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My 60 day Finaflex 1-Alpha experience log

jvought142 said:
Damn man that's crazy. I haven't experienced any hair loss on 1-andro and 550xd. Must be your genetics or the Alpha. How do you know ur losing all the har your pillow? Is it like chunks or just alot of strands?
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My pillow is pretty much hair free, but when I shampoo or comb my hair, 1 or 2 strands come out every time regardless of how many times I do it. They're also mostly very, very short hairs which would indicate that these are new hairs with an extremely short life cycle (problem as far as regrowth is concerned).
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
honestly mate -- if you are THAT concerned about a temporary phenomenon, then yes please cease cycle, and refrain from future use
I don't think steroids are for you
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I've battled through until now but it is definitely getting worse.

The shedding may be temporary but the results of hair loss aren't. Once they're gone, they're gone.. Unless you want to start Propecia of something along those lines.

To be big and bald, or smaller but with hair - that is the question. I would choose the hair, because I'm ugly as crap without hair.
 
I'm beautiful bald :)

Sucks with the hair loss brother. It's actually a side that I haven't really see many users encounter although I know it does happen.

Have you tried supplementing extra vitamin e by any chance?
 
Montego1 said:
I'm beautiful bald :) Sucks with the hair loss brother. It's actually a side that I haven't really see many users encounter although I know it does happen. Have you tried supplementing extra vitamin e by any chance?
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I supplement with tonnes of all vitamins bro.

I made an appointment with the Advanced Hair Studio on Saturday morning just to get a free check so I know whether this is simple shedding or the onset of MPB. That will give me the peace of mind to either continue my run or consider other options if needed.
 
If my friend does decide to order 2 x Alpha and 2 x 550XD then he's also going to end up getting 2 x Crea Trona and 2 x Pure Test as promo freebies from NP.

I guess he should be chuffed, but those added goodies will increase the size of his package (huhuhu - package) and potentially the chance of it getting picked up ..

Sad life
 
8 bottles isnt too bad.. worth the risk for 4 great products.

Sorry to hear about your hair. I have not encountered this myself. Maybe you will get some answers at that appointment.
 
wasme said:
8 bottles isnt too bad.. worth the risk for 4 great products. Sorry to hear about your hair. I have not encountered this myself. Maybe you will get some answers at that appointment.
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I'd like to think it's normal shedding, but better check in case. Head still looks the same front and back.

If I get the all clear I'll go all out and become a ginormous bastard, because right now the fear of hair loss is the only thing that's really holding me back.
 
cheru2016 said:
If I lost my hair I'd get test on script from my doctor and go all out.
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If I lost my hair it'd save me probably an hour a week and a hundred or more a year in razors.

Not saying I hope that happens. Just that if it did, I'd probably not care.
 
Missed the past few days as far as updates go; my apologies.

Day 30 Training Log - Arms:

30 second rests between all exercises.

All weights in kgs.

Exercise Name 1 RM Lifting Logs


Smith Machine Close Grip Bench Press 91
Set 1 : 70.0x9
Set 2 : 70.0x8
Set 3 : 70.0x6
Set 4 : 70.0x4
Set 5 : 80.0x2
Set 6 : 90.0x1
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Barbell Lying Triceps Extension 57.63
Set 1 : 45.5x8
Set 2 : 45.5x8
Set 3 : 45.5x7
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Weighted Tricep Dips 23.33
Set 1 : 12.0x13
Set 2 : 16.0x8
Set 3 : 20.0x5
Set 4 : 20.0x4
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Cable Triceps Pushdown 78
Set 1 : 58.5x10
Set 2 : 58.5x9
Set 3 : 58.5x9
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Cable Reverse Grip Triceps Pushdown 86.4
Set 1 : 72.0x6
Set 2 : 72.0x6
Set 3 : 72.0x6
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Barbell Close Grip Preacher Curl 50.66
Set 1 : 38.0x10
Set 2 : 40.5x6
Set 3 : 40.5x6
Set 4 : 43.0x4
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Dumbbell Twisting Standing Curl 28.5
Set 1 : 22.5x8
Set 2 : 22.5x8
Set 3 : 22.5x8
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Cable Close Grip Curl 91.8
Set 1 : 76.5x6
Set 2 : 76.5x6
Set 3 : 76.5x6
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Cable Reverse Grip Curls 68.39
Set 1 : 49.5x8
Set 2 : 54.0x8
Set 3 : 54.0x8
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Dumbbell Alternate Hammer Curl 25.33
Set 1 : 20.0x8
Set 2 : 20.0x8
Set 3 : 20.0x8
 
Day 31 Training Log - Legs:

90 second rests between sets.

