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My first Test E cycle.

Rhino230

Rhino230

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I’m going to be starting my first cycle next week and would like suggestions/tips.
My stats are 23yrs, 5”10’, 160lbs, 13-14%bf.
Week 1-12 Test E 250mg 2xs a week
Week 1-14 .5 arimidex eod
Week 14-17 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
I can’t find hcg or I would add it.
I also have anavar so I thought about adding 50-100 mg a day week 5-12 but haven’t decided yet. My diet is and will be on point, I am training 6 days a week. I want to add 20+ pounds while cutting a little fat off. Any tips would be appreciated.Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
 
Looks good to go, IMHO.
9 weeks of var seems a bit long IMHO..
 
I would start or finish with the Var, but looks good! Keep an eye on BP CEL Cycle Assist and Flaxseed Oil does the trick for me
 
It's possible you could gain that at 250mg test (test is gonna be the bulker here) but it is quite low to bulk with. I don't think estrogen will be much of a problem and I wouldn't recommend starting with arimidex at 0.5. 0.25 should be enough if you're not extremly prone to estrogenic sides. You don't wanna kill your estrogen buddy. Maybe do a bloodcheck during cycle to know for sure.
 
Rhino230 said:
I’ll be doing 500mg a week. But I’ll try .25 out to begin with and see how that goes.
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Thing is, the higher BF% -the more aromatization is to expect. You are already lean. I would add 50mg proviron (2x25mg) and skip the AI, having it on hand, my bet is, you wouldn't need it.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Thing is, the higher BF% -the more aromatization is to expect. You are already lean. I would add 50mg proviron (2x25mg) and skip the AI, having it on hand, my bet is, you wouldn't need it.
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I’ll have to do my research on proviron, I haven’t read much about it. I have about a week before I can start anyways because I have to order my syringes online no pharmacy will sell to me.
 
I have been on test e for the past year with great results. I use an on cycle support such as CEL CYCLE ASSIST and CEL TUDCA to make sure my organs and liver are protected.
 
jgntyce said:
I have been on test e for the past year with great results. I use an on cycle support such as CEL CYCLE ASSIST and CEL TUDCA to make sure my organs and liver are protected.
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Why would you be on test for a year? Trt?
 
CATdiesel76 said:
You look like you could put a good 30lbs on naturally before touching test. Just saying
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This. I’d honestly stay natural for as long as possible; you’ve still got plenty of time to grow naturally. But I’m not really expecting you to listen to me, so I’m still here for advice.
 
jgntyce said:
I have been on test e for the past year with great results. I use an on cycle support such as CEL CYCLE ASSIST and CEL TUDCA to make sure my organs and liver are protected.
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CEL makes good products, but you’re already getting a gram and a half of NAC with Cycle Assist so, to the OP, there’s no real need for Tudca unless you’re running orals too.
 
I’d be curious to see your lifting stats. I’m Not trying to be an ass. Actually trying to help. Don’t think you have been training long. Save the juice for when the gains come harder. Stuff your face, lift heavy, add a solid 30lbs, then hit the sauce. You have so much natural potential left that it would be stupid to do juice at this moment. Plus, you will be bigger in the long run if you fill out your natural potential and then use it. If you can’t figure out how to add that without the juice, you won’t keep anything once you are off.

Trust me from experience. If you are going to do it anyways, use Clomid pct not Nolva. It will restart things much faster. Clomid sides are overblown if you keep the dose down. 50/50/25/25/12.5/12.5 is how I’d go. Get a few different sources in case one is bunk.

Don’t even touch the arimidex unless things flair up but definitely have it on hand. Most don’t need it for only 500mg of test. If your nips get sensitive or any other high estro sides arise, start to use it.

Save the anavar. No need for that much gear on a first cycle. You will blow up on test alone especially since you haven’t come close to filling out your frame.

That’s my advice take it however you want
 
I appreciate all the responses. I am starting today and have decided on this
Week 1-12 test 250mg 2 times a week
Week 1-14 .25 arimidex eod will probably bring up to .5 eventually.
Week 7-14 50 a var a day
Week 14-17 nolvadex 40/40/20/20
I will post here weekly with updates.
 
