Msten

[Jebrook]

Would iron labs cycle support be a good enough support during msten run?

It would suffice, but I recommend adding at least 500 mg of TUDCA. The liver support is what you want plenty of with Msten.

 

[criticalbench]

They actually weren't that high, but I was worried about them and told the doc. Doc actually was pretty smart about and pretty much said a ton of things could raise my AST/ALT levels. Not the doctors exact words but you understand.

Well.. at least you are proactive about your health bro.. good for you. I have to get a hormone panel done again soon.. I still don't feel even 6 months later I have recovered from trest. I am actually started to think it f*cked me for life. It shut me down way to hard.

 

[Jebrook]

Well.. at least you are proactive about your health bro.. good for you. I have to get a hormone panel done again soon.. I still don't feel even 6 months later I have recovered from trest. I am actually started to think it f*cked me for life. It shut me down way to hard.

That sucks. I'm curious what dosage and length of time you were on Trest and which type?

 

[criticalbench]

That sucks. I'm curious what dosage and length of time you were on Trest and which type?

DermaTrest, 25mg AM, 25mg PM for 6 weeks. I followed it with 21 days of HCG at 250iu daily, then 8 weeks of clomid. My HCG and Clomid are pharma grade..

 

[bobi593]

DermaTrest, 25mg AM, 25mg PM for 6 weeks. I followed it with 21 days of HCG at 250iu daily, then 8 weeks of clomid. My HCG and Clomid are pharma grade..

did you test your HCG before you use with pregnant test ? and did you feel any difference after first shot of HCG

 

[unreal89]

better yet run dmz and msten dual compound with dermacrine for base!

 

[demonfox]

Is there any lower back pump associated with msten?

 

[NattyBoy]

Is there any lower back pump associated with msten?

Pretty sure all compounds will give them, just drink alotta agua and buy taurine

 

[Jebrook]

Is there any lower back pump associated with msten?

I get them extremely bad on Msten. Water and Taurine will be your best friends.

 

[NattyBoy]

I get them extremely bad on Msten. Water and Taurine will be your best friends.

Copied me m8 lool

 

[BamBam0319]

Copied me m8 lool

 

[faytrain1]

I've been reading all the logs I can find on this stuff and the gains seem less than spectacular.

 

[bobi593]

I've been reading all the logs I can find on this stuff and the gains seem less than spectacular.

consider that most of the guys run MSTEN only 4 weeks in comparison with DMZ 6 even 8 weeks , which is funny because the toxicity of this PH is probably similar if not he same.

 

[faytrain1]

Trying to decide if I should add this to my stockpile. I've got alpha 20 and sd already. Can't really see how msten compares. I know the sides are less but I don't get any sides from alpha.

 

[bobi593]

Trying to decide if I should add this to my stockpile. I've got alpha 20 and sd already. Can't really see how msten compares. I know the sides are less but I don't get any sides from alpha.

why don't you run them separate higher or longer ?

 

[faytrain1]

I'm not following. Do you think I run them all together?

 

[bobi593]

sorry mate i missed understand you i thought that you are making some super strong stack. not necessary all 3 but two strong together there are some crazy beasts which likes this hardcore stacks, if you thinking of buying MSTEN for future use i would do this and i did . Worst scenario you can always sell this . eventually all methyls disappear from the market USA and EUROPE too. In few years this PH mwill be desirable like phera/m1t/bold and many others today.....

 

[faytrain1]

Yeah I'm probably going to get some more. Can't really afford it right now but I might miss my chance

 

[unreal89]

ive seen 8 week runs of msten with proper care can be a gr8 bulking run

 

[faytrain1]

Better than superdrol? I'm either gonna get more sd or a few more msten. Superdrol is a lot cheaper

 

[unreal89]

superdrol is more toxic more sides acne everywhere id rather bulk with msten!

 

[faytrain1]

I know. I took sd for a few days and slept about 16 hours every day. I'm going to try it again and see if I can power through it

 

[T-Bone]

I know. I took sd for a few days and slept about 16 hours every day. I'm going to try it again and see if I can power through it

Talk about a bad idea.

 

[faytrain1]

What's wrong with that?

 

[T-Bone]

What's wrong with that?

You said you slept 16 hours a day. You responded poorly, but now you are saying you want to use it again and "power through it". Why bother?. SD is crap anyway. It's poison.

 

[dave39]

You said you slept 16 hours a day. You responded poorly, but now you are saying you want to use it again and "power through it". Why bother?. SD is crap anyway. It's poison.

^ This.

 

[faytrain1]

So are you saying I'd be better off bulking with msten? Everyone on here acts like sd is the holy grail

 

[unreal89]

im agreeing that i believe superdrol is poison way worse of sides stick with msten or m1t!

 

[BamBam0319]

im agreeing that i believe superdrol is poison way worse of sides stick with msten or m1t!

How do you know? Have you run it?

 

[unreal89]

ive seen side effects doesnt look as easy as msten ran msten no sides

 

[BamBam0319]

ive seen side effects doesnt look as easy as msten ran msten no sides

Meh I'll run it myself and see how I feel

 

[Pride89]

I've used M-sten twice first time as ultradrol, only at 8mg ED wasnt as powerfull at first thought.

