More Tren, Less Test

LukeHobbs

LukeHobbs

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I’ve heard that running your Tren at higher doses than your test is the right idea because both compounds fight for the same receptors. This will cause for much better results. Is this true and can anyone shed some more light on this theory?
 
Meh, receptor reshmeptor.

The idea behind higher tren/lower test is to drastically minimise sides and have a much more enjoyable cycle.
 
Well, generally speaking, the more test you run the more potential for estrogenic sides and whatnot. Its high e2 that will be the main player with gyno issues (which tren is reknown for), not prolactin. For most guys, caber/prami becomes uneccessary if e2 is controlled.

Much easier to control sides with a low/trt dose of test. High test seems to accentuate all the "bad" aspects of tren.

Plus, you just dont need a 400mg+ weekly dose of test to see the benefits of tren at 300mg+.

Most guys I see who advocate high test with tren also favour stuff like deca, and dbol. So, they dont mind sloppy wet gains. Ugh, fuk that.

Google search "Atominis guide to tren". The OP is excellent.
 
I've decided to always keep my test around 300 from now on while running other things like tren deca or whatever else you may be taking. There really is no need for super high levels of test. Just enough to keep test in your system so you don't have problems when the other stuff stops your natural production. Yes I know 300 a week is still way above a trt dose but I like it alittle higher then that. I really have no sides with the doses I take. The more you take the more likely you are to have sides. I'm actually taking 350 a week test p and 350 a week tren ace right now. Just finished my injecable anadrol 50 last week. In another two weeks I'll add my winny and the last 6 weeks I'll throw in my masterone.
 
I always run my test 100mg-150mg and run the tren ace high like 75mg a day or if it's enthanate 400mg -600mg . I like this because my hair got eaten up injecting 500mg test only cycle my first cycle . But some how grew back fine after cycle , it might have been cuz I shocked my body with the first cycle lol. Plus low test helps me not retain water and I don't like having to take arimidex so much because I don't wanna kill my estrogen . Try it out , the only thing that tren messes me up on is my sleep, but I found that IGF LR3 helps me out with that side effect
 
Nac said:
Well, generally speaking, the more test you run the more potential for estrogenic sides and whatnot. Its high e2 that will be the main player with gyno issues (which tren is reknown for), not prolactin. For most guys, caber/prami becomes uneccessary if e2 is controlled.

Much easier to control sides with a low/trt dose of test. High test seems to accentuate all the "bad" aspects of tren.

Plus, you just dont need a 400mg+ weekly dose of test to see the benefits of tren at 300mg+.

Most guys I see who advocate high test with tren also favour stuff like deca, and dbol. So, they dont mind sloppy wet gains. Ugh, fuk that.

Google search "Atominis guide to tren". The OP is excellent.
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I realize NAC only likes NPP but Deca is way better and Dbol me all day strong lol. NAC is exactly correct when using potent AAS let the big hitter do all the lifting and just add enough Test to feel good. If you disagree, I have found that having Test just 50mg lower that Deca/NPP/Tren/Dynabol makes a world of diff. I Still think the high Test 500mg+ has it's place but it's only when Test is the big hitter and your just adding Mast/SD/Winstrol as secondary compounds.

Stickyseeds said:
I've decided to always keep my test around 300 from now on while running other things like tren deca or whatever else you may be taking. There really is no need for super high levels of test. Just enough to keep test in your system so you don't have problems when the other stuff stops your natural production. Yes I know 300 a week is still way above a trt dose but I like it alittle higher then that. I really have no sides with the doses I take. The more you take the more likely you are to have sides. I'm actually taking 350 a week test p and 350 a week tren ace right now. Just finished my injecable anadrol 50 last week. In another two weeks I'll add my winny and the last 6 weeks I'll throw in my masterone.
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I used to have the exact same opinion and over years stuck to it with great results. I am trying to open my mind to lower amounts when replaced with a DHT derivative. 300 has worked great but if I can go as low as 0 then the less gear the better.
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
I realize NAC only likes NPP but Deca is way better and Dbol me all day strong lol.
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I usually detest being an absolutist. I guess for me the deca vs NPP thing has an element of "well deca always gets the love, NPP can be equally as 'good' but it is only rarely suggested". Youve obviously tried both and can compare firsthand, I wish more younger guys would be in the same boat but its usually deca!deca!deca!
 
Nac said:
I usually detest being an absolutist. I guess for me the deca vs NPP thing has an element of "well deca always gets the love, NPP can be equally as 'good' but it is only rarely suggested". Youve obviously tried both and can compare firsthand, I wish more younger guys would be in the same boat but its usually deca!deca!deca!
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The truth is your right too many ppl know nandro just as Deca. Honestly I think they both have their uses. Nobody says Tren A is **** but Tren E is bomb. Personally when the cycle calls for it I prefer Dynabol, there is something in my body that responds better to the Cyp ester, and when I write Dynabol most ppl think I'm talking about Dbol
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
The truth is your right too many ppl know nandro just as Deca. Honestly I think they both have their uses. Nobody says Tren A is **** but Tren E is bomb. Personally when the cycle calls for it I prefer Dynabol, there is something in my body that responds better to the Cyp ester, and when I write Dynabol most ppl think I'm talking about Dbol
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That's funny I'm the opposite I much prefer tren ace. Except having to inject everyday. I like all the quicker esters better. That being said I am about to get deca over the npp. The npp is only 100mg per ml and the deca is 300mg per ml and the price is very similar. Just seems more worth it for the dose right now. If I had the extra dough it would be a different story
 
LukeHobbs said:
I’ve heard that running your Tren at higher doses than your test is the right idea because both compounds fight for the same receptors. This will cause for much better results. Is this true and can anyone shed some more light on this theory?
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Of course tren is gonna be the more powerful compound. Don't run tren if youre New to steroids. It can really change you in a bad way.
 
Stickyseeds said:
That's funny I'm the opposite I much prefer tren ace. Except having to inject everyday. I like all the quicker esters better. That being said I am about to get deca over the npp. The npp is only 100mg per ml and the deca is 300mg per ml and the price is very similar. Just seems more worth it for the dose right now. If I had the extra dough it would be a different story
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I'm just saying that diff estered coumpounds all have their place. Many ppl run low HPTA shutdown, 6 week cycles with 6 week off and 6 back on. If you were running that style you would reach for NPP or Tren A regardless of the price because that is what your routine calls for. I would never run Tren E without running Ace for at least a weak. You never know how your cocktail of compounds is going to react to the hormones that are running in your body at the time.

Stupid ppl say Ive ran it at 400mg so I can run it at 500mg no problem. Meanwhile their BP is high,lipids are trashed, and kidneys are giving out. Just because you or someone else did it 1 time dosent mean it will be the same
 
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