MOHT -dosages, what results to expect???

[shyboy]

Ok, since MOHT is looking like a reality from DS & Custom soon, anybody got any ideas on:
-Dosages (Sledge suggested maybe 20 mg/day)
-Results to expect??
I've heard very lean, dry gains, increased libido, very minimal estrogen conversion, increased energy/strenght.
-Can it be used in an oral solution (peg or olive oil) or transdermal?

Anybody got any ideas?? I (like everyone it seems) is really interested in MOHT as an add-on to a stack (say MOHN or something along those lines).

thanks in advance.....

 

[Brodus]

Oral solution is the only way to go, as it will be a powder.

Methyls are designed for oral administration...a transdermal would waste the product.

I've heard that M4OHT would be excellent for tapering off a long, hard cycle. It was originally touted as a bridge androgen, the holy grail, but it supresses HTPA too much to be used as a bridge between cycles.

Sledge is the man to ask re: dosages. I know 4OHT doesn't need to be dosed very high, so 20mg. sounds about right to start.

To my knowledge there is NO estr conversion, and OHT is a mild-anti Est.

Expect dry, lean gains, but not much-->it's more of a stacking agent than the base of a cycle. It should also deliver strength increases, but nothing in the neighorhood of M5AA.





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[lancelot]

In terms of it's effects, MOHT sounds similar to MOHN. So, which one is better? i don't want to stock up on 2 similar products if i don't have to.

 

[ersatz]

In terms of it's effects, MOHT sounds similar to MOHN. So, which one is better? i don't want to stock up on 2 similar products if i don't have to.

MOHT will produce less gains in mass and probably strength but it will also have less chance of hairloss and has the added benefit of being a mild anti-e. It really depends on what you will be stacking it with. If stacking with say M14ADD I would go with the MOHT. If you are prone to sides like gyno or hairloss go with MOHT, otherwise go for whichever one will give you the most bang for the buck.

 

[lancelot]

If stacking with say M14ADD I would go with the MOHT. If you are prone to sides like gyno or hairloss go with MOHT,.

good idea. i was going to run M14ADD with MOHN on my next cycle, but MOHT sounds better in terms of controlling the dam bloat. i guess i'll have to pick up some MOHT now. jesus, it never stops. i'm glad the ban is coming soon or i be bankrupted. jk!

 

[shyboy]

good idea. i was going to run M14ADD with MOHN on my next cycle, but MOHT sounds better in terms of controlling the dam bloat. i guess i'll have to pick up some MOHT now. jesus, it never stops. i'm glad the ban is coming soon or i be bankrupted. jk!

If you havent already, check out Designer's site for recommendations for stacks. Dont get caught up in the new "gotta have it before the ban" craze. Everyone seems to be going out of control lately & not really thinking about what is best for THEM, not everyone else.
M14add & Mohn is a good mass builder for me. (M5AA is good for eliminating bloat.) I've personally added regular 4oht to my S1+ and really liked it (girlfriend too). I was just wondering if Moht is that much better than regular 4oht.

 

[Longdog]

Don't expect much in terms of mass from M4OHT. It will be easy on the HPTA, & provide very mild gains alone. It'll likely be a great stacking agent, but alone may be so mild, it could almost be considered an anti-catabolic as opposed to an anabolic. There is talk that it may not really shut down the HPTA at all & can be used as a bridge. I will have to see blood work before I buy into that, but I am intrigued.

 

[Manu20]

I was wanting to add 4oht to my upcoming m4ohn and 1test cutting cycle...do you think m-4oht would be better to add as opposed to the 4oht...plus I think it would be cheaper for me.