MY FIRST 2 PINs ever BOTH GOT INFECTED!!!! Help

[laja3218]

Last week on 4/20 I did my first pin ever (testosterone only). It felt sore but as I read from forums it was to be expected. Three days afer I also pinned the morning of 4/23. First pin was right glute and 2nd pin was left glute. By the end of 4/23 I realized my right cheek was so swollen and red so I went to the ER because I could hardly walk. They gave me anti biotics through the IV and some oral ones. The following day it was getting worse so I went to the doctors again and they gave me a different anti biotics. The day after that the new anti biotic wasn’t helping and my left side was beginning to feel tremendous pain so I went to the ER one more time! Small abscess in the left cheek they had to drain the puss out. Why are both my pins affecting me like this? I wash my hands, sterile needles every time , wipe down the injection spot, wipe down the top of the bottle, put a bandaid over when I’m done. I follow all the rules and this **** still happens. The infection is called cellulitis by the way. I REALLY want to do this cycle so I want to try pinning in my deltoid which would be tomorrow. Any feed back guys? Lemme know if you need any more information. 29 years old, 5’6, 164 pounds. Pretty muscular.

 

[Kratom267]

Bad gear or possibly your allergic to the type of carrier oil that its suspended in...ditch immediately.

 

[Renew1]

What happened to the other comments on this post??

 

[laja3218]

I have no idea. Pretty new here

 

[Shiznitzz]

Bad gear it sounds like, you did all the right stuff to sterilize the spot

 

[Renew1]

I have no idea. Pretty new here

Weird.

I had the same thing happen years ago. Both thighs. Wasn't fun.

 

[laja3218]

Yeah man I can barely walk right now it’s bad

 

[Renew1]

Yeah man I can barely walk right now it’s bad

Keep an eye on it. They may have to drain the other side, as well.

 

[brofessorx]

There were two threads. This must be the other one. Here ya go:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/302571-my-first-2-a.html#post6002395

 

[jmero2]

Bad gear...

 

[Renew1]

There were two threads. This must be the other one. Here ya go:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/302571-my-first-2-a.html#post6002395

Ahhhh, thanks!

 

[Georgiepecker]

You are very unlucky or doing something terribly wrong. What gear did you buy lol I wouldn’t trust it

 

[laja3218]

It’s gotta be the gear. Everything I used are new, sterile, I even wore gloves the first time. I used a band aid after. Pretty safe about it

 

[Big_Zeus166]

Last week on 4/20 I did my first pin ever (testosterone only). It felt sore but as I read from forums it was to be expected. Three days afer I also pinned the morning of 4/23. First pin was right glute and 2nd pin was left glute. By the end of 4/23 I realized my right cheek was so swollen and red so I went to the ER because I could hardly walk. They gave me anti biotics through the IV and some oral ones. The following day it was getting worse so I went to the doctors again and they gave me a different anti biotics. The day after that the new anti biotic wasn’t helping and my left side was beginning to feel tremendous pain so I went to the ER one more time! Small abscess in the left cheek they had to drain the puss out. Why are both my pins affecting me like this? I wash my hands, sterile needles every time , wipe down the injection spot, wipe down the top of the bottle, put a bandaid over when I’m done. I follow all the rules and this **** still happens. The infection is called cellulitis by the way. I REALLY want to do this cycle so I want to try pinning in my deltoid which would be tomorrow. Any feed back guys? Lemme know if you need any more information. 29 years old, 5’6, 164 pounds. Pretty muscular.

Question!! You use a steril needle to draw your gear. After you fill the syringe do you swap and put a brand new needle on?! If you dont make sure u put a new needle on after you draw! Also, if that's not the case it's the gear bro! Throw it away and get new gear! PM me If you need any help!

 

[laja3218]

Draw with 18 brand new sterile. Switch to 23 to pin. Wipe down injection site and even put a band aid after just to be safe

 

[laja3218]

Brand new 23 sterile as well

 

[mattwv]

Bad gear. Ditch it. I prob wouldn't buy the same brand from the same lab.

