MSTEN + ?

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So I’m planning on running MSTEN in the next couple of months and trying to figure out what would be the better test base. I’m in between 4Andro, Androsterone and Epiandrosterone.

Leaning more towards the first 2 but just wanted to get some opinions. Pinning test is not an option at the moment unfortunately.
 
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4 Andro or Dermacrine are more likely to keep you feeling ok.
 
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Anyone else besides Supreme or Brawn have 4-andro?

Any preference? I imagine supreme I would get it quicker cause powermyself is in Europe if I’m not mistaken. And brawns website doesn’t sell 4Andro?
 
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So here’s what my cycle is looking like so far; still might make some adjustments. Gonna try to eat as much as possible and put on 10-12lbs

VL Msten : week 1-4 20mg
Supreme Labs 4-Andro : week 1-4 300mg


Cycle support :
CEL CYCLE ASSIST
TUDCA 500mg daily (or higher?)


PCT:
Clomid
50/50/50/50
Mtest
SNS Reduce XT

In the stash:
Letro
Ralox


Might add Carditone to control high BP

Thoughts? Trying to keep as much of my gains as possible once I’m done.
 
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you are planning on putting on 10-12 lbs in 4 weeks/?
 
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No, not in the 4 weeks. Should’ve worded it a bit better. I wanna put on 10-12 pounds, period. If I can keep 6-7 pounds from this cycle , great. After this I’m gonna run AE and acouple other things but I don’t wanna get too into that now.

Just wanna see if I’m missing anything for this cycle, pct etc
 
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No, not in the 4 weeks. Should’ve worded it a bit better. I wanna put on 10-12 pounds, period. If I can keep 6-7 pounds from this cycle , great. After this I’m gonna run AE and acouple other things but I don’t wanna get too into that now.

Just wanna see if I’m missing anything for this cycle, pct etc
 
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I’d try and see if I could last 6 weeks but that’s just me. 4 weeks just seems like a short time to make progress and to put your body through that. Just some food for thought.
 
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I was originally thinking 5-6 but a lot of logs here I see people running it for 4 and some people say the gains after 4 weeks are not much.

I definitely wouldn’t mind shooting for 5-6 if my body can take it. I just don’t wanna cause anymore unnecessary damage if it’s not worth it.
 
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If you still can find Trest i would recommend Trest. 40-50mg of oral trestolone every day would be good enough to avoid lethargy, improve libido and give you additional gains. And, of course, dont forget to use AI (anastrozole, exemestane) to avoid estrogen sides.

P.S.: There are several weeks since i cant find Trest anywere. I used to buy Brawn Trest but it seems it is out of stock (i dont know if due to new regulation in England or due to difficulties in find a raw source in China).
 
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If you still can find Trest i would recommend Trest. 40-50mg of oral trestolone every day would be good enough to avoid lethargy, improve libido and give you additional gains. And, of course, dont forget to use AI (anastrozole, exemestane) to avoid estrogen sides.

P.S.: There are several weeks since i cant find Trest anywere. I used to buy Brawn Trest but it seems it is out of stock (i dont know if due to new regulation in England or due to difficulties in find a raw source in China).
So you think it’s a good idea to use an equally lousy short half-life drug like oral Trest over 4Andro, even if it means now needing to run an AI & no appreciable increase in final results?

Interesting thought process...
 

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