Jiigzz,
Calories in calories out.
Yes. What do you know of that has more calories and less nutrients of what you NEED? Carbohydrates.
About my abs experience, I was not eating simple (I mean quick digesting, and don't pick my $hit apart because the terms I am using are the most known and understood, even though they may not be "scientific") carbs. I have never been a big junkfood guy. I just know that everything else stayed the same, and I changed to a carb cycle diet. 3 weeks later, they all showed good.
Not like "oh the lighting has to be just right", I mean, they showed good all the time. If carbs don't attribute to fat or at the very minimum, slow down fat loss, then why did this happen to me?
I know that too much in and not enough out of anything will make you gain. I think everyone knows that.
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Then you make the point that "some people think that bulking means you can eat whatever you want". I dont see what this has to do with the discussion on CHO." Well, the title of the OP is about bulking, and "most" people that bulk eat everything in sight. So that's why I said that. I'm just trying to get the point across that there is no reason to get fat while your bulking. And excess carbs will make you fat, more and quicker than excess protien. FACT.
"And just FYI, the least likely pathway for CHO is fat, as the body needs to fuel for brain and muscle function." Yea, I don't believe that, this kind of thinking to me is "broscience", and has never been clinically PROVEN to be true. Another personal experience I did. About 4 years ago, I did atkins for 6 months. Here's how it went:
First 2 MONTHS were induction. That means less than 20 carbs a day. I was around 8.
Second 2 Months were about 20 carbs.
Last 2 months were about 40 carbs.
This is daily. I felt fine the whole time, other than the typical headache/lethargy during the first couple days. I did it just to see what all the hype was about, I ended up losing about 15 pounds (i would guess that some was water, and maybe 10 lbs of fat), but I was still working out during the whole thing. I also know of other people who have done low carb diets for over a year continuous. Thier muscles and brains work fine. Explain?
Also, atkins works. Plain and simple. And I am not convinced that you will lose muscle, as long as you stay active and utilize your allowable carbs to the best, (greens and veggies instead of bread and potatoes).
Show me a all carbohydrate diet that works as well as atkins?
AND, have you ever looked at the amount of calories in an Atkins diet? Ground Beef, steak, pork, etc.? It ain't low, I can tell you that. Yet people loose wieght all the time on it. For some, it is muscle and fat. Not all.
How many athletic guys do you know eat the same amount of carbs as they do protien? I don't know any. At least that do it as a normal regular diet. What's a bodybuilders diet like before a show?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/peak_week_carb_strategies.htm
I'm not here to argue dude, and I def. don't know everything about food. I just tell my experiences, and things that has worked for me and other people I know.
mike
who are we to butt in ^.^
