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Mild PH's good for bulking besides 1+4 andro

Jumpi

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Hey guys, finished a couple months ago my first 1+4 andro cycle (6weeks) and was okay with the results 7-8pounds (3kg) it was a nice mild run without a lot of side effects .PCT was great too( nolva)

Im planning to di my second cycle but I would prefer to do something more anabolic like not für cutting but bulking on mass but with good quality gains too wich I can maintain as easy as after 1+4 andro.

I read of Msten but I think it is to harsh for a second cycle as I want a mild stack.

What can you guys suggest me from your experince and knowledge for a stack for bulking and getting more mass than with 1+4 andro with pretty mild PH's too?

Thanks for helping me out :)
 
Mild PH = halodrol

Good results too
 
Jumpi said:
Hey guys, finished a couple months ago my first 1+4 andro cycle (6weeks) and was okay with the results 7-8pounds (3kg) it was a nice mild run without a lot of side effects .PCT was great too( nolva)

Im planning to di my second cycle but I would prefer to do something more anabolic like not für cutting but bulking on mass but with good quality gains too wich I can maintain as easy as after 1+4 andro.

I read of Msten but I think it is to harsh for a second cycle as I want a mild stack.

What can you guys suggest me from your experince and knowledge for a stack for bulking and getting more mass than with 1+4 andro with pretty mild PH's too?

Thanks for helping me out :)
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As mentioned above, Halodrol is a good option for a first methylated cycle. But it is harder to find here in the US unless you want to order from the Uk. M-sten or DMZ are also good and easy to find. I wouldn’t worry too much about M-sten or DMZ being too harsh provided you use proper cycle support and keep the dosages and length moderate. M-sten was my second ph/ds cycle and first methylated cycle . I did 4 weeks of it at 20 mg daily with nothing more than a little lethargy at the end and some minor back/shin pumps.
 
Thank you for helping me out, I appreciate it a lot . How much pounds you got on Msten cycle ( how much you think were lean gains)

Are they maintainable during and after pct?

Thank you
 
Jumpi said:
Hey guys, finished a couple months ago my first 1+4 andro cycle (6weeks) and was okay with the results 7-8pounds (3kg) it was a nice mild run without a lot of side effects .PCT was great too( nolva)

Im planning to di my second cycle but I would prefer to do something more anabolic like not für cutting but bulking on mass but with good quality gains too wich I can maintain as easy as after 1+4 andro.

I read of Msten but I think it is to harsh for a second cycle as I want a mild stack.

What can you guys suggest me from your experince and knowledge for a stack for bulking and getting more mass than with 1+4 andro with pretty mild PH's too?

Thanks for helping me out :)
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Halodrol, Pmag, Epistane.
 
Jumpi said:
Thank you for helping me out, I appreciate it a lot . How much pounds you got on Msten cycle ( how much you think were lean gains)

Are they maintainable during and after pct?

Thank you
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I gained 20+ lbs on that cycle and maintained the same bodyfat level. After PCT I was still up around 15 lbs give or take. You will los some artificial weight during pct due to reduced water and glycogen storage but new muscle can be maintained providing you maintain training intensity and eat enough feed the new muscle mass. It can be tricky but not impossible at all. It just requires focus and consistency on details and execution.
 
Promagnon. Like halodrol, but more androgenic,so you'll still be able to get an erection and generally not feel tired constantly.
 
Halodrol definitely my favorite mild PH . I've ran Msten but had me feeling like trash fast , if you can't find some halo some DMZ should be fun too
 
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