8 weeks anavar? 6 is enough. Else from that it seems pretty good. I would do a little better pct like Clomid cardarine
 
Nolva is stronger per mg and better for gyno but it's a more potent pct to stack them. When stacking you can run Clomid at a lower dosage. People tend to think mostly about the cycle without realizing how much you can actually loose afterwards. That's why I think an ai, nolva and clomid with cardarine should be used
 
I am planning a similar cycle for my next one. I just finished a 10 weeks of test e 500mg/wk. I loved it and gained 20lbs, and all lifts increased. It all comes down to diet whether you'll be able to gain weight while getting leaner... enjoy and I'll be following!
 
Yesterday was my first pin and I’ve been sore as hell pinned in glute. Plan to keep pinning in glute as long as the soreness gets better. My calories are right around 3500 right now. Struggling with that because I’ve cut for the last 3 months but plan to up it to 4K soon
 
I took my first dose of adex at .25 eod but really debating on taking it up to .5 eod because a big fear of gyno. What’s the pros and cons of taking more?
 
Mrclassic said:
I am planning a similar cycle for my next one. I just finished a 10 weeks of test e 500mg/wk. I loved it and gained 20lbs, and all lifts increased. It all comes down to diet whether you'll be able to gain weight while getting leaner... enjoy and I'll be following!
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Thanks for the reply! Any bad sides?
 
Cons are if you crash your estro you're gonna be hating life. Pros are not having high estro which means less water and the other side effects that come with it, you gotta find the right dosage to keep you in a healthy spot estro wise
 
Rhino230 said:
Yesterday was my first pin and I’ve been sore as hell pinned in glute. Plan to keep pinning in glute as long as the soreness gets better. My calories are right around 3500 right now. Struggling with that because I’ve cut for the last 3 months but plan to up it to 4K soon
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What size needle are you using and do you know where in the glute to pin? I’d hate to come close to the sciatic nerve lol.
 
cstallion said:
Thought these two products have different ingredients?
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They do. I think he was just saying that the tudca isn’t really necessary in his case, which I agree with. Cel cycle assist should be plenty so long as you aren’t stacking multiple methylated orals or running dimethyl orals.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
They do. I think he was just saying that the tudca isn’t really necessary in his case, which I agree with. Cel cycle assist should be plenty so long as you aren’t stacking multiple methylated orals or running dimethyl orals.
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Ok, understand now. Thanks for the reply. Trying to lower my AST and ALT a bit, thats why I asked. ALT was 54 from last weeks blood test. So I’m hoping to get that back to a normal range.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
They do. I think he was just saying that the tudca isn’t really necessary in his case, which I agree with. Cel cycle assist should be plenty so long as you aren’t stacking multiple methylated orals or running dimethyl orals.
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cstallion this is what I meant. I also may or may not have been irritated by the bot trying to sell you products you didn’t need. CEL’s stuff is good, it sells itself. There’s no need to push tudca unless you fall into the categories mentioned above. Cycle assist alone will be perfect
 
Chasingtails said:
cstallion this is what I meant. I also may or may not have been irritated by the bot trying to sell you products you didn’t need. CEL’s stuff is good, it sells itself. There’s no need to push tudca unless you fall into the categories mentioned above. Cycle assist alone will be perfect
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He literally will tell anyone and everyone to run tudca if given the opportunity lol. I totally support cel, but tudca isn’t a necessity unless stacking methyls or running dimethyls imo.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
He literally will tell anyone and everyone to run tudca if given the opportunity lol. I totally support cel, but tudca isn’t a necessity unless stacking methyls or running dimethyls imo.
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Ok, thanks man. Again, I have high blood pressure and some elevated liver values. My ALT is 54, so I’m hoping to get those down to normal ranges. If you guys Cycle Assist is the “go to” for that then I’m gonna grab a bottle and run a log here. Thanks.
 
Rhino230 said:
Thanks for the reply! Any bad sides?
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I actually had zero side effects. Although my left nipple did start to get sensitive about week 5 so I upped dose of arimidex from .25eod to .5eod, and starting taking 20mg nolvadex ed cause I was paranoid. Sensitivity was gone about 1.5-2 weeks later.
 
Today was my second injection and it went smoothly. I just started to get a little itchy nips every once in a while. Is that normal? Should I up my AI?
 
I would be pretty surprised if you were actually getting itchy nipples on just the second shot of enenthate. Probably in your head
 
Rhino230 said:
23g 1.5 abs yeah I know where to pin
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23g. ..crap man i use 23g just to draw from vials..29/30 g 1 in soo much smoother..depends on the carrier thou.. my test luckiy is made with mct oil..super thin.. you plan to just pin in glutes? id suggest bouncing around alitte.
 
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