My friend needs some help

[sreed11]

My friend says he has been lifting for a while now. truth of the matter is he has not been. He comes into a gym that i work at so i can check how many times a month he comes in. He says he comes in "at least 4 times a week". The last 3 months he's averaged about 8 times a month actually. He has a terrible diet consisting of maybe 1000 calories a day, low protein, and overall just nothing really too healthy for him. He considers eating two salads (with no meat) a big lunch.... His lifts are improper and overall it's just bad news. The reason why this is bad news is because after only "lifting hard" for a month he went on the ever so popular cycle of tren and mass. I had previously told him to stay away from that until he knew the effects and what was in it. He went behind my back i guess you could say and went on it w/o knowing of any post cycle therapy. he gained about 20 pounds while being about 6 foot, 150. I told him he most likely wont keep much of his gains considering his lack of nutrition and lack of muscle in the first place. He of course being stubborn wont listen to anything i say except for he went on an estrogen blocker once i told him and he slacked off on that as well. While on the estrogen blocker he started superpump 250... he's about to finish his cycle of superpump 250 after about two and a half months! i'm almost positive he is going to go try to get on another thing because i am currently cycling on SUS500 and he cant stand when i am making significant gains and he is not. Does anybody know what i should tell him or do to keep him away from going on more supplements or even steroids!? i just dont know what to do and i'm afraid he will, in the near future, go on steroids while having about 10 pounds of muscle on him and probably 20-30 pounds of fat while not listening to me about nutrition or lifting properly, what muslce groups to lift with eachother, etc.... Any suggestions?

 

[Cellardude]

Please allow your friend to read this thread. I wrote up the jist of steroids. Although steroids would be considered "safe" at the appropriate age and discipline, his lack of judjement and discipline is what makes steroids abusive and very dangerous.

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I consider steroids more harmful in the mental aspects rather than the physical. Physically, if you control your cycle with supporting supplements and get tested you should be fine. However without proper discipline ( which is why I think the 21 age barrier was set. besides the development of the endocrine system as well) he is going to abuse the **** out of the roids.

His lack of diet means he cannot/ does not know know to gain mass properly. His mental thinking coming off a cycle is I need more _____. Im getting small agian. This results in abuse. His competitive attitude torwards other people is also something that must be fixed. You are in the gym to be happy with yourself. Patience and discipline is needed. You are NOT there to compete with how much muscle gain you got and gloat. Your friend needs a reality check because sooner or later, everything is going to catch up with him. His abusive and uncontrolled disciplined actions in this sport is going to cause him harm or death. Nutrition and diet is one thing, having a lack of poor judgement and discipline is a whole nother story. They are linked together to cause some serious harm.

In conclusion
Poor diet = lack of natural gains
Bad training = lack of gains
Poor knowledge = lose of gains
Competitive attitude = abuse
Lack of all the above = cycle after cycle

It's a never ending cycle alright. Better break it now or he'll be broken.

 

[LilPsychotic]

My friend says he has been lifting for a while now. truth of the matter is he has not been. He comes into a gym that i work at so i can check how many times a month he comes in. He says he comes in "at least 4 times a week". The last 3 months he's averaged about 8 times a month actually. He has a terrible diet consisting of maybe 1000 calories a day, low protein, and overall just nothing really too healthy for him. He considers eating two salads (with no meat) a big lunch.... His lifts are improper and overall it's just bad news. The reason why this is bad news is because after only "lifting hard" for a month he went on the ever so popular cycle of tren and mass. I had previously told him to stay away from that until he knew the effects and what was in it. He went behind my back i guess you could say and went on it w/o knowing of any post cycle therapy. he gained about 20 pounds while being about 6 foot, 150. I told him he most likely wont keep much of his gains considering his lack of nutrition and lack of muscle in the first place. He of course being stubborn wont listen to anything i say except for he went on an estrogen blocker once i told him and he slacked off on that as well. While on the estrogen blocker he started superpump 250... he's about to finish his cycle of superpump 250 after about two and a half months! i'm almost positive he is going to go try to get on another thing because i am currently cycling on SUS500 and he cant stand when i am making significant gains and he is not. Does anybody know what i should tell him or do to keep him away from going on more supplements or even steroids!? i just dont know what to do and i'm afraid he will, in the near future, go on steroids while having about 10 pounds of muscle on him and probably 20-30 pounds of fat while not listening to me about nutrition or lifting properly, what muslce groups to lift with eachother, etc.... Any suggestions?

Sometimes, people like this have to learn their own lessons. You can't tell them anything.