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Most potent designer currently avilable?

R1187

R1187

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Been out of the loop for a couple years. Back then it was superdrol but the compound has since been banned.

What would you consider the most potent designer currently available.
 
barrymcokiner said:
Lol every one gettin all serious about what I said, total joke- he asked what the most potent ds would be, and I responded. Yippie
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Those probably are all the 3 strongest compounds but they just wouldn't go together due to chem structure and effects that it would have on the body is what they mean
 
Yodambomb;456113mj6 said:
Those probably are all the 3 strongest compounds but they just wouldn't go together due to chem structure and effects that it would have on the body is what they mean
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If you wanted to go balls to the wall why couldn't it be done? Super dmz stacked with the strongest non methyl. Or celtic M1t stacked with tren would be up there also
 
Check out Celtic Labs bro, we have it all and then some.

We have a superdrol prohormone like stated called Celtic Mass, think Halodrol to Turinabol, or Alpha One to M1T.

We have Celtic One(Methyl 1 Androstenediol) ph to M1T, and some new **** we just came out with called M1T Oxime, if you remember appnut's The One or Cel's D-Plex, it was Mestanolone(methyl dht) oxime same concept, you replace the 3 ketone with a 3 hydroxyimine function, at first though to act as a prohormone, but when we did it to dbol and got a vastly different effect were thinking it's working all on it's own. The M1T-Oxime was released less then a month ago we got some logs going on on PHF, but were still compiling user feedback.

We have DMZ(Dymethazine, D-Zine), we have M-sten(Ultradrol, and what the old school Mass Tabs were supposed to be).

We got this stuff called Dimethabold, it's basically Dbol with a 2 methyl group, seems to act more like an Oral potent Bold then dbol does.

We have Dianodrol, which is Dbol Oxime, like states ealier, whole different beast then dbol but surprisingly good reviews as a dry compound that seems to retain the feel good effect of dbol.
 
00S4Boy said:
Check out Celtic Labs bro, we have it all and then some. We have a superdrol prohormone like stated called Celtic Mass, think Halodrol to Turinabol, or Alpha One to M1T. We have Celtic One(Methyl 1 Androstenediol) ph to M1T, and some new **** we just came out with called M1T Oxime, if you remember appnut's The One or Cel's D-Plex, it was Mestanolone(methyl dht) oxime same concept, you replace the 3 ketone with a 3 hydroxyimine function, at first though to act as a prohormone, but when we did it to dbol and got a vastly different effect were thinking it's working all on it's own. The M1T-Oxime was released less then a month ago we got some logs going on on PHF, but were still compiling user feedback. We have DMZ(Dymethazine, D-Zine), we have M-sten(Ultradrol, and what the old school Mass Tabs were supposed to be). We got this stuff called Dimethabold, it's basically Dbol with a 2 methyl group, seems to act more like an Oral potent Bold then dbol does. We have Dianodrol, which is Dbol Oxime, like states ealier, whole different beast then dbol but surprisingly good reviews as a dry compound that seems to retain the feel good effect of dbol.
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Your DMZ is a really good deal .., the trest on the other hand ..., not as much bang for ur buck
 
Yodambomb said:
Your DMZ is a really good deal .., the trest on the other hand ..., not as much bang for ur buck
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Methylstenbolone also a great bargin . Thinking about using the rest of my DMZ at 48mgs which has like 2 weeks worth at that amount and maybe bridging over to the MSten at 20 or maybe 30 for the next 2 weeks after that :)
 
Yodambomb said:
Your DMZ is a really good deal .., the trest on the other hand ..., not as much bang for ur buck
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Trest isn't a stand alone oral it's meant to be stacked it's potent, but it has a very short half life so it needs to be dosed several times a day. Trestoderm would be more of a controlled time release because of the topical absorption, good option for a low dose cruise like hrt with more anabolic capacity or for a test like base for a harsher oral. Trestolone Acetate/Decanoate oil on the other hand can be a standalone compound and blows the ****ing walls off a lot of ****.
 
