Unanswered MSTEN/TREST

[Johnnybravo421]

MSTEN- 16/16/16/16/16 (Might try 20 last 2 weeks)(If I dont feel like death Ill add a 6th week)
TD 7 ALPHA ACE (base)- 15/15/20/20/20
CEL CYCLE ASSIST- As Recommended
TUDCA- AS Recommended
(2) cups of Giant’s Milk. Tormund swears by it…..

PCT
NOLVA- 20/20/20/10/10
REDUCE XT- As Recommended
CEL M-TEST- As Recommended
CEL CYCLE ASSIST- ½ of Recommended
TUDCA- AS Recommended

Im looking for some feedback on WHEN to take everything.
My plan is to apply the Trest while getting ready in the morning. 2nd around 5
Msten will be with breakfast. 2nd will be around 5

Is there any benefit to taking the MSTEN PWO or does it not matter?
Should the Trest be done all at once or twice daily? And again does it matter if I take it before or after workout?
Pros and Cons of increasing Trest to 25 and 30?
Anyone ever experience gyno issues at this low of a does?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I feel like 30 mgs per day split into 2 doses 12 hours apart for trest is legit dosing for gains.

I these days I avoid pre work out doses, as it may help enlarge the heart.

 

[Cmseabee24]

I’m on TD trest right now I dose twice a day 30mg each. Also with trest you really don’t need a pwo I feel like I can walk into the gym anytime. It’s an amazing feeling this is my first time using trest and will definitely be using again. I’m also running msten along with it.

 

[Johnnybravo421]

I’m on TD trest right now I dose twice a day 30mg each. Also with trest you really don’t need a pwo I feel like I can walk into the gym anytime. It’s an amazing feeling this is my first time using trest and will definitely be using again. I’m also running msten along with it.

Ive have read that there are some considerable estro sides with trest. Have you expirenced any at that dose? Are you taking an AI?

 

[Cmseabee24]

Haven’t had to use AI yet but I do have on hand and if I need it. I’ve been on it for just over a week so we will see I’m not to gyno prone though. I’m sure at some point I’ll have to use it from what I’ve read.

 

[Matthersby]

That Giant’s Milk is seriously where it’s at!

Buy you aren’t gonna need it because you will be monkey strong on 16/Msten, even moreso on 20/day

 

[Johnnybravo421]

Will applying trest before the gym have PWO effects?
If so at what dosage?

 

[Matthersby]

Will applying trest before the gym have PWO effects?
If so at what dosage?

I believe pwo benefits are a myth.
You of course need to have it dosed near your workout so recovery is enhanced etc.
But think that almost no oral or transdermal “kicks in” in the first week, that shows that the benefit is over time with recovery being the important part. Yes there’s androgenic benefits and aggression, but you start actually “gaining” and increasing in lifted weight once blood levels have finally built up. It’s the recovery that makes you stronger in the gym the next time, and the next etc.

 

[Matthersby]

Will applying trest before the gym have PWO effects?
If so at what dosage?

I believe pwo benefits are a myth.
You of course need to have it dosed near your workout so recovery is enhanced etc.
But think that almost no oral or transdermal “kicks in” in the first week, that shows that the benefit is over time with recovery being the important part. Yes there’s androgenic benefits and aggression, but you start actually “gaining” and increasing in lifted weight once blood levels have finally built up. It’s the recovery that makes you stronger in the gym the next time, and the next etc.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Will applying trest before the gym have PWO effects?
If so at what dosage?

it can have the effect of enlarging your heart. dont PWO steroids

 

[Johnnybravo421]

it can have the effect of enlarging your heart. dont PWO steroids

So dose both the MSTEN and Trest after workout in the morning?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

sure or a few hours before

 

[Johnnybravo421]

sure or a few hours before

Sounds good. Thanks

...and on that day the swole grinches heart grew 3x its normal size

 

[Old Witch]

Well... just the left ventricle.

 

[Renew1]

... Lopsided Swole Grinch.

 

[Johnnybravo421]

LOL not really the look im going for

 

[Johnnybravo421]

I feel like 30 mgs per day split into 2 doses 12 hours apart for trest is legit dosing for gains.

I these days I avoid pre work out doses, as it may help enlarge the heart.

Around hour 9 I can notice a mood and overall "feeling" change. I wouldnt say I feel bad but Im not feeling as good as earlier in the day. Is this like a "come down" from a high? Should I go from 12 hours apart to 10? I am only doing 7.5mg per dose.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

it very well could be an accute effect in some.. the mood enhancing benifits are amazing.
how ever I would continue to split on the 12th hour