My doc is giving TRT will it hinder my recovery

pjsallday

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I have been off cycle for 5 months now. I did a 6 week transdermal cycle of test 175/mg/d and bold 100/mg/d my total test came back it was 243 and my free test was 23.5. I did a proper 5 week pct with Toremifene and rebound. I am 26 years old. The doc gave me test cyp 200mg every 2 weeks. I was wondering if the TRT will hinder my ablility to completly recover back to normal if it is still possible to recover. Thanks for your help.
 
pjsallday said:
I have been off cycle for 5 months now. I did a 6 week transdermal cycle of test 175/mg/d and bold 100/mg/d my total test came back it was 243 and my free test was 23.5. I did a proper 5 week post cycle therapy with Toremifene and rebound. I am 26 years old. The doc gave me test cyp 200mg every 2 weeks. I was wondering if the TRT will hinder my ablility to completly recover back to normal if it is still possible to recover. Thanks for your help.
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TRT is supposed to be for life. So you will never recover. I had a similar problem as you but I think my problem is related to a varicocele. Im 28 so I know how badly it sucks to have low test at our age. My Total test is usually around 300 and my DHT levels were super low.
 
Of course it does hinder your recovery. You'll need to jump onto some SERMs protocol using Clomid and Nolvadex in order to recover your system. Bodybuilders have been doing this since dawn.
 
as far as i know there will be no natty test recovery while still receiving exogenous test[trt],to fully recover therre must be no exogenous sources of test since your body reconizes that and stops production of natty test. however your organs will recover from the cycle.
 
BigAk said:
Of course it does hinder your recovery. You'll need to jump onto some SERMs protocol using Clomid and Nolvadex in order to recover your system. Bodybuilders have been doing this since dawn.
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I have heard of bodybuilders using a maitnenance cycle with something like 100mg of test a week. Are you suggesting run my serms while on the trt. If so I will probably run the same serm as I ran after the above stated cycle.

WATERLOGGED said:
as far as i know there will be no natty test recovery while still receiving exogenous test[trt],to fully recover therre must be no exogenous sources of test since your body reconizes that and stops production of natty test. however your organs will recover from the cycle.
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My understanding is that lower levels of test do not shut you down(but this is just an idea from the information I have read).


Thank you all for you help. I was wondering if jiminis, b50, or Dr. D could chime in. It would be greatly appreciated.
 
My prediction is that Dr. John will yank this entire thread out of here cause it references cycles, bodybuilders, pct, etc...

But, in the mean time and to answer your question; in order to recover your hpta successfully you'll need to abandon all kinds of exogenous sources of testosterone no matter how little it is. Implement the standard PCT SERMs that everyone's been using for years, and draw bloodwork to ansure proper recovery.
 
Ok moving this thread to anabolics section. If you would like you can post a more specific question in Dr. Johns section. But to answer your question I think your doctor is giving you a script based on the info you've given him. I bet if he knew you ran anabolic steroids he wouldn't have done so. Being on TRT your HPTA will NOT recover, running even a small dose of test will keep you system shutdown. If it were me I would not continue with the TRT instead run some other protocol to get my natural test higher.

pjsallday said:
I have heard of bodybuilders using a maitnenance cycle with something like 100mg of test a week. Are you suggesting run my serms while on the trt. If so I will probably run the same serm as I ran after the above stated cycle.



My understanding is that lower levels of test do not shut you down(but this is just an idea from the information I have read).


Thank you all for you help. I was wondering if jiminis, b50, or Dr. D could chime in. It would be greatly appreciated.
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i had low test like 189 after a cycle and that was 10 wks after last shot.my doc put me ontrt 200mg every 2 wks =388ng/dl , but there was no recovery and i knew that so with DR D's help i gave up trt 6 mnths ago and started a long pct[3mnths] with HCG/CLOMID/NOVA, and hopefully i'll be back to norm very soon.,...oh yeah i was on trt for 1.5 yrs.
 
BigAk said:
Of course it does hinder your recovery. You'll need to jump onto some SERMs protocol using Clomid and Nolvadex in order to recover your system. Bodybuilders have been doing this since dawn.
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PCT has really only been used since about the mid-80's and toremifene is a SERM, so he took care of that.
 
pjsallday said:
I have heard of bodybuilders using a maitnenance cycle with something like 100mg of test a week. Are you suggesting run my serms while on the trt. If so I will probably run the same serm as I ran after the above stated cycle.



My understanding is that lower levels of test do not shut you down(but this is just an idea from the information I have read).


Thank you all for you help. I was wondering if jiminis, b50, or Dr. D could chime in. It would be greatly appreciated.
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How about someone who had been on (HRT, TRT) for over ten years. I don't know where you heard that small doses of test will not shut you down.
100mg of test per week gives you about 70mg of test once you consider ester weight. That is about what males normally produce. Once the HPTA biofeesback loop senses it is already getting normal levels of test, it signals to shutdown normal production.
True, HRT is for life. It doesn't get better or fix itself.
 
Thank you very much for your help. I will be stopping trt(I only took one injection) and starting dr. d's protocol for resuming natural test with hcg and standard pct. Anymore suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Good move. Some people take a little longer to recover. 4-5 weeks doesn't work for everyone. Good luck and keep us posted
 
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WATERLOGGED said:
i had low test like 189 after a cycle and that was 10 wks after last shot.my doc put me ontrt 200mg every 2 wks =388ng/dl , but there was no recovery and i knew that so with DR D's help i gave up trt 6 mnths ago and started a long post cycle therapy[3mnths] with HCG/CLOMID/NOVA, and hopefully i'll be back to norm very soon.,...oh yeah i was on trt for 1.5 yrs.
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Most GP's and endos know less about HPTA restoration protocol than they do TRT protocol. I for one would be interested in your progress. Update us when you can. Thanks.
 
I will update this thread after I am done with Dr. D's protocol after that I will wait a couple of months and get a blood test and then I'll post the results. Just being low 5 months after my cycle has me a little stirred. But I think it was dr. d saying that he was shut down for something like 18 months after one of his cycles or maybe bobo. Thank you all very much for you help and support.
 
Dr. John I was going to run Dr. D's protocol just with less hcg. I was going to run it more like 500/250/250/100 with the rest of the protocol staying the same. I heard that too much hcg can just shut you down further and possibly permanantly desensitize your hpta.I was also wondering how long I should wait after the 10 week protocol to get my bloodwork done again. I would just like your input on my problem if you would. Thank you.
 
B5150 said:
Most GP's and endos know less about HPTA restoration protocol than they do TRT protocol. I for one would be interested in your progress. Update us when you can. Thanks.
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i sure will i'll be goin to the doc again soon[3-4wks] i'm tryin to let my test get up there as much as possible !i hope this worked because of my age[45].
 
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