 

[Big_Zeus166]

Draw with 18 brand new sterile. Switch to 23 to pin. Wipe down injection site and even put a band aid after just to be safe

What he just said is exactly what I do!

 

[Renew1]

Question!! You use a steril needle to draw your gear. After you fill the syringe do you swap and put a brand new needle on?! If you dont make sure u put a new needle on after you draw! Also, if that's not the case it's the gear bro! Throw it away and get new gear! PM me If you need any help!

With the way he sterilizes everything, using the same needle isn't going to cause infection. (Everything's sterile).

 

[Big_Zeus166]

With the way he sterilizes everything, using the same needle isn't going to cause infection. (Everything's sterile).

Rubbing an alcohol pad over the top of a vial doesn't completely sterilize it. If you inject properly you should use a different needle to inject. The one time I didn't use a different needle I got a mild infection.

 

[Renew1]

Rubbing an alcohol pad over the top of a vial doesn't completely sterilize it. If you inject properly you should use a different needle to inject. The one time I didn't use a different needle I got a mild infection.

Hmmmm....., If that were the caee, wouldn't Drs and Nurses do the same?

Don't get me wrong, I change my out almost every time anyway, but it's more for ease than sanitary reasons.

...and think about it...if a swab couldn't sanitize a vial top, it sure couldn't sanitize our nasty skin.

 

[Big_Zeus166]

Hmmmm....., If that were the caee, wouldn't Drs and Nurses do the same?

Don't get me wrong, I change my out almost every time anyway, but it's more for ease than sanitary reasons.

...and think about it...if a swab couldn't sanitize a vial top, it sure couldn't sanitize our nasty skin.

I understand where you are coming from! But nurses also draw from pharma grade vials and not UGL vials. Alot of nurses also use Amps instead of vials now due to sanitary purposes!

 

[brofessorx]

It’s definitely a bummer.
I just draw and stick. I have a very good immune system though.

 

[laja3218]

I emailed the company and they said it’s because I used test E 500 and the concentration is too strong so the pip gave me infection like symptoms. Iono man

 

[Big_Zeus166]

I emailed the company and they said it’s because I used test E 500 and the concentration is too strong so the pip gave me infection like symptoms. Iono man

I would drop them bro! All the Test-E I see is dosed at 250mg! If I were you I would find a new source! Gear shouldn't be giving you infection like symptoms that's ridiculous!

 

[Renew1]

I emailed the company and they said it’s because I used test E 500 and the concentration is too strong so the pip gave me infection like symptoms. Iono man

They're full of crap.

 

[Kratom267]

Why would the concentration matter? I see the Test E 500 you got...
Does it usually give bad PIP/infections because of the concentration? You should email them again asking what its suspended in (what carrier oil was used in the Test E 500)? Whatever it is, id pick another source, regardless of concentration and make sure its suspended in some other carrier oil. Usually its either water or some kind of oil (grape seed oil, etc), correct?

 

[laja3218]

Iono bro this was suppose to be my first cycle. When you read other forums people do say higher concentration may cause more pip

 

[Renew1]

Iono bro this was suppose to be my first cycle. When you read other forums people do say higher concentration may cause more pip

More pip, yes.
Infection...no way.

 

[brofessorx]

Sounds like something made for animals in Mexico lol
Testo-400

 

[Big_Zeus166]

More pip, yes.
Infection...no way.

I agree with Renew! No way you should be getting infected! Throw away the gear cut ur losses and find a new source!

