Michael's Quest Towards Greatness (Test-E + Epi Log)

Phew...serious update is serious lol. Octuple post.
 
Haha took up my lunch break yesterday catching bro. Good to see you are still killing it!
 
Catching what now? lol


Day 66 - 8/1/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
HCG @ 250ius
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius


Workout: A3


HS Chest Press - WU: 1p + 25ps X 15. RP Set: 3 plates + 25ps 10 + 5 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
11 sec static
60 sec stretch w/ 70lb DBs

HS Shoulder Press - WU: 35 per side X 15. RP: 2p + 5ps 9 + 5 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
60 sec stretch

Cable Tri Extensions - WU: 140lbs X 20. Working set: 210 X 17, 220 X 14, 230 X 13

Rack Chins - WU: BW X 10. RP Set: BW + 55lbs 10 + 6 + 4 *More WEIGHT*
9 sec static
60 sec stretch

Seated Cable Row (V-Bar) - WU: 110lbs X 15. RP Set: 200lbs 9 + 5 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
23 sec static
 
Day 67 - 8/2/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Test-E @ 250mgs
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius
Adex @ .25mg

Workout: None
 
Day 68 - 8/3/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vitamin D @ 4000ius

Workout: B3

Seated Leg Curl - WU: 110 X 15. RP Set: 210lbs 10 + 6 + 3 *More REPS*
16 second static
60 second stretch

Calf Leg Press -
Working Sets: 3 plates per side X 20, 18, 15, 12

Nautilus Leg Press - *Still healing knee*


Wide-Grip Cable Curls - WU: 80lbs X 15. RP Set: 170lbs 8 + 5 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
8 sec static

Reverse Preacher Curls - WU: 30lbs X 15.
Pyramid: 60lbs X 15, 60lbs X 15, 60lbs X 12 *More REPS*

LIGHT Quad Extension WidowMaker - 2 plates
12 rep + 6 reps + 3 reps + 2 reps = 23 reps total
 
Day 69 - 8/4/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Adex @ .5mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vitamin D @ 4000ius


Workout: Weak Aspects

Pec Fly Machine - WU: 70lbs X 15. Pyramid: 145 X 13, 155 X 13, 165 X 10 *More REPS*

DB Flys - WU: 20s X 15. RP Set: 50lb DBs 11 + 6 + 4 *More WEIGHT*
13 sec static

Lateral Raises - WU: 15lb DBs X 15. Working set: 35lb DBs X 15, 12, 10 *More REPS*

DB Front Raises supersetted w/ DB Shrugs
FR: 30lb DBs X 40 (20 reps per arm) Shrugs: 90lb DBs X 12
FR: 35lb DBs X 30 (15 reps per arm) Shrugs: 90lb DBs X 11
FR: 40lb DBs X 24 (12 reps per arm) Shrugs: 90lb DBs X 10
 
Taken today... Fat'n'ready to cut at 205!

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GreenEarth said:
Taken today... Fat'n'ready to cut at 205!
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You've put on some serious size bro! And what is there to cut?! You look lean as f**k. Nice job man your arms are massive.
 
technique88 said:
You've put on some serious size bro! And what is there to cut?! You look lean as f**k. Nice job man your arms are massive.
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I agree! Looking big and solid! Keep growing man
 
Lol I am trying to figure out what there is to cut...you have definitely put on quality mass. Looks like you left no room for fat/water gain. For a test e run you kept it amazingly dry.
 
lol I appreciate the kind words gentlemen. But I do promise you, the abdominal definition I had at the start is definitely down quite a bit. That sounds kind of ridiculous because I've never been that concerned about abs, but the abdominal region is simply what I look at to gauge body fat. I don't think I gained much, but I definitely gained some. I got up to 200lbs pretty damn lean, but to get to 205 I had to start eating like a horse lol. It's good though...if you guys think I'm lean at the moment, I can't wait to post pics in 4 weeks!
 
