Mild PH or sarm?

[liftandeat]

I'm on TRT (doc prescribed) I'm thinking about a compound that wont completely mess with my blood work. I know lipid panels are generally off with anabolics that ok but I dont want any spike in liver or kidney numbers. Anybody have any suggestions?

 

[FloridaMan]

Either one of those options can mess with liver/kidney values. Just tell the doc that you drank a bit too much... Or be truthful, depends on how much your doc actually cares

 

[jrock645]

How often do you get bloodwork? If it’s every 3 months... wait till your next round, then do a 4-6 week run of something right after. By the time of your next bloodwork, should be about normal again.

 

[Hyde]

Probably need to dodge either of those and get an oil to add like primo, mast, or some extra test. You might be okay with a little bit of Var, assuming it’s not faked with Winny or Dbol.

You could also try an injectable SARM like LGD or RAD, but that’s still probably going to mess with liver enzymes some even avoiding the oral first pass.

 

[FloridaMan]

Probably need to dodge either of those and get an oil to add like primo, mast, or some extra test. You might be okay with a little bit of Var, assuming it’s not faked with Winny or Dbol.

You could also try an injectable SARM like LGD or RAD, but that’s still probably going to mess with liver enzymes some even avoiding the oral first pass.

Var will throw off colesteral(lol spelling) and lipids like mad from what I remember

 

[Hyde]

Var will throw off colesteral(lol spelling) and lipids like mad from what I remember

Absolutely. All orals will, and Var is meaner than many in that respect, but he said he doesn’t care about lipids, only liver enzymes or kidney values.

If lipids are actually a concern, I wouldn’t even recommend mast. I would say adding some primo or extra test are his safest bets.

 

[FloridaMan]

Absolutely. All orals will, and Var is meaner than many in that respect, but he said he doesn’t care about lipids, only liver enzymes or kidney values.

If lipids are actually a concern, I wouldn’t even recommend mast. I would say adding some primo or extra test are his safest bets.

Ah, I misread his concerns... Weird doctor that's not concerned about his lipids lol

 

[Hyde]

Ah, I misread his concerns... Weird doctor that's not concerned about his lipids lol

Yeah I would be way more concerned with atherosclerosis than a bit of temporary & reversible liver strain. Not much really beats the kidneys up besides tren provided you can control bp & use TUDCA in very high protein consumption environments.

 

[UNX]

Something like primo or nandrolone?

 

[FloridaMan]

Yeah I would be way more concerned with atherosclerosis than a bit of temporary & reversible liver strain. Not much really beats the kidneys up besides tren provided you can control bp & use TUDCA in very high protein consumption environments.

Yeah, I think this guy doesn't talk to his doctor much it sounds like... Or doesn't listen lol

 

[delsolrob]

I'd say this is really dependent on goals -

Some great OTC products: if you're looking for a great hardener that will work synergistically with your TRT and really boost libido, aggression, etc...you may consider something like Iconic Formulations Ultra Hard - there is data suggesting androsterone can actually be beneficial for lipids

Alpha Seven could be great for cutting (nearly sold out right now (Androsterone + 7-keto)

Alpha Four would be a solid option for building more mass (4-DHEA + Androsterone)

https://iconicformulations.com/blogs/news/androsterone-lowers-cholesterol-and-mimics-thyroid-hormone

 

[thebigt]

I'd say this is really dependent on goals -

Some great OTC products: if you're looking for a great hardener that will work synergistically with your TRT and really boost libido, aggression, etc...you may consider something like Iconic Formulations Ultra Hard - there is data suggesting androsterone can actually be beneficial for lipids

Alpha Seven could be great for cutting (nearly sold out right now (Androsterone + 7-keto)

Alpha Four would be a solid option for building more mass (4-DHEA + Androsterone)

https://iconicformulations.com/blogs/news/androsterone-lowers-cholesterol-and-mimics-thyroid-hormone

been using a lot of alpha four and ultrahard the last 4 months...just had annual physical last week and doc says my bloods are better than some 30 year olds he treats...i'm 62.

btw-on trt also.