All weights in kgs.


Exercise Name 1 RM Lifting Logs


Lying Leg Curls 90
Set 1 : 67.5x10
Set 2 : 67.5x10
Set 3 : 67.5x10
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Seated Leg Curl 60
Set 1 : 40.5x12
Set 2 : 43.0x11
Set 3 : 45.0x10
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Leg Extensions 96.66
Set 1 : 67.5x12
Set 2 : 70.0x10
Set 3 : 72.5x10
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Leg Press 405.33
Set 1 : 320.0x8
Set 2 : 320.0x8
Set 3 : 320.0x8
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Box Squat 130
Set 1 : 60.0x35
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Standing Calf Raises 133.33
Set 1 : 60.0x25
Set 2 : 70.0x20
Set 3 : 80.0x20
Set 4 : 80.0x20
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Smith Machine Reverse Calf Raises 133.33
Set 1 : 60.0x30
Set 2 : 70.0x25
Set 3 : 80.0x20
Set 4 : 80.0x20
 
Ok fellas - yesterday was my last day of 1-Alpha.
I had a great run but think I should give my body a little bit of a break; most of all, my testicles which now feel like stepped on grapes.
That's certainly not to say that I won't hit it up again however, as I still have 2 bottles of the stuff left over.

Now for my PCT .. I will be honest, I am a little anxious as to how long it's going to take my balls to get back to normal size (if at all).
Unfortunately I don't have access to SERMS like Tamoxifen so I'm not able to include that into my PCT. I do however have a heap of DAA and PCT Rev Black, as well as 13,500iu of HCG from my doctor.

Last night I took 3gm of DAA before bed and again this morning - will continue doing so for a month at least. I also took 3 PCT Rev's but have the most chronic pain in the right side of my neck leading up to my head which I had previously when using arimistane. As for the HCG, I'm planning to follow the Shippen Method and do 500iu Monday to Friday, with Saturdays and Sundays off for a total of 3 weeks.

Due to the extremely high testosterone to estrogen conversion ratio, an AI is a must whilst using HCG, however I'm a little dubious as to how effective arimistane would be over something like arimidex? I do not want to get gyno or be flooded with female sex hormones, so anybody who has an idea bout this, please let me know.

Any other things I should take into consideration?

Thanks all.
 
Interested in your pct cycle. You logging it here?
 
half-life of 1-Alpha is relatively short, or unusually long (depending on your POV)..~10-14 days
these sides you have mentioned, are all temporary -- as long as what you have stated here is a true & correct reflection of your actual use as a singular compound in your cycle .. they will dissipate in short-order, esp with hcg in the picture
as far as your reference to AI in relation to concurrent hcg use, understand I cannot guide you on this one..
I can say however that arimistane, while being a very nice niche compound, is a rather distant metabolite of 7keto dhea, and not comparable to a pharma AI in its effects ... using our product in place of a pharma AI in this instance that you mention, is not something we as a company will tell you to do
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
half-life of 1-Alpha is relatively short, or unusually long (depending on your POV)..~10-14 days
these sides you have mentioned, are all temporary -- as long as what you have stated here is a true & correct reflection of your actual use as a singular compound in your cycle .. they will dissipate in short-order, esp with hcg in the picture
as far as your reference to AI in relation to concurrent hcg use, understand I cannot guide you on this one..
I can say however that arimistane, while being a very nice niche compound, is a rather distant metabolite of 7keto dhea, and not comparable to a pharma AI in its effects ... using our product in place of a pharma AI in this instance that you mention, is not something we as a company will tell you to do
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10 to 14 days is a very long time (in my POV).
The hair shedding is still driving me mad and though you say that these effects are temporary, I have not heard of many/any instances in which androgenic hair-loss was reversed post-cycle. The balls on the other hand, will probably bounce back rather fast (I hope).

