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My 2nd Cycle

mike1218

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How does this cycle look so far? any advice is appreciated

2 Tokkyo Tren-45mg of 19-norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione per capsule
2 Dianevol-12 mg per capsule of 2á, 17á-dimethyl-17â-hydroxy-5á-etiocholan -3-one, 17b-ol

For 30 days each while using cycle support for a week before, the entire cycle, and 3 weeks during PCT

Other Supps will be
Xtend
Multi Vitamin
ON Whey
Muscle MIlk
Some type of pre-workout sup
 
Your ph stack is a confusing me. Is the (2) at the beggining of your 19 nor how many bottles you have? how many pills you are taking daily? what does that mean. dont list the chemical compound. most everybody knows the chemical compounds of most all ph's on this board.

Ive never heard of Dianevol but from the compound (maybe it is a good thing you put the compound down ha;) ) It seems like a superdrol clone..

So lets begin:

A 19 nor tren and Sd stack is hardcore but a very solid mass stack!! I was going to run this stack than I decided to swap out the tren for some Phera.

Secondly, id dose the tren 6 weeks, not 4. SD is very quick acting and you need a supplement thats going to work long enough to hold onto those quick and hardcore gains. tren is very good for this, but somewhat uneffective if you run it for the same length as the SD.

imo, Dose as follows:

SD Clone: 12/24/36mg/ed (VERY weird the pills are dosed at 12mg??)
19 nor Tren: 90/90/90/120/120/120mg/ed

this would be a very solid stack.

use the cycle support throughout the entire pct.

why are you on both muscle milk and ON Whey? youre on roids, you just need a plain whey..and youll be fine.

You dont need a pre workout supp. again, youre on roids. youll get plenty of a pump and energy from the tren and SD.
save your money. and put the money you were going to use for the muscle milk and N.O. product or whatever into something else.

thats my say.
 
Im gonna run down the questions your going to have to answer before we can proceed.

1.) How many cycles or is this first?
2.) Years lifting? Training Regimen**(sp check)
3.) Age?
4.) Diet?
5.) Where is your PCT??
6.) Goals of cycle?
 
LiveWire224 said:
Im gonna run down the questions your going to have to answer before we can proceed.

1.) How many cycles or is this first?
2.) Years lifting? Training Regimen**(sp check)
3.) Age?
4.) Diet?
5.) Where is your PCT??
6.) Goals of cycle?
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2: I started lifting at 14 with my HS football time but I didnt start taking it seriously until around 18.
-5 Days a week
Chest/Tris
Back/Bis
off
Shoulders
Legs
Arms
off
3: 23
4: Im planning on eating as much as possible but at least 300 Protein, 400 Carbs, 100 Fats
5: PCT Im still trying to figure out probably nolva 40/40/20/20
6: For the cycle I want to gain at least 10 pounds
 
The 2 besides the compunds was how many pills each day. And the tren is dosed at 45mg per capsule so I would have to run 90/90/90/90/135/135.

I was just getting the muscle milk to have before bed but just getting 2 tubs on whey sounds good and I was only planning on having a pre-workout because some days ive got to wake up very early to hit the gym before working all day
 
believe me, with the tren and sd clone. you wont need a pre workout. just pop down the pills right when you get up with some fats like olive oil or Pb. and get ready for the gyn then head on in. by that time the pills will do the same thing as a pre-workout.
 
mike1218 said:
2: I started lifting at 14 with my HS football time but I didnt start taking it seriously until around 18.
-5 Days a week
Chest/Tris
Back/Bis
off
Shoulders
Legs
Arms
off
3: 23
4: Im planning on eating as much as possible but at least 300 Protein, 400 Carbs, 100 Fats
5: PCT Im still trying to figure out probably nolva 40/40/20/20
6: For the cycle I want to gain at least 10 pounds
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Nice.

You should get some celery seed extract and/or hawthorne berry, BP will be a big issue with this cycle.

Just get AI's Cycle support, preload and use on cycle.
Some Taurine for back and shin pumps, have it on hand.


Protein(ON Whey Butta's)
Mutli-V
Fish oil--joints/cholesterol help
Cycle Support
Taurine--pumps
Extra BP supps, Celery Seed, Hawthorne, CoQ10
Cissus RX--joints
Liv 52
ZMA or Battle Fuel---Sleep support.
 
What a we gonna turn this into a cycle assist comp?

Get what you want Mike, its all laid out for ya.

Cycle Assist---or----Cycle Assist

Everyone has their staple, and goes with what works for them, find yours and stick with it.

Looking good and your on the right track, get your supports and cycle safe

Looking forward to following along with ur cycle and results

Cheers Brah
 
I already have cycle support and am planning on the 2 times a day it says. Do you think instead of getting all the extra support sups I could just add an extra serving of cycle support each day?
 
Yeah you could def do that.

I would say maybe the only I would get on top of the cycle support is Celery Seed...it gets into system faster than Hawthorne Berry does, so, in case you come across bad BP issues during cycle(which could possibly happen, everyone reacts different, but both compounds are know for BP issues) you would also have the Celery on hand and its effects are felt faster than the HB would.

So id say just have a bottle on hand.

What I laid out in post #10 is just what I use as staples if im Ph'n it or Juice'n it.

Always good to have things on hand in case problems arise, that way your not running to supp store (paying an arm and a leg) or ordering them online and whating for them to be shipped as your problems get worse.

Just some helpful tips.

Damn i feel like saucing it up now with all this cycle talk.
 
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