GreenEarth said:
lol I appreciate the kind words gentlemen. But I do promise you, the abdominal definition I had at the start is definitely down quite a bit. That sounds kind of ridiculous because I've never been that concerned about abs, but the abdominal region is simply what I look at to gauge body fat. I don't think I gained much, but I definitely gained some. I got up to 200lbs pretty damn lean, but to get to 205 I had to start eating like a horse lol. It's good though...if you guys think I'm lean at the moment, I can't wait to post pics in 4 weeks!
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Shred time bro! I've been leaning down a lot on my cycle too. I do about 20-25min of cardio after every work out. are you using anything for your cut? (Substance wise)
 
Just test-e, really lol. Might hop on EC, we shall see.


Day 70 - 8/5/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
HCG @ 250ius
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius

Workout: None
 
Can you tell me more on the concept of minimum AI during PCT and using one towards the end and not all the way through?
 
technique88 said:
Can you tell me more on the concept of minimum AI during PCT and using one towards the end and not all the way through?
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Well, the concept is simple really, although to be fair I'm really not following what I originally planned for PCT. Basically, the goal of PCT is to try and return the body to a state of homeostasis, and technically if you're taking a drug which is driving a hormone down (estrogen in this case), you would not be returning to an absolute homeostasis. Just like on cycle, you only take the AI if you feel you see signs of gyno. With that in mind, taking it at the end is coinciding with tapering off clomid, because a lot of people report the so-called "rebound" gyno while tapering off of a SERM. Mild AI to ensure you don't have to worry about the rebound, but not so powerfully supplemented to take you out of the homeostasis you've returned yourself to. Meanwhile, at the start of PCT, your body is really imbalanced, and the addition of an AI would only be throwing off the balance more.

That was my reasoning at least. I've changed some things up though. The last two weeks of my cycle (while the test is clearing) I'm starting forma-stanzol, and running it for the first 2 weeks of PCT as well. In addition to that, I plan to take erase, simply because I like the addition of a suicide AI. I also happened to really enjoy it the last time I ran it.
 
Day 71 - 8/6/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Test-E @ 250mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000 ius
Adex @ .25mg


Workout: A1

Incline BB Smythe - WU: 35lbs per side X 15. RP Set: 2 plates + 10 per side 8+ 4 + 2
15 sec static
60 second stretch w/ 60lb DBs

Smythe Shoulder Press - WU: Bar X 20. RP Set: 1 plate + 25 per side 6 + 3 + 1 *More REPS*
10 second static
60 second stretch

Weighted Dips - RP Set: BW + 65lbs 8 + 5 + 3
BW X 20
14 sec static/stretch

Lat Pulldowns - WU: 120lbs X 15. RP Set: 240lbs 9 + 5 + 3 *More REPS*
15 second static
60 second stretch

Seated HS Row (1-armed) - WU: 3pps X 15. RP Set: 6pps 10 + 5 + 3
9 second static


At this point I definitely feel like I've hit my gains in terms of weight being moved for this cycle. Luckily this coincides with the beginning of my cutting process. Everything is pretty much staying where it's been (past 2 or 3 weeks), and I'm very happy with the progress. Shred time.
 
Day 72 - 8/7/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000 ius


Workout: None
 
GreenEarth said:
Well, the concept is simple really, although to be fair I'm really not following what I originally planned for PCT. Basically, the goal of PCT is to try and return the body to a state of homeostasis, and technically if you're taking a drug which is driving a hormone down (estrogen in this case), you would not be returning to an absolute homeostasis. Just like on cycle, you only take the AI if you feel you see signs of gyno. With that in mind, taking it at the end is coinciding with tapering off clomid, because a lot of people report the so-called "rebound" gyno while tapering off of a SERM. Mild AI to ensure you don't have to worry about the rebound, but not so powerfully supplemented to take you out of the homeostasis you've returned yourself to. Meanwhile, at the start of PCT, your body is really imbalanced, and the addition of an AI would only be throwing off the balance more.

That was my reasoning at least. I've changed some things up though. The last two weeks of my cycle (while the test is clearing) I'm starting forma-stanzol, and running it for the first 2 weeks of PCT as well. In addition to that, I plan to take erase, simply because I like the addition of a suicide AI. I also happened to really enjoy it the last time I ran it.
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I've used Erase for that same reason in the past, it really is the best otc thing you can purchase in assisting PCT, in my opinion. Not to mention, it helps a lot with cortisol control!