In response to your comment "as long as what you have stated here is a true & correct reflection of your actual use as a singular compound in your cycle", I have been 100% honest with everything I have done from day one. This cycle has consisted of nothing other than 1-Alpha run at 4 capsules a day. For about 5 days towards the middle of the cycle, I upped the dosage to 6 capsules but noticed that the hair shedding increased substantially and immediately reverted back to 4 capsules per day.
 
RegisterJr said:
Interested in your pct cycle. You logging it here?
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I just got back from the doctor now after discussing some research I've been reading from Dr. Scally.

I've always struggled with extremely low T levels since my early 20's and though I was prescribed TRT, I never accepted it as I felt (and still feel) that I am too young to have to rely on medication for the rest of my life; plus I'm getting married soon and would like to have children in the future, so I would rather not unnecessarily jeopardize my chances.

Anyhow, we have decided to implement Dr. Scally's PoWeR PCT Program in an attempt to reboot my HPGA.
This will not start however until another month or so as I need 20,000iu of HCG for this protocol which will take some time to get. There is a limit on how much HCG you are able to get in a particular time-frame here in AUS.

Until that time however, I'm going to be running DAA at 3gms daily and 3 caps of PCT Rev at night before bed for at least 6 weeks.
 
wasme said:
If I missed it sorry, but did you go to the hair appointment you mentioned to see what was up?
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Hey, brother.

I went on Saturday for the free "hair consultation" that they advertise on TV.
I'm not sure whether you know of Advanced Hair Studios, but they're a global business with a pretty bad reputation as scam artists and rip-off merchants that sell hair restoration packages (or wigs) for thousands upon thousands of dollars. The most popular treatment they offer is the laser hair therapy package which entails sitting under a laser beam for 6 months, rubbing some lotion on your head, and taking some herbal supplements. There's been no conclusive evidence that shows this laser therapy even works, so most suggest that it is the lotion (probably minoxidil) and herbal supplements that are actually giving the results and that the laser therapy is there to look like some kind of exclusive treatment, allowing them to charge a crapload for their services.

Anyhow - I knew all this going in and had no intention to actually invest in what they were selling. I just wanted somebody to look at my head under a microscopic camera and tell me what was up with my follicles. I sat down in the office with some very swarthy German guy who sounded like he had only just arrived in Australia fresh off the boat and listened to him tell me about all the wonderful things he could do for me. I then watched a 10 minute (and about 10 year old) video whilst he left the room and did the same thing with another poor sod.

He then came back and got me to sit in the chair, put the camera on my head and said the back and sides were consistent and thick (which I could see on the screen) but that the top part has some inconsistency in the follicles, i.e. some were very thick and others were very thin. He did a few more locations (perhaps a total of 5 on my entire head) and very gravely suggested that this is the beginning of baldness and that I will probably lose everything in 6 months to a year. "Cool story, bro", I thought, considering I still have a thick as mop on top of my head with absolutely no patches or visible thinning anywhere. Then of course he tried to tell me how important it is that I get on this laser therapy program as soon as possible, and that it would only cost me $4,000. Yeah, ok mate. He also warned very heavily against Finasteride and that the only way to sort this issue out is to sign up with AHS.

I took his card, left, and walked back to my place which isn't that far from their office. I kept running my fingers through my hair trying to see how many would fall out lol - it's becoming like an obsession now. I also read on the internet that a simple way to test if you're going bald is to lean over the basin and comb your head in a forward direction for 60 seconds. If you get about 10 hairs you're normal, but if you get more than 10, it may be the sign of baldness. Well, I get about 35 so I guess I'm ****ed. Or not. I really don't know.

So far, everything is still business as usual, though. I guess the issue isn't how many hairs you lose, but how many hairs grow back after you lose them. Unfortunately there's really no way to tell, other than to wait and see what happens. Lowering the circulating androgens in my blood however, is certainly a possible measure that may yield some kind of relief from this shedding.
 
Day 1 PCT Training Log - Chest:

60 second rests between all exercises.

All weights in kgs.

Exercise Name 1 RM Lifting Logs


Dumbbell Bench Press 58.33
Set 1 : 50x5
Set 2 : 50x5
Set 3 : 50x5
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Dumbbell Incline Bench Press 52.5
Set 1 : 45x5
Set 2 : 45x5
Set 3 : 45x5
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Chest Dip 26.67
Set 1 : 20x8
Set 2 : 20x8
Set 3 : 20x10
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Bench Press Machine 81
Set 1 : 67.5x6
Set 2 : 67.5x6
Set 3 : 67.5x6
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Dumbbell Fly 25.33
Set 1 : 20x8
Set 2 : 20x8
Set 3 : 20x8

Cardio -
30 mins walking - 10 incline / 5kph
 
The goal is obviously to keep the gains I've made (19.8lbs), so I'm altering my training style slightly to accommodate for this.