00S4Boy said:
Trest isn't a stand alone oral it's meant to be stacked it's potent, but it has a very short half life so it needs to be dosed several times a day. Trestoderm would be more of a controlled time release because of the topical absorption, good option for a low dose cruise like hrt with more anabolic capacity or for a test like base for a harsher oral. Trestolone Acetate/Decanoate oil on the other hand can be a standalone compound and blows the ****ing walls off a lot of ****.
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I think that I see what you mean and what I ment about the trest pills are that there dosed lower than normal .., I thought that they were supposed to be dosed at like 25mg per pill
 
00S4Boy said:
Trest isn't a stand alone oral it's meant to be stacked it's potent, but it has a very short half life so it needs to be dosed several times a day. Trestoderm would be more of a controlled time release because of the topical absorption, good option for a low dose cruise like hrt with more anabolic capacity or for a test like base for a harsher oral. Trestolone Acetate/Decanoate oil on the other hand can be a standalone compound and blows the ****ing walls off a lot of ****.
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And is the real trestalone acetate oil illegal or do you have to get it from an RC
 
Yodambomb said:
I think that I see what you mean and what I ment about the trest pills are that there dosed lower than normal .., I thought that they were supposed to be dosed at like 25mg per pill
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No that is honestly foolish. The majority of oral trest is literately in and our of you in about 90 minutes, with the rest of it being out of you in about 3 hours total time, so oral trest dosing should be spaced throughout the day. 10mg caps allows for dosing flexability for the multiple doses needed daily to maintain constant blood levels, with about 50mg daily being average for slight boost(yes people run it higher, i've ran it up to 100mg a day but had bp problems). But with 25mg caps dosing 4ish times a day to maintain blood concentration your putting yourself at already 100mg a day.
 
00S4Boy said:
No that is honestly foolish. The majority of oral trest is literately in and our of you in about 90 minutes, with the rest of it being out of you in about 3 hours total time, so oral trest dosing should be spaced throughout the day. 10mg caps allows for dosing flexability for the multiple doses needed daily to maintain constant blood levels, with about 50mg daily being average for slight boost(yes people run it higher, i've ran it up to 100mg a day but had bp problems). But with 25mg caps dosing 4ish times a day to maintain blood concentration your putting yourself at already 100mg a day.
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Yeah I figured that 50mgs per day is plenty . Didn't know if injectable trest is stronger or not
 
00S4Boy said:
No that is honestly foolish. The majority of oral trest is literately in and our of you in about 90 minutes, with the rest of it being out of you in about 3 hours total time, so oral trest dosing should be spaced throughout the day. 10mg caps allows for dosing flexability for the multiple doses needed daily to maintain constant blood levels, with about 50mg daily being average for slight boost(yes people run it higher, i've ran it up to 100mg a day but had bp problems). But with 25mg caps dosing 4ish times a day to maintain blood concentration your putting yourself at already 100mg a day.
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We created oral TR3ST with just that in mind. A majority of our users prefer to take a huge dose of oral trest pwo and then stack the DermaTrest in therefore it isn't foolish at all; we're trying to get people to stack DermaTREST with oral TR3ST whereas it seems as if people are encouraged to take either trestobol or just trestoderm so there isn't much flexibility there at all.
 
00S4Boy said:
No that is honestly foolish. The majority of oral trest is literately in and our of you in about 90 minutes, with the rest of it being out of you in about 3 hours total time, so oral trest dosing should be spaced throughout the day. 10mg caps allows for dosing flexability for the multiple doses needed daily to maintain constant blood levels, with about 50mg daily being average for slight boost(yes people run it higher, i've ran it up to 100mg a day but had bp problems). But with 25mg caps dosing 4ish times a day to maintain blood concentration your putting yourself at already 100mg a day.
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Foolish? Meh, not foolish. The half-life of Trestolone is in fact short like you said but does the half-life effect the actions put in motion once the hormone has been bound to the androgen receptor? No, not even a little bit. Once bound the effect is carried out either way. Even if a compound has a half-life of 5 minutes, as long as it has enough time to bind with the receptors to set in motion the desired effects it's done its job. Now, is more circulating hormone ideal to continue the response? Of course but as you guys have seen with Trestobol the pure potency of the hormone seems to mitigate its shortcomings in regards to half-life.

I would say that a pretty good majority of the logs I have seen were ran anywhere from 50-75 mg. If ran at 50, one morning dose of 25 and a preworkout dose of 25 has given our users phenomenal results. If it were to be ran at 75 mg one AM, one Pre and one later in the day, I highly doubt that any unbiased user would notice even a slight difference. The same could be said with use at 50 in either 25 or 10 mg caps. Specifically due to the potency of the hormone itself.

