BarryBondsHOF
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Interested to hear, what’s the craziest cycles/dosages you’ve ever heard? I once had a friend take Superdrol for 12 straight weeks and don’t think he ever dipped below 20 mg
Most Crazy Cycle
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BarryBondsHOF
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Cool to have a vet comment on this! I hope to aspire to do something more “adventurous” one day. I’ve only done a few basic things and just started my first orals, lol. You’ve been on here since I started Kindergarten
mixedup
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Cool to have a vet comment on this! I hope to aspire to do something more “adventurous” one day. I’ve only done a few basic things and just started my first orals, lol. You’ve been on here since I started Kindergarten
Any questions just ask I'm happy to help
Hyde
Legend
Paul Carter was on the Gear’d Up podcast a while back saying when he was trying to compete in high level powerlifting and he felt a lot of it boiled down to how much sh!t you could handle to take. He said the Russians were said to take a gram of test for every 100lbs of bodyweight as the foundation of their usage - you weight 280 you’re taking 2.8 grams/wk lol
But that’s just heresay; he said he did know a guy he wouldn’t name taking 1g EACH of Test & Tren weekly, plus 100mg each of Anavar, Anadrol, Winstrol, & Halotestin. Which is just terrifying, but dead serious. I’m not sure if that guy is still alive. I know I have heard real stories of guys taking a lot of tren and one going into arrhythmia in the gym and being carried out dead on a stretcher by EMTs.
Gotta protect your heart - the juice has gotta be worth the squeeze, and you can’t lift in a body bag.
But that’s just heresay; he said he did know a guy he wouldn’t name taking 1g EACH of Test & Tren weekly, plus 100mg each of Anavar, Anadrol, Winstrol, & Halotestin. Which is just terrifying, but dead serious. I’m not sure if that guy is still alive. I know I have heard real stories of guys taking a lot of tren and one going into arrhythmia in the gym and being carried out dead on a stretcher by EMTs.
Gotta protect your heart - the juice has gotta be worth the squeeze, and you can’t lift in a body bag.
mikeymike85
Well-known member
IMO there is no reason to do such crazy amounts. I've seen amazing results numerous times off 75mg Halo/ 30-45 mg DMZ with 75 mg VAR. Jeopardizing your health for some psychological crazy amount of steriod is pointless. And I've ran 20 plus cycles. You must be 20 years old.
Hyde
Legend
Who are you talking to?
And yes, people forget about the law of diminishing returns - I’ve heard the rule of thumb is for every time you DOUBLE your gear dose, you can get maybe 20-30% more gains. But the sides become terrible. More isn’t always better, that’s for sure
There are men who have won WSM on 500mg test and some dbol, and there are guys who wake up to a handful of loaded syringes every morning. The latter don’t live as long, generally.
BarryBondsHOF
Member
21. I was just curious to hear others stories as I find them pretty interesting, honestly. I’ve only done test, and am currently doing my first orals now. I was using 30mg of M-Sten with 60mg of DMZ. But, lowered them both to 20/40. I don’t think running higher did anything more for the two weeks I did
Alan1
Member
Of course this discussion wouldn't be complete without at least mentioning one of the OG's of nutty cycles, Paul Borresen. Known to have said something to the effect of "things start to happen at 5,000mg/wk", and advocated short, high dose cycles such as:
Days 1-10: 1,000mg Sustanon/day
Days 11-20: 600mg prop/day, 400mg primo/day, 800mg deca/day
Days 21-30: 200mg winstrol/day, 400mg prop/day + T3, insulin, and DNP.
Guaranteed to take you from zero to hero in 30 days flat! Or possibly, from living n' thriving to quivering n' dying.....
Days 1-10: 1,000mg Sustanon/day
Days 11-20: 600mg prop/day, 400mg primo/day, 800mg deca/day
Days 21-30: 200mg winstrol/day, 400mg prop/day + T3, insulin, and DNP.
Guaranteed to take you from zero to hero in 30 days flat! Or possibly, from living n' thriving to quivering n' dying.....
Hyde
Legend
Of course this discussion wouldn't be complete without at least mentioning one of the OG's of nutty cycles, Paul Borresen. Known to have said something to the effect of "things start to happen at 5,000mg/wk", and advocated short, high dose cycles such as:
Days 1-10: 1,000mg Sustanon/day
Days 11-20: 600mg prop/day, 400mg primo/day, 800mg deca/day
Days 21-30: 200mg winstrol/day, 400mg prop/day + T3, insulin, and DNP.
Guaranteed to take you from zero to hero in 30 days flat! Or possibly, from living n' thriving to quivering n' dying.....
What a waste of money and health. It doesn’t add up at all. The deca is going to have you on cycle still for 2 weeks after the last Prop shot, with no test.
Also, wtf is DNP and deca even doing in the same cycle? Was he trying to diet or grow with this? Forget the insane dosages, the cycle just makes absolutely zero sense.