Those of you who have followed my log will know that I usually train with a lot of volume. Now however, with the removal of 1-Alpha from the picture, I've had to reduce the volume considerably, whilst still aiming to maintain the same poundage that I have been lifting on cycle. Research seems to favor a sacrifice in reps, rather than a sacrifice in weight post-cycle.

Today I did an intense but short workout that was over and done with in about 45 minutes. I did 15 sets total, maintaining the same rep-range and weights that I lifted in my previous chest workout. The only difference is that the previous workout probably had about 30+ sets, whilst this only had 15. I must admit however, the psychological edge of knowing that I only had to make it through half the usual load made it MUCH easier to power through those sets like a beast.

Job well done.
 
cheru2016 said:
In response to your comment "as long as what you have stated here is a true & correct reflection of your actual use as a singular compound in your cycle", I have been 100% honest with everything I have done from day one..
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I did not post that to infer otherwise; rather, it was simply an attempt to ease your worrisome countenance

the altered training approach above sounds good
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
I did not post that to infer otherwise; rather, it was simply an attempt to ease your worrisome countenance the altered training approach above sounds good
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Thanks Snagency.

Did the comb test again this morning and the number has gone down to 8 hairs. Hopefully this reduced number sticks around.

It's very difficult to come off the Alpha after having such good results on it. I keep looking at the 2 bottles I have left .. very tempting.

I seemed to reach the peak of my results around the third/fourth week and then didn't change much sonic that time, so perhaps it was best to give it a rest and possibly attempt again in the future.
 
Day 2 PCT Training Log - Back:

120 second rests between deadlifts. 60 seconds between all others.

All weights in kgs.

Exercise Name 1 RM Lifting Logs

Barbell Deadlift 196.33
Set 1 : 140.0x10
Set 2 : 170.0x4
Set 3 : 185.0x1
Set 4 : 190.0x1
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Weighted Pull Ups 14.39
Set 1 : 12.0x6
Set 2 : 12.0x6
Set 3 : 12.0x6
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Close Grip Chin Up 14.39
Set 1 : 12.0x6
Set 2 : 12.0x6
Set 3 : 12.0x6
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Seated Machine Row 111.15
Set 1 : 85.5x9
Set 2 : 85.5x9
Set 3 : 85.5x9
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Cable Seated Row 85.5
Set 1 : 67.5x8
Set 2 : 67.5x8
Set 3 : 67.5x8
 
Day 3 PCT Training Log - Shoulders:

30 second rests between all sets.

All weights in kgs.

Exercise Name 1 RM Lifting Logs


Barbell Standing Press Behind The Neck 81.66
Set 1 : 60.0x8
Set 2 : 65.0x6
Set 3 : 70.0x5
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Barbell Push Press 79.33
Set 1 : 70.0x4
Set 2 : 70.0x3
Set 3 : 70.0x2
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Dumbbell Alternate Seated Lateral Raise 23.33
Set 1 : 17.5x10
Set 2 : 17.5x10
Set 3 : 17.5x10
Set 4 : 17.5x10
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Dumbbell Front Raise 21
Set 1 : 15.0x12
Set 2 : 15.0x12
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Dumbbell Lying Rear Delt Raise 21
Set 1 : 15.0x12
Set 2 : 15.0x12
Set 3 : 15.0x12
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Cable Rope Face Pull 68.39
Set 1 : 54.0x8
Set 2 : 54.0x8
Set 3 : 54.0x8
 
wasme said:
Workouts are looking good. How are you feeling 3-4 days into PCT?
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Feel completely normal man; no different than before and strength is still going up. Less volume is also making things much easier and taking less time out of my day which is a bonus.

I've added in some Anabeta Elite that I've had sitting on my shelf for a while, as well as some D-Pol DAA powder. Also, 20mg of tamoxifen ed.
 
