Mini "healthy" summer blast? Opinions

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It's that time again. All year cruise on 150 mgs of test. From June thru August I like to do a nice little summer blast. Need help picking the best option for me this year. Want something that won't be harsh on my lipids, hairline, or bp. Small doses nothing crazy by any means. I grow pretty good on low doses.

What I have on hand:
Test c
Npp
Mast e
Anavar
Cut stack - test p, mast p, tren a

Here's a few options I'm thinking.
1. Test 200mg mast 200mg possible anavar

2. Test 200 npp 200 anavar 25 mg

3. Cust stack 150 mg of each.

Any other ideas post below. Some things to note

Red blood count has been high but just recently got it under control so got to keep out for that.

Bp needs to be maintained

Last time I ran anavar caused me gastritis from the reflux. So weary of that

Also I know a lot of these compounds cause shedding but want to keep that to a minimal so hoping low doses can help keep it at bay.

Trying to be healthier these days instead of just blasting ton of gear.

Also a full time firefighter so will be working fires I'm hot summer days so don't want my cardio hindered
 
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My favorite blast was 450mg test along with 400mg Masteron. Was actually just discussing it with someone a few mins ago. My TRT dose that puts me at upper normal range is 200 mg so you may not need to go quite as high as I did. I went with the 450 partially out of convivence. 200 mg/ml TRT vial and 250 mg/ml UG vial. It worked out great though. I felt super and didn't see any negative sides. Have you ran mast before? If your not at a high bodyfat that stuff will likely have your veins popping out in places you never seen veins. LOL! Thanks for being a firefighter! You guys are underappreciated.
 

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My favorite blast was 450mg test along with 400mg Masteron. Was actually just discussing it with someone a few mins ago. My TRT dose that puts me at upper normal range is 200 mg so you may not need to go quite as high as I did. I went with the 450 partially out of convivence. 200 mg/ml TRT vial and 250 mg/ml UG vial. It worked out great though. I felt super and didn't see any negative sides. Have you ran mast before? If your not at a high bodyfat that stuff will likely have your veins popping out in places you never seen veins. LOL! Thanks for being a firefighter! You guys are underappreciated.
Thanks brotha appreciate it. Proh around 10 to 12 percent bf right now. Leaning mostly towards that. Maybe 250 test 200 mast and some var. Will 200 mast be worth it? Don't wanna push it too much due to hair loss
 
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Thanks brotha appreciate it. Proh around 10 to 12 percent bf right now. Leaning mostly towards that. Maybe 250 test 200 mast and some var. Will 200 mast be worth it? Don't wanna push it too much due to hair loss
I was 44 with already thinning hair and for me 400mg of mast didn't seem to make any difference in the thinning. Besides that's what hats are for. :)
 
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I love Mast or Primo with Test and finish with Anavar. Even at my age, I stay healthy on that blast.😎
 
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I love Mast or Primo with Test and finish with Anavar. Even at my age, I stay healthy on that blast.😎
One of these days I'm going to have to try this Anavar everyone raves about. Haha LOL!
 

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I love Mast or Primo with Test and finish with Anavar. Even at my age, I stay healthy on that blast.😎
Thanks boss yea seems ill got that route. How long should I run 25 mg anavar for. Want my total blast to be 12 weeks. So prob 250 test 300 mast e then var
 

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Thanks leaning same. What dosages do you think would be good? What I have alright or should I boost up more
Im doing 500 Test and 400 Mast right now, 600 was a little high for me (my knees and joint started to ache). Will add Tbol next week. I feel/look great, I’m eating more but are at the same weight and clothes is getting tighter and strength is going up.

It’s up to you but I would go a little higher than what you already do so at least 300 of each so you get a little boost over the summer. Anavar at 50mg Ed is good to start with, raise in the end if needed.
 
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Thanks boss yea seems ill got that route. How long should I run 25 mg anavar for. Want my total blast to be 12 weeks. So prob 250 test 300 mast e then var
I like 400 test 400 mast and last 4 weeks var at 50, but if you only go 25 on var, you could probably do 6 weeks. I’ve never ran Anavar that low, but it’s great at 50.
 

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I like 400 test 400 mast and last 4 weeks var at 50, but if you only go 25 on var, you could probably do 6 weeks. I’ve never ran Anavar that low, but it’s great at 50.
Yea feel like tren is out. Not sure it would be wise to take tren and working in a fire on a summer day.

Guess I'm between 200 test 200 mast 200 npp

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Test 300 mast 300 and add var.
 
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If it's health > results, the option that doesn't include a 19nor/nandrolone will most likely be the better option.
 