BarryBondsHOF
Member
I don’t know enough to really comment on what he was trying to do, but my only theory would be: was he trying to hope they would have some effect together that’d cause a bunch of lean tissue growth while having massive fat loss at those dosages???? Don’t know if synergistic would even be the right word, but he must’ve thought some massive muscle and fat loss effect would be caused. Trying to have his cake and eat it too sort of thing
Matthersby
Well-known member
Most guys that are on here and still alive, run relatively responsible cycles. I’ve never seen a need to run crazy amounts of gear when you get phenomenal results from just small amounts and disciplined training and dieting.
But,
In 2014 I ran
Sust @800/week 1-14
Deca 600/week 1-14
Dbol @40/day 1-5
Superdrol 20/day 10-14
To most, that’s nothing crazy. But I gained so much damn size and strength in 14 weeks, I was unrecognizable.
However after hcg week6-12, a thorough as hell pct and 2 restart attempts, my natural test never got over 400 again.
Crazy cycles are for when you blast and cruise, or are ready to go on TRT.
But,
In 2014 I ran
Sust @800/week 1-14
Deca 600/week 1-14
Dbol @40/day 1-5
Superdrol 20/day 10-14
To most, that’s nothing crazy. But I gained so much damn size and strength in 14 weeks, I was unrecognizable.
However after hcg week6-12, a thorough as hell pct and 2 restart attempts, my natural test never got over 400 again.
Crazy cycles are for when you blast and cruise, or are ready to go on TRT.
BarryBondsHOF
Member
I’m sorry your test never recovered, I hope you’re alright now if you’re on TRT. I’m glad that it seems like everyone on here promotes safe cycles. I don’t think I’m bold enough honestly to ever do something truly “crazy”, maybe one day. Good to see another Phoenix member!
Davy25
Active member
Now this is a smart man. No need to run “crazy” cycles but im really surprised nobody has mentioned boston lloyd yet? Thats obviously the most reckless cycle ever ran before. I like my life, im happy, and i dont want to die therefore i have no intention of running a cycle that could even POSSIBLY kill me. To do anything “crazy” you have to be somewhat suicidal.
Old Witch
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Bostin Loyd is the prime example of what not to do. Dude was using EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK at huge does and still barely came in looking like a buff natty. What a waste of time and money and health.
Rich Piana is an example of what is possible with a lot of experience and knowledge. He did build his way up to those doses and had very minimal coronary artery disease. He died of a ventricular fibrillation and hypoxic brain damage resulting from 20 minutes of not breathing after the fibrillation. He had a normal heart attack like any 46 year old could have had. Not a crazy bodybuilder steroid cholesterol clog like everyone thinks. He died because the paramedics did not arrive soon enough. His girlfriend gave CPR but she was not strong enough to start his heart through his massive chest. The paramedics' defibrillator worked and started his heart, too late. He was basically already dead. he spent 18 days in the hospital and developed sepsis (from the hospital) and had to be taken off life support and finally let go.
He would have lived through that heart attack if help had arrived sooner.
I strongly suggest anyone the size of Rich or any of the other really big boys invest in a home defibrillator. It could save your life.
Rich Piana is an example of what is possible with a lot of experience and knowledge. He did build his way up to those doses and had very minimal coronary artery disease. He died of a ventricular fibrillation and hypoxic brain damage resulting from 20 minutes of not breathing after the fibrillation. He had a normal heart attack like any 46 year old could have had. Not a crazy bodybuilder steroid cholesterol clog like everyone thinks. He died because the paramedics did not arrive soon enough. His girlfriend gave CPR but she was not strong enough to start his heart through his massive chest. The paramedics' defibrillator worked and started his heart, too late. He was basically already dead. he spent 18 days in the hospital and developed sepsis (from the hospital) and had to be taken off life support and finally let go.
He would have lived through that heart attack if help had arrived sooner.
I strongly suggest anyone the size of Rich or any of the other really big boys invest in a home defibrillator. It could save your life.
Davy25
Active member
Didnt he die because he hit his head in a counter after having a heart attack after doing coke?
Steeleydan
Member
Reading this raised my blood pressure and bout gave me a full blown panic attack
Edit: the Paul Borreson cycle, dont know how to directly reply to a specific post haha
Edit: the Paul Borreson cycle, dont know how to directly reply to a specific post haha
Old Witch
Well-known member
He had a heart attack while getting a haircut. Coroner found no sign of injury, findings were consistent with hypoxic brain damage, sepsis.
BarryBondsHOF
Member
I think his recreational drug usage is what killed him. Had he not died, I think his anabolic abuse would’ve most certainly shortened his life to some degree. Say it was in his genetics to live on average from 75-85, he probably would’ve made it to 65
Old Witch
Well-known member
And yet a normal size heart can do the exact same thing, Coke or no Coke, gear or no gear. Vfib is something that could happen to any 46 year old man.
Rich only died because help was not there in time. Period.
mixedup
Well-known member
That's why I'm glad I have a defibrillator installed
Matthersby
Well-known member
I just love how he will use dirty slin pins over and over again until the needle finally snaps off. Cheap, dirty, mutherfcker.
Old Witch
Well-known member
He also said he stopped buying vials of AAS and just ordered the nonsterile semi finished raw oil from China and pins that from just an open container.
Dirty, nasty, stupid, little kid.
bigbeaph
Well-known member
What?.....I haven't heard this yet. Dont understand how hes still running around.