My 11 week cycle

Grant

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Starting a cycle for 11 weeks.

Week 1-10

700mgs 1-test cyp

2000mgs Sledge test

Weeks 1-2
5mgs M1T

1 cap a day Trimax for first 4 days
2 caps a day for last 10 days

Weeks 2-10
500iu HCG once a week


Weeks 10-11
M5aa while the cyps come out of my body


Weeks 11-15
Nolva 40, 40, 20, 20
Clomid 150,100, 100, 50
6oxo 600,300, 300, 300
Maybe some IGF-1
Product X Dermasize
 
Hey Grant, do you notice drastic benefits from running Nolva, Clomid, & 6-OXO for PCT when compared to Nolva alone ?
 
Well, I got my test levels checked from 3 weeks of Nolva and 6oxo at 600mgs a day, and my total test was 998. I did 200mgs of clomid the night before the test and continued at 100mgs for 2 weeks after that. Clomid and nolva work through different mechanisms at restarting the HPTA (dont ask me...heh) so I like to use them both.
 
Any suggestions on how I should do injects, I suck at math and cant seem to find the best plan to inject 2000mgs of 425mg/ml sledge test and 1 test cyp a week, I have a plan , Im just looking for a better one.
 
2000mg of SledgeTest PLUS some amount of 1-test-cyp? or 2000mg total? And what concentration is the 1-test-cyp?
 
****, HELL NO!
Haha that would be alot of 1 test
its 425mg/ml ST
and 200mg/ml 1 test cyp

2000mgs ST a week
700mgs 1 t a week
 
That's good to know. So you are doing 4.7cc from SledgeTest, and 3.5cc from 1-test-cyp. So if you take 2.75cc thrice weekly, you're all set. Draw ~1.55cc SledgeTest and ~1.15cc 1-test-cyp into the same syringe, then pin.

Why did you decide to use so much SledgeTest in comparison to the 1-test-cyp? As I understand it, a large portion of your gains will come from the 1-test, and that the 4-AD/testosterone plays second fiddle, it is there more to make you feel great rather than being the primary mass builder. If that is so, it would make sense to use just as much SledgeTest as it takes to counter the negatives of the 1-test. Generally a 2:3 ratio works, so if you are taking 1000mg of 1-test-cyp, 1500mg of 4-AD might do the job. What do you think?
 
Hmmm, I like that line of thought, but I was told to do 2000mgs of sledge test in this thread Invalid Link Removed with 700mgs-800mgs of 1 test. Think I should bump it up to 1000 of 1 test? And if you do, would you mind doing that math again. (thanks! Im no good with math)
 
Well, I know that Sledge recommends at least 1200-1400mg weekly of 4-AD-ester (in whatever form), and I'm sure 2000mg will give you good results. I am just telling you that 1-test is the primary mass builder, it wears the pants. 2000mg of 4-AD ON ITS OWN would give you impressive results, since this would surely be equivalent to 500mg per week of test-cyp, you can count on about a 25% conversion 4-AD-->test. So the cycle will work any way you set it up, because you're doing a lot of juice. Just don't think that the 1-test is just there for kicks, it is doing more for you than the 4-AD. Since that is the case, I think it is best to run the 1-test to the sensible level that you want to see serious gains, while not being overwhelmed by lethargy and other side-effects of 1-test. Use the 4-AD to counter that. I can't tell you exactly how badly and how well 1-test will impact you, nor how much 4-AD will work to counter the side-effects. Some people can get away with a 1:1 ratio, some people need a 1:2. You can start out with a 1:1 if you have reason to think you can handle it, e.g. you have taken M1T by itself with no lethargy, otherwise, try a 2:3 ratio to get the most out of your cycle, rather than a 1:2. ... If you just have exactly twice as much 4AD as 1-test and want to use up the whole lot, then I guess 1000mg + 2000mg will work.


If you do 1000mg + 1500mg, then run 5cc of 1-test-cyp per week, and 3.5cc SledgeTest. 1.67 + 1.17cc per week (you can estimate more precisely than the marks on the syringe, that's why I included the extra number for accuracy). If that knocks you on your ass with lethargy, then increase the 4-AD.
 
I am blown away by the amounts of 1-T-CYP people are using. I have used it three times going no higher than 400mg and the results were awesome.
 
Im on 2000mg sledge test, and 700mg 1-test a week. According to sledge he doesn think that going any higher than 800mg/week will yield more results. At least to him he did not seem to notice any difference.
 
Snakebyte: I thought I implied that you could get away with doing less.

Bigswole: What do you mean by awesome? Can you elaborate a little, how did you run it and what did it do for you, objectively and subjectively?
 
Strateg0s said:
Snakebyte: I thought I implied that you could get away with doing less.

Bigswole: What do you mean by awesome? Can you elaborate a little, how did you run it and what did it do for you, objectively and subjectively?

Less 1-test or sledge test? Sledge test, 2000mg a week is only 1500mg 4-ad, which is in the range you said. Also many like the high dosage of 4-ad since they say it is comparable to test cycles, which is why i have it where i do. sledge also said that sledge test is intended to be one cycle in a bottle, so for 10weeks i have 2gs a week of sledge test which seems right.
 
Strateg0s said:
Snakebyte: I thought I implied that you could get away with doing less.

Bigswole: What do you mean by awesome? Can you elaborate a little, how did you run it and what did it do for you, objectively and subjectively?

I ran 300mg of 1-T with 400mg EQ. During that cycle I gained 7 pounds despite dieting and lost about 5% bodyfat. Strength gains were incredible despite being low on calories and doing tons of cardio. I am currently running 400mg 1-T/200mg TestCyp and 400mg EQ. However, it is too soon to make any observations.
 
bigswole30 said:
I ran 300mg of 1-T with 400mg EQ. During that cycle I gained 7 pounds despite dieting and lost about 5% bodyfat. Strength gains were incredible despite being low on calories and doing tons of cardio. I am currently running 400mg 1-T/200mg TestCyp and 400mg EQ. However, it is too soon to make any observations.
Great news to hear about lower doses of 1-T-Cyp being effective.......M1T KICKED MY LETHARGIC ASS, I was planning on running 400mg pw along with 1275mg of ST pw, and might throw in 75mg MDHT ED.
 
hmmm 75mg mdht sounds like alot, since that is even a higher end dose of m5aa which may convert to mdht
 
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