Hello again, brothers in iron :arms:

It has now been almost 2 months since I wrapped up my first 1-Alpha cycle.
I only ran it for approximately 30 days but had some amazing results (and some less amazing side-effects towards the end of the cycle).
I started at about 82kg and ended up at 93kg from memory - practically zero fat was added during those 30 days, and strength gains went through the roof. I'm happy to report back now, almost 2 months later, that I have maintained my finishing weight of 93kg, whilst doing an ever so slight recomp over the past month with heavy lifting, on point nutrition and strategic implementation of caffeine throughout the day. Strength gains have not only been maintained but have surpassed the records I set whilst on cycle.

Now I am ready to try again. This time however, I am planning to approach my cycle with a lower dose which will hopefully minimize the chances of any side-effects occurring again this time around.

Today is my first day, and has started with 3 capsules spread throughout the day.

I've also included this photograph which was taken last week after my spray tan session (yeah, yeah - gay, I know) so we have some sort of reference point to gauge the success of this cycle upon it's completion.

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Glad to have you back.

Looking good up there bro.

Fortunately with body building we all get passes on leg shaving and spray tans!
 
Great to have you back! Can you give a break down of your supplement consumption for the day. Would like to see what you are running alongside 1-Alpha this time around. Looking jacked brother!

On a quick side note: does this mean you were successful at importing some more?
 
wasme said:
Great to have you back! Can you give a break down of your supplement consumption for the day. Would like to see what you are running alongside 1-Alpha this time around. Looking jacked brother!

On a quick side note: does this mean you were successful at importing some more?
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Hey mate :)
Good to hear from you again after all this time.

As far as supplements go:

Daily supplements used year-round: Opti-Men Multis, 5000iu of Vitamin D, USP Labs Super Cissus, Species Arthrolyze, Krill Oil, AI Labs Cycle Support, 5,000mg of Milk Thistle, SAN ZMA, SAN Testo Hardcore, Dymatize Elite-XT, Dymatize Elite Casein, Dymatize 7 Fusion, Finaflex G8.

Supplements used pre-workout: Beast Nutrition Creature Powder, Glycoenergy, BPI Sports Pump-HD.

Supplements used intra-workout: AEN Intrabolic.

Supplements used post-workout: Scitec Nutrition 100% Whey, Cellucor Amino Alpha.

I will start by running 3 caps of 1-Alpha a day, spread out at 5 hour intervals.

I also have HCG on script from my doctor and am planning to run 250iu once per week to prevent any testicular atrophy or loss of libido, which did happen last time I ran 1-Alpha.




From what I've heard, it should be fairly easy to order in more providing you use USPS and make small orders rather than large ones. It also helps if the company you're ordering from has all the paperwork 100% accurate to prevent complications during the shipping process. I didn't take a chance though, and ordered from within Australia at double the normal price.

I still had 84 capsules left and ordered another 120, so 204 total - planned at 3 caps a day for 40 days, and then possibly increasing it to 4 caps a day for the remaining 20 days.

I ran it at 4 caps a day last time, bumping it to 6 for about one week and then going back 4 as I noticed a substantial amount of hair shedding and testicular atrophy.
The atrophy I can deal with as I recovered very quickly following PCT, but the hair shedding was a major point of concern and anxiety for me, so I will be monitoring this closely.
 
I'm now 22 days into my second cycle of 1-Alpha.
I haven't experienced any crazy strength gains like last time, but training is going alright.
Since starting, I am up almost 1.5kg - though I feel that some of that is fat/water/carbs as my stomach is looking fairly soft compared to 3 weeks ago.

Something that I have experienced over the last week and a bit however, which I didn't experience last time, can only really be described as depression.
Since Friday last week I have been an absolute wreck. I already suffer from anxiety and obsess over my thoughts, quite often to the point of making myself sick, but this past week has been like nothing I have ever experienced before in my life. I have had numerous panic attacks, upsetting thoughts that I get stuck on for days on end, a constant feeling of melancholy that I can't shake no matter what I do, and tears; lots and lots of tears. I went to a therapist on Wednesday because I hadn't been able to function for over 4 days which effected my relationship with my fiancee and family, my job, my training, and pretty much every other facet of my life.

I am now at a crossroads and don't know whether to discontinue my cycle out of fear that what is happening to me is a result of a hormonal imbalance, or to continue, hoping that it is an unrelated matter and that things will sort themselves out on there own. I am now 3 weeks in and have experienced little to no effects from the 1-Alpha, but given my previous experience, this is about the time when things finally start to happen.