Ran it again a year later at 15mg ED loved it !
The strenght gain is just to fall in love with, hit PR's on a daily basis

Im starting my next cycle in 2 weeks
Trest (transdermal and oral) with Stenadrol (Msten and dimethadrol)
Really looking forward to it !

 

[Jebrook]

I've used M-sten twice first time as ultradrol, only at 8mg ED wasnt as powerfull at first thought.

Ran it again a year later at 15mg ED loved it !
The strenght gain is just to fall in love with, hit PR's on a daily basis

Im starting my next cycle in 2 weeks
Trest (transdermal and oral) with Stenadrol (Msten and dimethadrol)
Really looking forward to it !

That sounds like a fun run. For me personally 20/30 mg is the sweet spot on solo Sten. When stacked I think 15-20 mg is a good starting point.

 

[bobi593]

I've used M-sten twice first time as ultradrol, only at 8mg ED wasnt as powerfull at first thought.

Ran it again a year later at 15mg ED loved it !
The strenght gain is just to fall in love with, hit PR's on a daily basis

Im starting my next cycle in 2 weeks
Trest (transdermal and oral) with Stenadrol (Msten and dimethadrol)
Really looking forward to it !

what was the length of the cycles ?
Btw I would love to see decent log Msten 5-6 weeks solo from experience user who know his things diet/cycling/training etc....

 

[deadlift655]

I personally found it to be just okay. I get far better gains from 1 cap of dmz 2.0 with 10mgs of each compound versus Msten at 20 mgs total. I have taken it with Halodrol and non methyls and found it to be more effective that way.
I still bought a few bottles before the ban.

 

[Pride89]

what was the length of the cycles ?
Btw I would love to see decent log Msten 5-6 weeks solo from experience user who know his things diet/cycling/training etc....

First was 5 weeks the other one was 4 weeks

I would not run msten solo, i did that the first time and lethargy hit me at week 3 and that took some of the fun out of it.

Stacking with trest (last cycle) was the Best i've ever felt in my life, in and out of the gym !

 

[unreal89]

lethargy from my super dmz 3.0 was unbearable w/o a base i hardly even hit the gym this time around got dermacrine

 

[criticalbench]

You said you slept 16 hours a day. You responded poorly, but now you are saying you want to use it again and "power through it". Why bother?. SD is crap anyway. It's poison.

Superdrol has one solid use: It is a freakin solid replacement for Anadrol + Halotestin pre-contest. 3 weeks of 20mg of superdrol is pretty freakin comparable in terms of results and side effects as anadrol and halotestin. Both combos blow you the fuk up, make you crazy dry and vascular.. everything you want precontest.

I'll stick with dbol all day when it comes to bulking or cutting.. less harsh and does a damn good job.

 

[Permabulk95]

Saw that a webiste has IML Msten for 60 dollars now- wondering if its legit, also have super dmz 3.0 and 2.0. Wondering if it was worth picking up.

I just bought some Msten off the same site you are probably referring to for $60 it seems pretty legit and other products I have gotten from that site have been good also

 

[SwoleNation]

Always enjoy reading opinions on the supps I'm interested in. Good thread right here.... Msten is high on my list to try. Would someone mind posting a complete on/off cycle stack (PCT, test base, etc) just for MSten solo run? Thanks.

 

[Jebrook]

Always enjoy reading opinions on the supps I'm interested in. Good thread right here.... Msten is high on my list to try. Would someone mind posting a complete on/off cycle stack (PCT, test base, etc) just for MSten solo run? Thanks.

Msten
20/20/20/20
Dermacrine
4-5 pumps daily or recommended dosage for your body weight. If you have experience stacking, Trest would be a great test base @ 50-100 mg daily, but would add some other concerns to be prepared for.

Arimacare Pro
TUDCA
500 mg daily in addition to the dose in ACP
Joint Support
(Sten is very dry in my experience)

PCT
Nolva
20/20/10/10
Super PCT
Letrone

 

[unreal89]

Super DMZ 3.0 was all dry gains so msten is very dry unless your going for a bulk

 

[clk]

Joedoubledose just did an msten log

 

[bobi593]

Joedoubledose just did an msten log

i think he run DMZ unless it something new....

 

[clk]

i think he run DMZ unless it something new....

You're right. My bad. Had them mixed up

 

[unreal89]

I'll have a DMZ / msten bridge into trenavar 7-8 week cycle log coming pretty soon

 

[georgetown]

Mstens good stuff bench went up about 30 pounds in a recomp gained 8 lb total maybe more, on my last week now. Also lost some bf so those are 8 solid pounds. Ran with epiandro...also good stuff

 

[T-Bone]

Msten
20/20/20/20
Dermacrine
4-5 pumps daily or recommended dosage for your body weight. If you have experience stacking, Trest would be a great test base @ 50-100 mg daily, but would add some other concerns to be prepared for.

Arimacare Pro
TUDCA
500 mg daily in addition to the dose in ACP
Joint Support
(Sten is very dry in my experience)

PCT
Nolva
20/20/10/10
Super PCT
Letrone

 

[SwoleNation]

LOL! Nice.