:rambo:
 
Day 73 - 8/8/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
HCG @ 250ius
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit D @ 4000 ius
Adex @ .25mg

Workout: B1

Laying Leg Curl - Warmup: 85lbs X 15. RP Set: 180lbs 9 + 5 + 3
25 second static
60 second stretch

Sitting Calf Raise - *Knee Recovery*

Quad Extension *Knee Recovery*

Preacher Curls - Warmup: 50lbs X 15. RP Set: 115lbs 9 + 5 + 3 *More REPS*
8 second static
30 second stretch

Reverse Cable Curls - Warmup: 60lbs X 15.
Working Set: 130lbs X 14, 130lbs X 14, 130lbs X 11 *More REPS*


Quad Extension Widowmaker: *Not happening*
 
Day 73 - 8/8/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
HCG @ 250ius
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit D @ 4000 ius
Adex @ .25mg

Workout: B1

Laying Leg Curl - Warmup: 85lbs X 15. RP Set: 180lbs 9 + 5 + 3
25 second static
60 second stretch

Sitting Calf Raise - *Knee Recovery*

Quad Extension *Knee Recovery*

Preacher Curls - Warmup: 50lbs X 15. RP Set: 115lbs 9 + 5 + 3 *More REPS*
8 second static
30 second stretch

Reverse Cable Curls - Warmup: 60lbs X 15.
Working Set: 130lbs X 14, 130lbs X 14, 130lbs X 11 *More REPS*


Quad Extension Widowmaker: *Not happening*
 
Day 74 - 8/9/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Test-E @ 250mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit D @ 4000 ius

Workout: None
 
Day 75 - 8/10/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Adex @ .5mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius

Workout: A2

DB Shoulder Press - Warmup: 30s X 15. RP Set: 65lb DBs 7 + 4 + 3 *More REPS*
5 sec static
60 sec stretch

DB Bench - WU: 50s X 15. RP Set: 100lb DBs 12 + 5 + 4 *More REPS*
8 second static
60 second stretch w/ 70lb DBs

CG Bench - WU: 30 per side X 12. RP: 1 plate + 40 per side 7 + 4 + 3 *More REPS*
60 sec stretch

Pull-ups: *No Time*

Laying T-Bar Rows: WU: 1 plate X 15. RP Set: 3 plates + 25lbs 8 + 4 + 2 *More REPS*
15 second static/stretch
 
Day 76 - 8/11/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vitamin D @ 4000ius

Workout: Weak Aspects


Incline BB Bench - WU: Bar X 15.
Pyramid: 135 X 12
185 X 8
205 X 8
225 X 7 *Woo hoo!*

Incline DB Rear Delt
Drop sets: 20s X 17, 15s X 10, 10s X 9

Pec Fly Machine
Pyramid: 130 X 15, 140 X 13, 150 X 8

Lat Raise Machine - WU: 50lbs X 15. Working set: 100lbs X 18, 12, 11
60 second static

21s (DC-Style): 21, 15, 10
 
Day 77 - 8/12/12

Supps:

Adex @ .25mg
HCG @ 250ius
Multi
Vit D @ 4000ius

Workout: None
 
Day 78 - 8/13/12

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Test-E @ 250mgs
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius

Workout: B2

Seated Calf Press - *Knee Recovery*

Ham-Glute Extensions - WU: BW X 12. RP Set: BW + 40lbs 10 + 5 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
10 sec static
60 sec stretch w/ 40lb DB

Incline Leg Press - *Knee Recovery*

Drag Curls - WU: 50lbs X 15. RP Set: 100lbs 9 + 5 + 4 *More REPS*

One-Armed Reverse Cable Curls
60lbs X 17
60lbs X 14
60lbs X 11
*More Reps*


Don't think that my drag curls are retrograding - I actually just slowed down the negative considerably, and therefore had less reps. Felt they were working my bis MUCH better than 2 weeks ago, so I'm happy.
 
