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Looking for some advice on Msten specifically BL. Gtg?
 
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Yeah, I agree man, I'd get it from ZOO.
But he's already got it.

I'd give it some more time, if I were him.
Yes but he didn’t say he already had it. I would think you would ask if it was good to go before you order it.
 
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have you done msten cycle? Day 8 from BL 20mg with 300mg 4 andro and other than a couple better than normal workouts i don’t notice anything (not even any sides) Also taking organ shield and tudca.
I am on 20mg of sten now day 8 with 75mg of 3ad all vicious products. Currently just looking a little fuller
 
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I’m one week in on VL Msten right now, only running 10mg so far and it is G2G. Strength, fullness and body weight are all steadily going up.
beginning week 3 of 20mg BL msten, Weight is up about 7lbs don’t really have any sides at all. VL msten will be here today. I do like the fact they are 10mg tabs as compared to 20mg for splitting up the dosing. Thinking maybe BL is underdosed or something to do with splitting pill. Unsure.
 

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I’m one week in on VL Msten right now, only running 10mg so far and it is G2G. Strength, fullness and body weight are all steadily going up.
Also been experiencing back pumps past 4 days or so. Going to start supplementing taurine.
 
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beginning week 3 of 20mg BL msten, Weight is up about 7lbs don’t really have any sides at all. VL msten will be here today. I do like the fact they are 10mg tabs as compared to 20mg for splitting up the dosing. Thinking maybe BL is underdosed or something to do with splitting pill. Unsure.
You are up 7lbs in two weeks and you are doubting your drugs???? What did you expect to gain in two weeks? 7lbs in two weeks is fantastic for ANY CYCLE. You are doing well, keep eating to feed the gains and training hard and you will be happy in the end.
 
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Getting all ready for a VL Msten run myself and trying to decide between 4-andro (Iconic Alpha Four) and 4-AD ( Fusion Androtest) to add in to fight lethargy and give a little boost to the gainztrain. If I go with Androtest what would dosage look like stacked with msten? Planning to do msten a few days at 10mg, then bump to 20mg and possibly 30 for weeks 3 and 4.

*EDIT* Also open to non-DHT suggestions to fight lethargy. Don't want to double up on DHTs.
 
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Getting all ready for a VL Msten run myself and trying to decide between 4-andro (Iconic Alpha Four) and 4-AD ( Fusion Androtest) to add in to fight lethargy and give a little boost to the gainztrain. If I go with Androtest what would dosage look like stacked with msten? Planning to do msten a few days at 10mg, then bump to 20mg and possibly 30 for weeks 3 and 4.
I’m doing 300mg of 4 andro.. first part of cycle I used hi tech cause I had it left over and starting today with also 300mg 4 andro but from narrow labs. I’ve heard a lot of good things about them.
 
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I had to scroll up, I totally missed that! :LOL: Have you been dosing the 4 andro at 300mg the whole time along with the msten? What day are you on now and how is your energy level?
 

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I had to scroll up, I totally missed that! :LOL: Have you been dosing the 4 andro at 300mg the whole time along with the msten? What day are you on now and how is your energy level?
yes 300mg. And energy level is exceptionally well. I have to wake up at 4am during the week to lift due to my work schedule. Seems to be fighting lethargy pretty well. Msten was 20/20 and currently week 3 and upped it to 30mg. I honestly didn’t really notice anything until almost week 3. 2nd week I did have better pumps I noticed.
 
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yes 300mg. And energy level is exceptionally well. I have to wake up at 4am during the week to lift due to my work schedule. Seems to be fighting lethargy pretty well. Msten was 20/20 and currently week 3 and upped it to 30mg. I honestly didn’t really notice anything until almost week 3. 2nd week I did have better pumps I noticed.
how long are you planning to run it?
 

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So you're about half way into week 3 now? How's the weight /strength gain? You taking any cycle support etc?
I am up roughly 7lbs. My diet since I started has been very good. Before.. eh. Few days ago I was up to 10lbs. I could probly up the calories but pretty comfortable with it now. Strength has been great and motivation through the roof. Taking tudca, milk thistle, organ shield, and now taurine.
 
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So you're about half way into week 3 now? How's the weight /strength gain? You taking any cycle support etc?
Yes taking 750mg tudca and cel cycle support,Fish oil and taurine. Got a 400 cap bottle 1000mg per cap on amazon for $14. Was up 9lbs at the end of week two . Now looking leaner but still up just under 8lbs. As for strength added about 20 lbs to most lifts aside from delt work.
 
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I am up roughly 7lbs. My diet since I started has been very good. Before.. eh. Few days ago I was up to 10lbs. I could probly up the calories but pretty comfortable with it now. Strength has been great and motivation through the roof. Taking tudca, milk thistle, organ shield, and now taurine.
Are you going to run any test booster along side pct? I’ve used m-test before ordered the diesel test this time and anabolic effect and of course clomid
 
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I’m doing 300mg of 4 andro.. first part of cycle I used hi tech cause I had it left over and starting today with also 300mg 4 andro but from narrow labs. I’ve heard a lot of good things about them.
300mg of 4 Ando is more like the equivalent of 24mg's of Injectable test. It's worthless and don't understand why people even bother buying it.
 
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Cue the guys saying "if you're going to do that you may as well be pinning the real deal"
 

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I’m coming to the end of week 2, planning to go for 3 weeks. I’m going up to 20mg for the final week. I started MK a week before the msten, put on about 5lbs right away then another 10 from the msten. I’m looking ridiculous full right now and getting a lot of attention. I’m pretty inexperienced with anabolics, so I think it’s having a more dramatic effect for me.
 

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Cue the guys saying "if you're going to do that you may as well be pinning the real deal"
Haha, yup classic blanket statement. Everyone’s systems runs a little different though. I’m on TRT but still had to break out the dermacrine on this short run.

My estradiol was pretty low, I had bloods right before starting 12.5 (7.6 -42.6pg/ML).

So all the DHT from the msten and epiandro is hitting me hard right now. Fortunately I had the dermacrine on hand, I am upping HCG and dropping the AI for a few weeks.
 
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300mg of 4 Ando is more like the equivalent of 24mg's of Injectable test. It's worthless and don't understand why people even bother buying it.
Per week or per day??? I know 24mg/day of test makes a HUGE difference. I produce zero endo test and I would take 300mg of 4-dhea any day over nothing. Now something like Alpha Gainz or Iconic's topicals are night and day better than running nothing with a non-aromatizing methyl.

I personally have used 4-dhea as TRT and when you actually get the stuff in the blood stream it works quite well IMO.
 
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How has your appetite been? I know they say lose your appetite on it but I definitely haven’t lol maybe opposite
My appetite has been normal. Been easier to drink water also. Over a gallon a day.
Was a couple days where I felt a little nauseous. It went away
 

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