In the end it all boils down to what the customer decides is better for them. I've seen logs ran using Trestobol where users wished they had more per cap because they were going through a bottle so quickly and I'm sure there are those that desire a smaller dose per cap.

Like Celtic, we Olympus Labs have made up for the short half-life via a TD matrix. That way users can have a steady diffusion of hormone through the skin and pick up a bottle of 25 mg TR3ST for the preworkout rush that Trestolone is known for. We're like cell phone companies, Celtic has the Framily Plan and Olympus has the 8 GB data split between four or some **** lol. Yes, at times we're like Samsung and Apple (iPhone vs Galaxy) lmao but ultimately it's about the consumer. All these dudes asking questions in here, benefit from options =)

Serious question, has Trestobol 2.0 dropped yet? I'm curious to see what you guys come up with for extended hormone circulation.
 
Olympus Labs said:
We created oral TR3ST with just that in mind. A majority of our users prefer to take a huge dose of oral trest pwo and then stack the DermaTrest in therefore it isn't foolish at all; we're trying to get people to stack DermaTREST with oral TR3ST whereas it seems as if people are encouraged to take either trestobol or just trestoderm so there isn't much flexibility there at all.
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If your dosing a large dose pwo and using a dermal for slow release then yes it is fine at 25mg a cap, but for people who risk cross contamination using a dermal the lower dose individual caps make it easier to spread out dosing. Sorry that that sounded like a stab, it was just my personal opinion.

Spaniard said:
Foolish? Meh, not foolish. The half-life of Trestolone is in fact short like you said but does the half-life effect the actions put in motion once the hormone has been bound to the androgen receptor? No, not even a little bit. Once bound the effect is carried out either way. Even if a compound has a half-life of 5 minutes, as long as it has enough time to bind with the receptors to set in motion the desired effects it's done its job. Now, is more circulating hormone ideal to continue the response? Of course but as you guys have seen with Trestobol the pure potency of the hormone seems to mitigate its shortcomings in regards to half-life.

I would say that a pretty good majority of the logs I have seen were ran anywhere from 50-75 mg. If ran at 50, one morning dose of 25 and a preworkout dose of 25 has given our users phenomenal results. If it were to be ran at 75 mg one AM, one Pre and one later in the day, I highly doubt that any unbiased user would notice even a slight difference. The same could be said with use at 50 in either 25 or 10 mg caps. Specifically due to the potency of the hormone itself.

In the end it all boils down to what the customer decides is better for them. I've seen logs ran using Trestobol where users wished they had more per cap because they were going through a bottle so quickly and I'm sure there are those that desire a smaller dose per cap.

Like Celtic, we Olympus Labs have made up for the short half-life via a TD matrix. That way users can have a steady diffusion of hormone through the skin and pick up a bottle of 25 mg TR3ST for the preworkout rush that Trestolone is known for. We're like cell phone companies, Celtic has the Framily Plan and Olympus has the 8 GB data split between four or some **** lol. Yes, at times we're like Samsung and Apple (iPhone vs Galaxy) lmao but ultimately it's about the consumer. All these dudes asking questions in here, benefit from options =)

Serious question, has Trestobol 2.0 dropped yet? I'm curious to see what you guys come up with for extended hormone circulation.
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While yes the effects of the hormone still play out high single dosing will get more binding because yes we never actually saturate every possible androgen receptor but for what ever doesn't bind, and it doesn't bind to shbg to be released later it's just being metabolized inert. I just feel like aside from a pwo large dose, if your dosing large your just metabolizing more compound inert that could have had a better chance binding if it was in a separate dose.

Kind of like with a transdermal carrier, if you have an extremely high concentration there is a greater potential for more compound to not pass through your skin. Rough example not actual mathematical figure's, Trestoderm, if we dosed it 100mg/ml vs 50mg a ml, when you applied that 100mg/ml you end up getting 60mg into your actual blood stream, while dosing 50mg/ml due to being spread more for better absprotion you get 40mg into the blood stream, so two doses of 50mg/ml would = 80mg into the blood over 1 dose of 100mg/ml getting 60mg into the blood. It's all really a game of balances.

As for Trestobol 2.0 I think there was a miscommunication with our source for the raw's and what our plan of attack for trestobol 2.0 was, so I think it's currently on hold.
 
00S4Boy said:
No just Oral Trestolone that was supposed to have better absorption then plain old Trest Ace and filler.
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Don't encourage Jbryand101b lol
 
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