Day 79 - 8/14/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Adex @ .25mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D. @ 4000ius


Workout: None
 
Day 80 - 8/15/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
HCG @ 250ius
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius


Workout: Accessory/Random Day (Regular gym closed)


Incline DB Bench - WU: 40s x 15. RP: 85lb DBs 10 + 5 + 4
60 sec stretch w/ 70lb DBs

Lateral Raises - WU: 15s X 15. Working set: 30s X 15, 12, 10

Dips - BW X 20, 12, 10

Lat Pulldowns - WU: 85s X 15. RP Set: 210lbs 8 + 5 + 3

HS Row: 3pps 9 + 6 + 5
12 sec static


Had to go to a random gym today, and since it's hard to keep my log accurate on different machine, I decided to do a "whatever I'm feeling" day. Felt good...will make up A3 tomorrow.
 
Day 81 - 8/16/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Test-E @ 250mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius
Adex @ .25mg


Workout: A3


HS Chest Press - WU: 1p + 25ps X 15. RP Set: 3 plates + 35ps 8 + 5 + 3 *More REPS*
11 sec static
60 sec stretch w/ 70lb DBs

HS Shoulder Press - WU: 35 per side X 15. RP: 2p + 10ps 10 + 4 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
8 second static
60 sec stretch

Cable Overhead Tri Extensions - WU: 140lbs X 15. Working set: 210 X 19, 220 X 16, 230 X 15

Rack Chins - WU: BW X 10. RP Set: BW + 60lbs 10 + 5 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
8 sec static
60 sec stretch

Seated Cable Row (V-Bar) - WU: 110lbs X 15. RP Set: 210lbs 9 + 5 + 3 *More WEIGHT*
16 sec static
 
Been away for a while back in the stands! On my way to the field. Started up Thursday. How's your weight looking?




:rambo:
 
Right around 205 still, been maintaining, but look leaner, so that's a good sign.


Day 82 - 8/17/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius

Workout: B3


Seated Leg Curl - WU: 110lbs X 15. RP: 210lbs 11 + 6 + 4
11 second static
60 second stretch

Leg Press - *Knee Recovery*

Calf Leg Press - *Knee Recovery*

Wide-Grip Cable Curls - WU: 80lbs X 15. RP: 170lbs 10 + 4 + 4
10 second static
60 second stretch

Reverse Preacher Curls - WU: 30lbs X 15. Working Set: 60lbs X 18, 15, 12

WMer - Not happening lol
 
Day 83 - 8/18/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Adex @ .5mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius
Forma - 5 pumps AM + PM

Workout: Weak Aspects


I regret to say that I didn't have my log book for this day. I did some reverse DB bench flys (hitting rear delts), along with some captain's chair stuff, and 21s. Had a very limited time before I had to head off to bartend for the evening, so it was a bit sporadic, but went well overall. Added forma today...interested to see how it works for me.
 
Day 84 - 8/19/12

Supps:

Cran @ 3 caps
Hawthorn @ 2 caps
SAMe @ 400mg
Multi
Fish Oil
Vit. D @ 4000ius
Forma - 5 pumps AM + PM

Workout: None
 
And that's all folks :D That's the "end" of my cycle...a week from thursday I'll be starting clomid and will be reporting back with how that's going, but besides that, this has been my cycle. I'm going to take advantage of the 2 weeks while test clears my system to "cruise" on DC; essentially lighten the weight I'm lifting to help prevent injury (knees and delts for me). Thanks for tuning in folks!
 
Looking forward to details on your PCT. What do you have planned for HCG? Will you do any blasts before you start Clomid or when will you discontinue?
 
I will be doing HCG 3X a week for the two weeks before starting clomid, and then will be stopping it as soon as I begin clomid (don't want suppression, of course).
 
GreenEarth said:
I will be doing HCG 3X a week for the two weeks before starting clomid, and then will be stopping it as soon as I begin clomid (don't want suppression, of course).
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Not trying to beat a dead horse but have you read anything about doing a large dose of HCG after the cycle? say around 2500iu every 5 days until like 5 days before clomid?