Do I just drop it and go straight onto PCT or keep riding it out for another month or so?

I have scoured the internet trying to find information regarding this compound and depression, but there is none.
There are however some posts from various people on various boards about pro-hormones amplifying emotional traits that people are already predisposed to experiencing.

If "anyone" could shed some light on this I would really appreciate it because I honestly don't feel like myself these days and am actually afraid of what is happening to me.
 
Any other changes in your life, stress?

Personally, I cannot attribute this being from 1-Alpha as your sense of well being should improve if anything. Not too be rude and do not take offense to this as it is not meant in that sense, but are you typically a hypochondriac? And thus thinking something is wrong - so it must be?

What kind of dosing are you doing? and anything else with it?

I can't guide you, but if I remember from your last run, you felt you had bad sides that made me think ph in general (even mild ones) didn't jive well with you. That said, if you think it will pass, push it a few more weeks and see how it goes.

If you are that concerned and feel it is the ph, then move on to PCT and leave simply ph's alone.
 
Thanks for your prompt reply mate and no offence taken at all.

Hyperchondriac no, but obsessive minus the compulsive, yes, I am.
I've noticed a marked change in my normal thought patterns over the past 8 days which has been painfully distressing for me.
I've been having many very negative thoughts and whilst I know them to be untrue, I can't dismiss them.
This sort of behavior is very non-typical - even for me.

I'm doing 3 capsules per day - morning, noon, night.
No other supplements other than support supps are being used.
 
The thing that strikes me though, is you did not have this issue last time and I believe you were running at 4 caps a day? Personally, I believe its coincidence - but I can't tell you what to do.

Only other thing I could think is that your estrogen is increasing - making you emotional.
 
wasme said:
The thing that strikes me though, is you did not have this issue last time and I believe you were running at 4 caps a day? Personally, I believe its coincidence - but I can't tell you what to do.

Only other thing I could think is that your estrogen is increasing - making you emotional.
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Yes - last time was at 4 capsules per day and none of this was experienced.

I have also been thinking that estrogen may have something to do with this, though when I got it tested about 3 weeks ago it was within normal ranges. I can't think of anything that would be jacking it up, however. I could use a very small amount of arimidex EOD to see if that levels things out, though the rebound with anastrozole is always of concern.
 
cheru2016 said:
Yes - last time was at 4 capsules per day and none of this was experienced.I have also been thinking that estrogen may have something to do with this, though when I got it tested about 3 weeks ago it was within normal ranges. I can't think of anything that would be jacking it up, however. I could use a very small amount of arimidex EOD to see if that levels things out, though the rebound with anastrozole is always of concern.
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Unfortunately, your going into areas that are beyond my expertise. I would think having your bloods taken 3 weeks ago, prior to starting a ph wouldn't mean much at this point. If you can get your bloods done now - you might have your answer.
 
wasme said:
Unfortunately, your going into areas that are beyond my expertise. I would think having your bloods taken 3 weeks ago, prior to starting a ph wouldn't mean much at this point. If you can get your bloods done now - you might have your answer.
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I'll try and pay a visit to my GP later this afternoon.
 
I really have no comment on the issues (mental/stress/negativity etc) that you espouse here, and I certainly do not think any hormonal agent could be sole impetus for any of these things..perhaps a partial contributor, as the body metabolism is very complicated, but it would simply be conjecture and speculation to attribute any of your issues either directly or in any other fashion
fact is: when one deals with pre-existing issues like anxiety, many many things can have an impact or play a part amplifying or aggravating such condition

my only question is: how long were you off the product, before starting another cycle?
roughly, it looks like you completed pct (after hi-dosing the compound), then pretty much immediately jumped back on

typical old standard guideline for downtime is:
cycle duration + pct duration = time off any hormonals

even our generic guidelines for use on the bottle itself will advise to take "at least 60 days off before beginning another cycle of 1-Alpha"
 
Thanks for your post Snagency.

I agree with what you've said and it's becoming more and more apparent these days.
I've had to discontinue using pre-workout as well. Work is quite stressful and I am very unhappy with that situation so that could most certainly be a factor in this.

My first cycle was for app. 32 days from memory, and I was off the product for 54 days before commencing my second cycle.
During the off-time I used tamoxifen, PCT Rev and DAA for 6 weeks.
 
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