bed), ergopharm Nox without caffeine, 2 tall coffees a day one in the AM and one pre workout (no milk), and I took super cissus 2 caps in the AM and 2 caps in the PM for my joints, plus 1-2 grams of taurine pre workout.
Kitchen sink approach????
PCT Information:
Continued with all the above supps, with the addition of NAC every day, and one serving of Liver Detox by NOW (I know it contains NAC too).
I bridged 11-oxo my last week on cycle and by taking only 3 caps so it was in my system Sun through Friday then that saturday night (may 17th) I began my tapper this way:
6 - 4 days, 5 - 4 days, 4 - days, 3 - 4 days, 2 - 4 days, 1 - 4days
I went through 3 bottles of the stuff, money is not an issue.
I continued eating but not as much went from 4500 calories (macros on cycle were 50 C 30 P 20 F for the most part), and went down to around 3500 calories THAT and another thing is where I F'D up.
Check this out, I had a golf, gambling, party trip planned with my 3 best friends the week after my cycle was over so I packed all my supps and continued my pct and diet but I drank a LOT on my trip SO I probably ruined a good amount of the hard work I did = STUPID.
My lifts continued to decline and about a month later I was back to my normal lifts, and my weight had basically returned to normal 210 as of June 15.
Then on June 11th I started Lean Extreme XT 2 caps a day for 1 week, then 3 for 2 weeks, then 4 for 3 weeks.
I then decided to cut, so on June 16th till now I've been cutting and I am now at 207lbs and 8.8% bodyfat (using calipers in 7 places). Last year at this time I was 196 and 9.5% bodyfat. So all in all I'm up in a year.
As for blood work, I got mine back from my test about 3 weeks ago and my cholesterol is exactly the same as it was pre cycle (204, I'm normally high, and I have a very dialed in diet, just genetics). My breakdown is as follows:
Overall 204
HDL: 86
LDL: 134 (was 129 so it ticked up 5)
Triglycerides: 65
Other tests (my doc didn't give me numbers for but just puts a check in the box indicating normal levels):
PSA (prostate)
Liver enzymes
Things I learned from my first Mdrol cycle (not my first AAS but my 3rd):
1. WATCH out when counting pills LOL, don't be stupid more does NOT equal better if you are contemplating that. I made a simple mistake but I've seen guys on here talking about 30 and 40 mgs of this stuff and NOT pulsing screw that. \
2. Don't drink, it is obvious I didn't on cycle but the 3 day party, golf, gambling fest (did win 500 on the blackjack so at least I paid for my cycle LOL LOL), I lost my gains, next cycle (in the fall) will be devoid of any alcohol in my PCT. I was an IDIOT I know.
Points to consider:
- I'm almost 3 months out from this, I didn't use a SERM like everyone says is a MUST and haven't had any SIDE effects since coming off the cycle, maybe still early, who knows but all is good. (I have a bottle of liqui torm and liqui nolva JUST in case lol sitting in the refridge.)
- My libido bounced back (used Horny Goat Weed to kick it into high gear, stuff works like magic, just take a lot of it and arginine.) and the boys are just fine large and in charge, GF is happy again.
Questions:
1. How should one adjust their workouts during PCT? I've read "high reps" keeps the gains for dry AAS compounds. Why? How so? What type of program? Suggestions?
2. Also how LONG after the cycle should one keep the caloric intake at the cycle level? All the way through the PCT and then how long after that?
3. Does anyone suggest any supp changes for the next go around?
Any and all advice would be welcome. I know I messed up, trust me, so I don't need to hear about the dosing at 30 and 40 mgs, what a wild ride.
I counted wrong (yes I have 2 science degrees and obviously am still a moe-ran when it comes to math LOL), and ended up dosing this way:
week 1 - MWF - 1 cap 10 mg (1 pre and 1 post)
week 2 - MWF - 2 caps 20 mg (bumped it to 30 mgs on Wed, so basically 30 mg for a week and a half)
Week 3 - MWF - 3 caps 30 mg (2 pre workout 1 post workout)
week 4 - MWF - 4 caps 40 mg (3 pre workout 1 post workout)
Weeks 1, 2, and part of 3 were fine. Half way into week three I experience moment where I had tightness in my chest and shortness of breath while food shopping about an hour after a very intense lifting session. Came and went VERY quickly so it wasn't something that stopped me.
Week 4 was tough, had a pale stool at the end of the week which is when I realized I had screwed up. I then recounted my dosing and realized my major error, then stopped that Friday with my last dose. I was just so freaking busy with school, work, and gf that I didn't even think about it, just had everything lined up and counted out and in daily packets. So much for organized LOL.
Also week 4 my boys were gone, I'm pretty big normally and it was like my body sucked them back up, was a little freaked out by that, also libido was GONE.
OK so side effects:
Weeks 1 - 2 very little, my joints started hating me towards the end of week 2, so I upped my taurine intake.