If the 250iu 2x week is meant to prevent total shutdown, wouldn't a large blast at the end of test jump start them?
 
TallPaul said:
Not trying to beat a dead horse but have you read anything about doing a large dose of HCG after the cycle? say around 2500iu every 5 days until like 5 days before clomid?

If the 250iu 2x week is meant to prevent total shutdown, wouldn't a large blast at the end of test jump start them?
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When you dose HCG throughout the cycle (ie 250iu 2x week) that blast at the end is uncessary. It seems the prefered method is to span HCG out ove2r your cycle to avoid blasting.
 
Never liked the concept of a HCG blast after the cycle. Feel like that could threaten future LH sensitivity due to so much HCG at once. One other benefit to having it throughout the cycle is the lack of testicular atrophy. You wait until the end of your cycle and your balls will be raisins, but with injecting it twice a week and sending a pulse to your testicles, you can attempt to avoice testicular atrophy altogether, which I did this cycle. Boys remained the same size, and the girls I've regularly had sex with have had no idea that I'm on-cycle. "You seem a lot bigger!" "Yeah, I've started a new protein powder and some creatine." "Oh, okay, cool." *Boss Face*

Just my reasoning, if you don't want to attempt to avoid atrophy, then go ahead and pulse at the end.

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^Thanks man.


Updated first page with some slight changes to PCT...everything right on track, PCT will start on Thursday with 100mg of clomid.
 
First day of PCT today. Dosed:

100mg clomid
7 pumps forma
1 cap erase
10mg ostarine
3g DAA

Question: Does the timing on any of this stuff matter? I dosed it all in the morning before I left for the day. I still have 2 more caps of erase to take and 7 more pumps of forma to apply tonight, but besides that I've taken everything for the first day of PCT. Anyone have comments on timing?


Oh, and I got DAA powder. Dear god. The taste of this stuff is going to get old very fast.
 
GreenEarth said:
First day of PCT today. Dosed:

100mg clomid
7 pumps forma
1 cap erase
10mg ostarine
3g DAA

Question: Does the timing on any of this stuff matter? I dosed it all in the morning before I left for the day. I still have 2 more caps of erase to take and 7 more pumps of forma to apply tonight, but besides that I've taken everything for the first day of PCT. Anyone have comments on timing?

Oh, and I got DAA powder. Dear god. The taste of this stuff is going to get old very fast.
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Take the full dose of erase and clomid all at once right before bed. The forma use throughout the day like you are and the DAA is best with breakfast first thing in the morning.
 
Please let me know how the osta works for you PCT. I was thinking of running it low for 6 weeks.
 
technique88 said:
Take the full dose of erase and clomid all at once right before bed. The forma use throughout the day like you are and the DAA is best with breakfast first thing in the morning.
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What's the reasoning behind this?
technique88 said:
Please let me know how the osta works for you PCT. I was thinking of running it low for 6 weeks.
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With PCT or as a stand alone? 10mg, in my opinion, is right where it should be. Anything over that has shown increased sides (especially in regards to suppression) without much increase in benefit. The one other thing is to always run AI with it, a lot of people seem to report nipple sensitivity on it. I did erase + forma, but low-dosed adex would be fine too.
 
GreenEarth said:
What's the reasoning behind this?
With PCT or as a stand alone? 10mg, in my opinion, is right where it should be. Anything over that has shown increased sides (especially in regards to suppression) without much increase in benefit. The one other thing is to always run AI with it, a lot of people seem to report nipple sensitivity on it. I did erase + forma, but low-dosed adex would be fine too.
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Apparently estrogen spikes highest at night (makes sense as to your test levels gradually decrease over the day being at its lowest before bed. I've also heard that taking your SERM before bed helps with some emotional sides. This is all word of mouth/ most common practice. In all honesty you are probably ok whenever you take it. Jut comes down to preference. Also taking it right before bed is a good way to keep dosing protocol consistent. Some scientific reasoning on my part is that sleep is the optimal time for LH and FSH secretion and testosterone stimulation. Taking your SERM right before bed will allow your endocrine system to utilize these substances at the most crucial time of activity.
 
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