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My Cycle plan: comments appreciated

mark118

mark118

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Here's my final cycle plan. Will commence this in ~1-2 months.

Precycle 7-10days of milk thistle and hawthorn berry at 1g/day

Cycle: (will be using CEL cycle assist)

AndroID (stanodrol clone)- weeks 1-6
300,300,300,300,300,300

MegaVol (SD) - weeks 2-4
00, 20, 20, 20, 00, 00

Pheravol V (pplex clone) - weeks 5-6
00, 00, 00, 00, 30, 30

OR:

AndroID (stanodrol clone)- weeks 1-6
300,300,300,300,300,300

MegaVol (SD) - weeks 1-3
20, 20, 20, 00, 00, 00

Pheravol V (pplex clone) - weeks 4-6
00, 00, 00, 30, 30, 30

PCT:
Genox (tamoxifen) 40 for the 1st 2 days, and then 20,20,10,10
Weeks 3 - Suppress C and Active Xtreme
Creatine and Whiteflood
Tribulus for libido

NB: I was thinking of buying AI Stoked/PCS or CEL PCT Assist for PCT as that starts on day 1 of pct and I figure shutdown will be pretty hard on this cycle so anything extra might be a good idea on top of the genox

Regarding the bridge, ive not seen any compelling reason to overlap a whole week. But this is the 1st time I'll be running any type of pplex

Any comments? Thanks!
 
Most people do a pplex sdrol bridge like this

pplex-30/30/30/30
sdrol-0/0/0/10/20/20

havent really seen any sdrol -> phera bridges tho

oh, and the additional natty tboosters wont really do anything compared to the tamox. You could throw in some clomid though and that would definitely be the better option for pct.

something like

clomid- 75/50/35/35
tamox-30/20/10/10
 
AndrewNico said:
Most people do a pplex sdrol bridge like this

pplex-30/30/30/30
sdrol-0/0/0/10/20/20

havent really seen any sdrol -> phera bridges tho

oh, and the additional natty tboosters wont really do anything compared to the tamox. You could throw in some clomid though and that would definitely be the better option for pct.

something like

clomid- 75/50/35/35
tamox-30/20/10/10
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i figured doing the SD 1st would make more sense as its more of a bulker. eg SD goes before the epi in an SD+Epi bridge. hoping the pplex would help consolidate and further the rapid gains that the SD gains

unfortunately, i only have the tamox. hence the hope that the natty booster(s) would add a lil extra
 
Phera is more or less comparable to sd in terms of gains with far less sides, so comparing it to epi is sort of off.

However, if you do run it your way, definitely do a log of it on here so others can learn.


Oh, and sorry to tell you but your hope in natty tboosters is misplaced. Running tamox at 20/20/20/20 (yes no taper) will be fine though.
 
last time i ran sd/pplex bridge was last year, it was a solid bridge.

i ran it like this
SD 10/20/20
PP 00/00/20/30/30/40
 
AndrewNico said:
Phera is more or less comparable to sd in terms of gains with far less sides, so comparing it to epi is sort of off.

However, if you do run it your way, definitely do a log of it on here so others can learn.


Oh, and sorry to tell you but your hope in natty tboosters is misplaced. Running tamox at 20/20/20/20 (yes no taper) will be fine though.
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Dosing of tamox is something i see so much variation in. 40,40,20,20 and 20,20,10,10 seem to be most popular but popular doesnt always = correct

jbryand101b said:
I recomend this

sd/pp 20mg each 4 weeks, maybe 30 with the pp.

pro dht 300mg first 4 weeks, 600mg last 2.
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if I understand correctly you're suggesting

SD: 20,20,20,20,00,00,00
PP: 00,00,00,20,20,20,20 (or 30)
DHT: 300-----------,600 for 2 weeks

Or no overlap? making it 8 weeks?

Without HCG on hand, Im worried about test recovery and impact on HDL on a 7 - 8 weeks cycle.
 
no, im saying to stack sd & pp together at 20mg each for 4 weeks.

like this

sd: 20/20/20/20
pp:20/20/20/20

pro dht: 300/300/300/300/600/600

pct, nolva: 20/20/20/20 (though I prefer clomid)
 
jbryand101b said:
no, im saying to stack sd & pp together at 20mg each for 4 weeks.

like this

sd: 20/20/20/20
pp:20/20/20/20

pro dht: 300/300/300/300/600/600

pct, nolva: 20/20/20/20 (though I prefer clomid)
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thanks for the input

im not too sure about this setup. I like the idea of bumping the dht to 600,600 to keep the gains (like PA 11oxo plan), but 20 of sd and pp sounds like a lot of toxicity/fast shutdown.

i wonder if suppression /recovery is better or worse with this plan compared with my original.


phatmike0704 said:
last time i ran sd/pplex bridge was last year, it was a solid bridge.

i ran it like this
SD 10/20/20
PP 00/00/20/30/30/40
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what were the keepable gains like? and how was the suppression/recovery?
 
in the end you will be using the same amount of steroid, so your liver will still be taking a beating. no matter what, it'll just be for 4 weeks vs 6.

shutdown/negative side effects will be greater with 6 weeks vs 4 also.
 
jbryand101b said:
in the end you will be using the same amount of steroid, so your liver will still be taking a beating. no matter what, it'll just be for 4 weeks vs 6.

shutdown/negative side effects will be greater with 6 weeks vs 4 also.
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interesting point.

i do like your suggestion of:

SD: 20, 20, 20, 20, 00, 00, 00
PP: 20, 20, 20, 20, 00, 00, 00
DHT: 300,300,300,300,600,600,600

I will seriously take that into consideration

thanks!!
 
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