Week 3 started experiencing lethargy, and my scoliosis was starting to get worse pain-wise (I have a slight scoliosis where my spine meets my pelvis and when it flares up it aggravates the main nerve going down my right leg.)
Week 4 extreme lethargy, one pale stool on that thursday, and 2 incidents of extreme hypoglycemic shock, had to stop everything I was doing and eat 40-60 gms of carbs to restore my normal functions, that was the scariest of all things.
Positive Side:
All lifts went through the roof, not going into great detail but just to give you an idea:
Incline Bench normal: 225 6x
Mdrol Induced Incline Bench: 255 8x
Bench Press normal 225 test: 10-11x
Bench Press Mdrol 225 test: 17x (unreal record for me)
TBar Row Normal: 135 8-9X
Tbar Row Mdrol: 180 8x 3 sets! (for me that is a lot).
Just an idea of the potency of this stuff.
Body Stats:
6' 209lbs 12.5% bf, ended up at 223lbs didn't get a bf reading afterwards, so I f'd up there. Still I gained quite an impressive amount and yes everyone I know was like DUDE wtf are you on? I looked insane, and actually felt pretty freaking good.
Supplements:
On off days I took 2000 mg of NAC in the morning, 3 caps 6-oxo at night.
Everyday: Hawthorne berry, serving of prostate support by NOW, 40-50 Grams of BCAAs throughout the day, 2-3 grams of Vitamin C, 1 multi-v without iron, 2 3 gram servings of Arginine (1 preworkout and 1 before bed), ergopharm Nox without caffeine, 2 tall coffees a day one in the AM and one pre workout (no milk), and I took super cissus 2 caps in the AM and 2 caps in the PM for my joints, plus 1-2 grams of taurine pre workout.
Kitchen sink approach????
PCT Information:
Continued with all the above supps, with the addition of NAC every day, and one serving of Liver Detox by NOW (I know it contains NAC too).
I bridged 11-oxo my last week on cycle and by taking only 3 caps so it was in my system Sun through Friday then that saturday night (may 17th) I began my tapper this way:
6 - 4 days, 5 - 4 days, 4 - days, 3 - 4 days, 2 - 4 days, 1 - 4days
I went through 3 bottles of the stuff, money is not an issue.
I continued eating but not as much went from 4500 calories (macros on cycle were 50 C 30 P 20 F for the most part), and went down to around 3500 calories THAT and another thing is where I F'D up.
Check this out, I had a golf, gambling, party trip planned with my 3 best friends the week after my cycle was over so I packed all my supps and continued my pct and diet but I drank a LOT on my trip SO I probably ruined a good amount of the hard work I did = STUPID.
My lifts continued to decline and about a month later I was back to my normal lifts, and my weight had basically returned to normal 210 as of June 15.
Then on June 11th I started Lean Extreme XT 2 caps a day for 1 week, then 3 for 2 weeks, then 4 for 3 weeks.
I then decided to cut, so on June 16th till now I've been cutting and I am now at 207lbs and 8.8% bodyfat (using calipers in 7 places). Last year at this time I was 196 and 9.5% bodyfat. So all in all I'm up in a year.
As for blood work, I got mine back from my test about 3 weeks ago and my cholesterol is exactly the same as it was pre cycle (204, I'm normally high, and I have a very dialed in diet, just genetics). My breakdown is as follows:
Overall 204
HDL: 86
LDL: 134 (was 129 so it ticked up 5)
Triglycerides: 65
Other tests (my doc didn't give me numbers for but just puts a check in the box indicating normal levels):
PSA (prostate)
Liver enzymes
Things I learned from my first Mdrol cycle (not my first AAS but my 3rd):
1. WATCH out when counting pills LOL, don't be stupid more does NOT equal better if you are contemplating that. I made a simple mistake but I've seen guys on here talking about 30 and 40 mgs of this stuff and NOT pulsing screw that. \
2. Don't drink, it is obvious I didn't on cycle but the 3 day party, golf, gambling fest (did win 500 on the blackjack so at least I paid for my cycle LOL LOL), I lost my gains, next cycle (in the fall) will be devoid of any alcohol in my PCT. I was an IDIOT I know.
Points to consider:
- I'm almost 3 months out from this, I didn't use a SERM like everyone says is a MUST and haven't had any SIDE effects since coming off the cycle, maybe still early, who knows but all is good. (I have a bottle of liqui torm and liqui nolva JUST in case lol sitting in the refridge.)
- My libido bounced back (used Horny Goat Weed to kick it into high gear, stuff works like magic, just take a lot of it and arginine.) and the boys are just fine large and in charge, GF is happy again.
Questions:
1. How should one adjust their workouts during PCT? I've read "high reps" keeps the gains for dry AAS compounds. Why? How so? What type of program? Suggestions?
2. Also how LONG after the cycle should one keep the caloric intake at the cycle level? All the way through the PCT and then how long after that?
3. Does anyone suggest any supp changes for the next go around?
Any and all advice would be welcome. I know I messed up, trust me, so I don't need to hear about the dosing at 30 and 40 mgs, what a wild ride.