 

[laja3218]

Check this out guys. I stopped using the test 500, picked up a new bottle of test 300, different source. Pinned in my left shoulder, did .7 cc 3 days ago and on the first night I could immediately feel the pain after objecting. It felt like a horrible ache. I warned the test, massaged injection site with a warming pad after and next day I couldn’t move my arm. Very high pain then it started to get swollen and red and it was warm to the touch compared to the rest of my body. I’m starting to think my body doesn’t react well with gear. I poked my right deltoid yesterday with the needle just to see how it affected me today and nothing. Feels perfectly fine. It’s something about when I inject the test that really messes me up.

 

[Renew1]

Check this out guys. I stopped using the test 500, picked up a new bottle of test 300, different source. Pinned in my left shoulder, did .7 cc 3 days ago and on the first night I could immediately feel the pain after objecting. It felt like a horrible ache. I warned the test, massaged injection site with a warming pad after and next day I couldn’t move my arm. Very high pain then it started to get swollen and red and it was warm to the touch compared to the rest of my body. I’m starting to think my body doesn’t react well with gear. I poked my right deltoid yesterday with the needle just to see how it affected me today and nothing. Feels perfectly fine. It’s something about when I inject the test that really messes me up.

As (I think) somebody suggested above...you should have found out what oil they use. It could be an allergy to the specific oil.

 

[laja3218]

I will take a look as soon as I get home

 

[laja3218]

The new one is test enathate 300
Benzyl benzoate 10%
Benzyl alcohol 2% as preservative in grape seed oil.
Could another possibility be my body just can’t handle that much and try a lower dose as well?

 

[Renew1]

I will take a look as soon as I get home

The first thing you want to do is find out the type of oil used in both of the offending vials.

 

[Renew1]

The new one is test enathate 300
Benzyl benzoate 10%
Benzyl alcohol 2% as preservative in grape seed oil.
Could another possibility be my body just can’t handle that much and try a lower dose as well?

I doubt it.

 

[BlockBuilder]

Pretty scary to think what some of us will go through just to build some muscle. Not hating or anything just saying that sounds absolutely awful. Must be bad gear but damn. All those ER visits, 2 infections that’s crazy. The other day a regular gym goer who I see everyday was telling someone he just started using insulin because he’s sick of losing at his competitions. I swear since he said that a week or so ago he’s disappeared. It’s just crazy. I’m starting to wonder if it’s really all worth it.

 

[laja3218]

I’m hard headed and pissed I just can’t take my physique to the next level. I have another thread asking for help on my first cycle somewhere with pictures

 

[Mike Arnold]

Last week on 4/20 I did my first pin ever (testosterone only). It felt sore but as I read from forums it was to be expected. Three days afer I also pinned the morning of 4/23. First pin was right glute and 2nd pin was left glute. By the end of 4/23 I realized my right cheek was so swollen and red so I went to the ER because I could hardly walk. They gave me anti biotics through the IV and some oral ones. The following day it was getting worse so I went to the doctors again and they gave me a different anti biotics. The day after that the new anti biotic wasn’t helping and my left side was beginning to feel tremendous pain so I went to the ER one more time! Small abscess in the left cheek they had to drain the puss out. Why are both my pins affecting me like this? I wash my hands, sterile needles every time , wipe down the injection spot, wipe down the top of the bottle, put a bandaid over when I’m done. I follow all the rules and this **** still happens. The infection is called cellulitis by the way. I REALLY want to do this cycle so I want to try pinning in my deltoid which would be tomorrow. Any feed back guys? Lemme know if you need any more information. 29 years old, 5’6, 164 pounds. Pretty muscular.

Most likely cause--bad gear. It's very unlikely that your skin had enough bacteria on it, especially after disinfecting the area, to cause an infection like that...and to have it happen two times in a row? That's VERY unlikely. I'm calling bad gear. I've never had an infection after hundreds of jabs.

 

[jmero2]

Most likely cause--bad gear. It's very unlikely that your skin had enough bacteria on it, especially after disinfecting the area, to cause an infection like that...and to have it happen two times in a row? That's VERY unlikely. I'm calling bad gear. I've never had an infection after hundreds of jabs.

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