Msten run #3

clevelandsae

clevelandsae

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last two were 6 weeks each but that got rough in weeks 5-6. Looking to blast early and then coast in PCT. recomp is goal
Viscous Msten 20/day 4 weeks
Vicous epi andro 600 (i have 3 wks worth but i know they are out now, not sure if i should replace it all together or just run 3 wks)
Tudca 1000/day
CEL cycle assist
Dercramine

PCT - 8 weeks:
nolva 20/day (4-6 weeks)
CEL Anabolic effect
CEL Mtest
Epi-plex

Let me know what you guys thinks! always appreciate you guys being spring board for each others ideas!
 
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clevelandsae said:
last two were 6 weeks each but that got rough in weeks 5-6. Looking to blast early and then coast in PCT. recomp is goal
Viscous Msten 20/day 4 weeks
Vicous epi andro 600 (i have 3 weeks worth but i know they are out now, not sure if i should replace it all together or just run 3 wks. )
Tudca 1000/day
CEL cycle assist
Dercramine
PCT - 8 weeks
CEL Anabolic effect
CEL Mtest
Epi-plex

Let me know what you guys thinks! always appreciate you guys being spring board for each others ideas!
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Potbelly said:
Dude not his first go at this
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Doesn’t matter if it’s his first or his 100 time if he still doing it wrong, he asked what we thing about his cycle and I and the majority will think his cycle is sh*t without a SERM. You seem not to know how to do a proper cycle either if your behind this.
 
clevelandsae said:
here it was from back in January. If its not right play i certainly wont do it.
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i could still be wrong, but i did remember right :p
@GQdaLEGEND am i crazy?
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he seems to be saying that he used it following stano run, not msten?

he also says he always suggests a serm

regardless you don’t run msten (or any decent anabolic) without a serm imo, add that other stuff into pct sure but the serm is what will kickstart your hpta back into gear quick and avoid you losing everything you gained bro......
 
Potbelly said:
Dude not his first go at this
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so what?

doing something wrong a few times doesn’t magically make it right?

the whole point of posting is so people can advise, which is exactly what has happened here. It means he can improve his pct and get better results moving forward. In other words the forum is working beautifully to assist the OP.
 
clevelandsae said:
here it was from back in January. If its not right play i certainly wont do it.
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i could still be wrong, but i did remember right :p
@GQdaLEGEND am i crazy?
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I didn’t read the whole thing but it looks like he ran Stano which is mild (Msten is not) and you could get away with a OTC PCT. So no, a cycle of Stano is not the same thing as a cycle of Msten and have to be treated differently. SERM will be needed.
 
thanks guys, I will certainly incorporate the nolva @20/day. i know just enough to be dangerous and as always appreciate the guidance. I hope you all have a great holiday!
 
Make sure u run serm I like nolva at
40/20/10/10
Natty anabolic and natty pct for 8 weeks is fine

Tudca and oncycle support looks good
 
rowz4broz said:
Make sure u run serm I like nolva at
40/20/10/10
Natty anabolic and natty pct for 8 weeks is fine

Tudca and oncycle support looks good
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thank you sir. i only have done the nolva 20 straight across. starting higher and trailing off is worth considering. thanks!
 
clevelandsae said:
@Resolve10 @booneman77 any adjustments you guys would make?
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Sorry for the late response... 100% you need to run the nolva for an msten cycle. 20/20/10/10/+ (and you can/would be best to go further if you can. Serms have been shown to be most effective at fully recovering natural levels at lower but longer doses)

the cycle itself looks good. If you need more epi andro (3 weeks is a waste IMO) cel stanoplex or muscle addiction epi lean are both great and reasonable to cheap options. Personally I can take msten solo for 8 wks but most will feel much better with a base.

on cycle tudca and a normal cycle support will have you all square.
 
booneman77 said:
Sorry for the late response... 100% you need to run the nolva for an msten cycle. 20/20/10/10/+ (and you can/would be best to go further if you can. Serms have been shown to be most effective at fully recovering natural levels at lower but longer doses)

the cycle itself looks good. If you need more epi andro (3 weeks is a waste IMO) cel stanoplex or muscle addiction epi lean are both great and reasonable to cheap options. Personally I can take msten solo for 8 wks but most will feel much better with a base.

on cycle tudca and a normal cycle support will have you all square.
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Thank you sir! ill keep you all posted!
 
rowz4broz said:
Make sure u run serm I like nolva at
40/20/10/10
Natty anabolic and natty pct for 8 weeks is fine

Tudca and oncycle support looks good
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@clevelandsae sorry kenny mofo rodgers ..i was away on vacation but yes these guys got you covered .. exactly what i meant what everyone suggested.

Stanoplex or andro/sarms is what i suggest an OTC PCT.

serm + Anabolic Effect + -epi ( epi plex or apex TD epi ) .. easy peasy PCT
 
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