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Yea feel like tren is out. Not sure it would be wise to take tren and working in a fire on a summer day.

Guess I'm between 200 test 200 mast 200 npp

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Test 300 mast 300 and add var.
If you cramp bad on Var that could be harder to manage with fighting fires moving under load, but if the dose you will use treats you fine that’s the better option than NPP. You also have more total mg in the bottom stack.
 
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Yea feel like tren is out. Not sure it would be wise to take tren and working in a fire on a summer day.

Guess I'm between 200 test 200 mast 200 npp

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Test 300 mast 300 and add var.
If you cramp bad on Var that could be harder to manage with fighting fires moving under load, but if the dose you will use treats you fine that’s the better option than NPP. You also have more total mg in the bottom stack.
 

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If it's health > results, the option that doesn't include a 19nor/nandrolone will most likely be the better option.
Thanks for the help. What's the health difference between var and npp? Npp would be ran at 200 and var 25mg
 

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If you cramp bad on Var that could be harder to manage with fighting fires moving under load, but if the dose you will use treats you fine that’s the better option than NPP. You also have more total mg in the bottom stack.
Don't cramp bad just got bad acid reflux last year when I ran it. Ended up have burning pain after I eat for like 6 months straight before they found out I had gerd and some ulcer. On omeprazole now and it's all better. Dr said to continue omeprazole for 2 months but not sure if adding anavar would harm anything more?
 
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Thanks for the help. What's the health difference between var and npp?
Maybe nothing. Answering these kind of questions, we can only really talk in terms of generalities. And generally speaking, nandrolones will tend to have a greater capacity for negative health impacts/outcomes. Brain health and cardiovascular in particular.

I guess it's kinda like saying, smoking a cigarette will tend to be worse for your health than eating a meal of fried food. And no-one smokes just one cigarette, or eats one takeaway meal. If you want to limit health risks, you choose the least deliterious option.
 
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Don't cramp bad just got bad acid reflux last year when I ran it. Ended up have burning pain after I eat for like 6 months straight before they found out I had gerd and some ulcer. On omeprazole now and it's all better. Dr said to continue omeprazole for 2 months but not sure if adding anavar would harm anything more?
If it did it before you can bet it will do it again. Orals in general mess my gut up from the increased acid. I took my share when younger already and I can’t really anymore.

You can manage it with 10g glutamine 3x a day and Famotidine administered at 10 or even 20mg twice a day, but I really don’t see the point when you have other options.

Tren also gives many guys GI distress same as orals, FYI.

You know you could also run the test & mast at 300 AND use NPP at 150/wk. Similar total mg and anabolism as your proposed test/mast/Var combo.
 

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If it did it before you can bet it will do it again. Orals in general mess my gut up from the increased acid. I took my share when younger already and I can’t really anymore.

You can manage it with 10g glutamine 3x a day and Famotidine administered at 10 or even 20mg twice a day, but I really don’t see the point when you have other options.

Tren also gives many guys GI distress same as orals, FYI.

You know you could also run the test & mast at 300 AND use NPP at 150/wk. Similar total mg and anabolism as your proposed test/mast/Var combo.
Thanks brotha! Yea thats a good option as well. I guess I could try anavar if it messes me up just get rid of it.

Guess either gonna do test 200 mast 200 npp 200

Or Test 300 mast 300 and add anavar. If I do this when should I add the var. 25 mg. Last 8 weeks? 1st 4 weeks take 4 weeks off last week's on?
 

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Thanks brotha! Yea thats a good option as well. I guess I could try anavar if it messes me up just get rid of it.

Guess either gonna do test 200 mast 200 npp 200

Or Test 300 mast 300 and add anavar. If I do this when should I add the var. 25 mg. Last 8 weeks? 1st 4 weeks take 4 weeks off last week's on?
Why not 300/300/200 Test/Mast/NPP and then last 6 weeks 50mg Var? Still a pretty mild cycle that should give good results.
 
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You said "healthy", so you can throw that cut stack out the window lol.

Testosterone, masteron and npp 250-300mg of each.
 
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Why not 300/300/200 Test/Mast/NPP and then last 6 weeks 50mg Var? Still a pretty mild cycle that should give good results.
This looks good, low doses of all easy to handle compounds. But don't be fooled your total milligrams are like 1,200 here it's mild but plenty of firepower
 

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This looks good, low doses of all easy to handle compounds. But don't be fooled your total milligrams are like 1,200 here it's mild but plenty of firepower
Yea threw the cut stack out of the equation lmao. Debating between the test mast npp or just the test mast solo with the var. This blast don't really care for strength just want to look good. Big but shredded trying not to hold onto much water.
 
