Msten/Epilean log

dozercars

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Msten/Epilean log, up 23 pounds on day 24

Im 28 years old almost 29 and a lean 6'2". This is my first post on here and first time doing a ph cycle in about 5 years. Decided to have kids and the ol baby maker worked 3 times after old school superdrol/halodrol etc back in the day but anyway here is what i am up about half way through my 30 day cycle of Assault Labs Msten(120 caps, 4mg) and EPG Epilean(120 caps, 10mg):
-MSten 20/20/20(24 days total)
Epilean:30/30/30/60(30 days total)
-before cycle: 215lbs, 17 5/8" (pumped)arms, 275x6 and 335 max bench on good day.
<day 3: hardness started already
<day 10: up 10 pounds(225) and bench up 20 pounds max, all lifts more reps and pump feeling all day
<day 14: 275x9 and 325x3 bench, 345 pretty easy, not quite confident enough to go for 2 reps yet as i lift alone at home with no spotter
<day 16: 232 body weight and 325x10 squats about the same as 295x10 felt before
<day 17: 18 3/8" arms after lifting pump
<day 19: 234 body weight and weights continue to feel lighter, muscle cramps starting though when arms are in one position to long
<day 21: 236 body weight, 325x5 and 345x3 bench, strength really ramped up this week!
<day 24: 238 body weight, arms same size, pumps are getting so intense its hard to lift, 2-3 reps power outout is way up but after that its like my arms fill with concrete and are gonna pop, Msten is done now, bumping Epilean to 60mg today for a week to try and lock in the gains from the short msten cycle but may stop after 5 days if pumps stay this intense, also my balls are definitely smaller and libido is way down, kinda has me thinking early PCT from that too
<day 28: weight 238, arm size and strength leveled since the msten ran out on day 24, getting ready for pct, libido is way down, energy is down, and endurance is completely shot, im breathing heavy after very little work load, the rock hard body feeling isnt as fun when everything else is shot, 2 more days left of Epilean then pct it is. Overall a GREAT cycle in terms of gains, strength is up nearly 50 pounds on bench and 23 pound gain. Next update will be a week into PCT and follow up with weekly with size and strength retention.

Pct:
- clomid 50/50/25/25
- lacheek ad3
- Nrgxlabs natural pct
- 3g DAA/day
- dhea 50mg twice daily
- continued milk thistle and fish oil
 
No sides other than slight back pumps but taurine keeps that under control and also taking a lot of fish oil, milk thistle, NAC and drinking a gallon plus of water a day, calories are about 500 over the normal before this cycle and shooting for 300grams protein a day, before always got about 200 natty.
*also not a side my body is hard as **** all day, freaking ridiculous. I feel like im lifting all day and wake up at night because my arms fall asleep.
 
Are you taking another on cycle support plus additional milk thistle and NAC or are you just taking those two?
 
Also do you already have your pct lined up?
 
Just taking those 2 plus the fish oil, taurine, lots water.
for PCT i got Lacheek AD3, NRGX natural pct, 3g DAA a day, 50mg DHEA ill take twice daily, and creatine mono. Other than that my normal homemade preworkout contains 400mg resveratrol, 400mg pycnogenol, 400mg grape seed extract for some natty test support. Im usually very horny around the ol lady but i can add to sides now that my libido is down a bit, it's almost like the high from feeling like im gonna burst out of my skin has me thinking about lifting and eating non stop.
 
I know clomid or torem would be much better but i don't know how to get it, the couple research sites ive looked into have mixed reviews of products being bunk to as bad as credit card fraud. My wife use to get clomid for $5 from her doctor, i wish i would have put those in the freezer when we were done. The 4 cycles i did in the past in about 2 years span were ax ergo max lmg/pheraplex/pct 3 bottle stack they sold together in a package. Then superdrol and ax pct, then original halodrol/ax prostanazol stack with ax pct, and finally the original trenadrol with ax pct. I kept gains pretty well in that time, i went from 195 pounds with max bench of 275 to 245 pounds max bench 385 before i quite ph's worrying about my sperm count even though i knocked my wife up about a month after my last cycle and later for our second kid got sperm tested and it was very good.
 
dozercars said:
I know clomid or torem would be much better but i don't know how to get it, the couple research sites ive looked into have mixed reviews of products being bunk to as bad as credit card fraud. My wife use to get clomid for $5 from her doctor, i wish i would have put those in the freezer when we were done.
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I know a few legit sites bro
 
As far as the cycle goes im beyond surprised at a person starting at my body weight with pretty mild dosing on 2 dry compounds how much weight im gaining basically only taking a couple extra protein shakes a day, 17 pounds in 17 days, this is the kinda expactations id have for dbol or m1T
 
Found a place with 2day shipping from bigwigg on either clomid or torem, question is if i do that is the Lacheek AD3 with 75mg arimistane any help to go alongside? or are torem or clomid enough? ill do DAA and dhea regardless as they are dirt cheap
 
70/35/35/35 to much? I figured the one i ordered is 70ml and 35mg clomid per ml so i could get 2 pcts from it using half each time
 
dozercars said:
70/35/35/35 to much? I figured the one i ordered is 70ml and 35mg clomid per ml so i could get 2 pcts from it using half each time
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I'm just guessing but I probably got the same clomid as you did. Easier to taper at 50/50/25/25. Just requires a little bit of math on your part to make up the dosage. I've seen 75/50/25/25 before but there's no reason to go higher than 50.
 
Awesome! Glad you have your pct figured out now!
 
A little worried about the "shrinkage" and lack of libido, the clomid, DAA, and AD3 better work or im gonna have a frustrated mamabear haha, i was younger in my previous cycles but never had the supression like i do now, i can get erections fine yet but just have a dont care attitude about it as of late
 
Interested to see how Epi and PCT treat you. You put in some good work.
 
Thanks! yeah im gonna start it low now, gonna continue heavy eating about 2 weeks into pct then keep the protein up but clean it up a bit
 
Been a while since updating but at about 25 days pct im sitting at 233(-5 from peak) and no strength loss thus far, im eating a bit cleaner and libido is back with a fury haha, im doing a clen cycle for 3 weeks before a mexico trip in February so i may have some losses coming up for that but then im starting a max lmg/alpha 1 bulk cycle after that, im really gunning for a 400+ pound bench press for reps as right now im pretty big and going for more power lifting. After the ban i bought 8 cycles to do over the next 3-4 years bought up so i think it should be doable.
 
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