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Yea threw the cut stack out of the equation lmao. Debating between the test mast npp or just the test mast solo with the var. This blast don't really care for strength just want to look good. Big but shredded trying not to hold onto much water.
I'm a bad guy to make judgment of this because I don't tend to hold water on anything unless I eat really really bad and even then I don't really get too bad water retention. But I think 300 test/300 mast is more than enough to look good and stay fairly lean and just feel good all the time. That's what I was using to maintain 200 to 208 lb before I started dieting for my fight. The only reason I dropped that was because I was having a hard time getting below 192 lb well I was on it.

Even right now on 120 mg of testosterone and some sarms I'm having a hard time getting under 185. The only point I'm trying to make is it doesn't take much.

I vote test and Mast for the win. Maybe throw the antivir in later in the cycle if you even need it
 
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Thanks brotha. Only will run var 25 mg a day. Would it be too much to run it first 4 weeks 4 week break then 4 weeks back on? Guess depends on bloodwork
That’s a great way to **** your lipids up right out of the gate and keep them lousy the entire blast.
 
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Thanks brotha. Only will run var 25 mg a day. Would it be too much to run it first 4 weeks 4 week break then 4 weeks back on? Guess depends on bloodwork
That’s a great way to **** your lipids up right out of the gate and keep them lousy the entire blast.
 
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Thanks brotha. Only will run var 25 mg a day. Would it be too much to run it first 4 weeks 4 week break then 4 weeks back on? Guess depends on bloodwork
I save orals for the end of cycles, if you start with a oral you put stress on your body and screw up cholesterol amongst other things and now you put yourself in an unhealthy state in the first four weeks it just doesn't make a lot of sense. You know what happens when you put yourself in an unhealthy State at the beginning of the cycle, you make less progress for the remainder of the cycle.
Can you do it, yeah sure you can but it's not the best way to go about it
 
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Start low finish high. Add gear as the cycle goes on don't take gear away untill you're ready to end the cycle or your lowering things to stop unwanted side effects.

Weeks 1-6
300/300 test and mast

Weeks 7-12
300/300 test and mast + 40mg anavar daily.

Simple and effective
 

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I save orals for the end of cycles, if you start with a oral you put stress on your body and screw up cholesterol amongst other things and now you put yourself in an unhealthy state in the first four weeks it just doesn't make a lot of sense. You know what happens when you put yourself in an unhealthy State at the beginning of the cycle, you make less progress for the remainder of the cycle.
Can you do it, yeah sure you can but it's not the best way to go about it
Thanks bro appreciate it. I'll save it for the end. Should I add npp in for the first 6 to 8 weeks then you think. Then drop npp and add anavar for the last 4?
 
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Thanks bro appreciate it. I'll save it for the end. Should I add npp in for the first 6 to 8 weeks then you think. Then drop npp and add anavar for the last 4?
Can I ask a question, how many cycles have you ran in the past and how many of these things have you already used before previously. You started the thread by looking for healthy mini cycles.

Now your talking about stacking 3-4 compounds and running over a gram of gear.

Healthy "ish" mini cycle = less then 500mg of bioidentical hormones or things that are very friendly on your blood work. 200-300mg of two compounds totaling 4 to 600 mg is kind of a healthy mini cycle. Stacking two to three injectables plus an oral and exceeding 1,000 mg, there's nothing healthy or many about that you're just running a normal steroid cycle at moderate to high doses at that point
 
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OP I wouldnt be running anything other than TRT until you get your heart properly checked out. And not just an ECG but an echo as well at the very least.
 
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OP I wouldnt be running anything other than TRT until you get your heart properly checked out. And not just an ECG but an echo as well at the very least.
I would not use steroids ever if he's been dealing with this for nearly 20 years. Every time your heart goes over 200bpm ( the number varies person to person) there's damage being done. Even if it's minor that's 20 years of minor damage building up. I would definitely do an ECG in a cardio stress test and get a clear view of the damage or lack of. I'd be afraid to have stimulants at this point
 
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Can I ask a question, how many cycles have you ran in the past and how many of these things have you already used before previously. You started the thread by looking for healthy mini cycles.

Now your talking about stacking 3-4 compounds and running over a gram of gear.

Healthy "ish" mini cycle = less then 500mg of bioidentical hormones or things that are very friendly on your blood work. 200-300mg of two compounds totaling 4 to 600 mg is kind of a healthy mini cycle. Stacking two to three injectables plus an oral and exceeding 1,000 mg, there's nothing healthy or many about that you're just running a normal steroid cycle at moderate to high doses at that point
Can we get a answer to this👆
 

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