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Methyldienolone Semi-Log

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I am having SS test a few of the "liver protectants" just to see if they lower enzymes levels or not. Although as Bobo and I have discussed before, havaing lower enzymes dosnet mean there isnt liver damage but that seems to be the most basic indicator and what doctors usually check first. I dont ever agree with the idea that because someone posted somewhere saying NAC stops liver damage, everyone should just toss that in there for the hell of it. However there are actual studies showing that grapefruit juice helps you get more out of oral compounds. So I will probably try that one as well as a couple others.
 
Liver values can be so broad from individual to individual that to really calculate the hepatotoxicty of a substance in needs to be done in a controlled testing environment. People taking aleve or tylenol, etc will inflict liver problems as well and many people do this a few days a week w/o any hestitation.

This product seems to have alot of promise when used safely and cautiously.
 
Liver Schmiver hook me up. Just kidding.

How many people are trialing this substance and how many are getting bloodwork done?
 
theprolangtum said:
Well, its been about a week, and I am up a total of 5 lbs. I guess looking in the mirror every da doesnt do me justice, I have gotten quite a few compliments on increased vascularity and gaining mass (along with what are you on), and at my bodyweight, 4 lbs isnt all too noticeable, at least to me, so I have added mass and seemed to drop bf. This is in spite of the fact that since Friday I have had severe stomach issues. Im pretty sure it is unrelated to the m dien, I have never heard of stomach problems while on any AAS. Bascially I have been having ED (explosive diarrhea :mad: ) and not to be gross, but my stool is charred and black. I figured I would loose weight, but I am still up 5 lbs. Lifts are up a bit also.
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not that I think it's related, but just for referrence, I have heard of stomach problems from a-bombs.
 
is there anyone who has tried this that doesnt have any wealth to gain on the product? i tried m1t and was happy with it. ill be amazed if you actually get better gains on this. id like to see more results and more people trying it though before i spend that much on it when i can buy m1t for 10$
 
college_lifter2 said:
is there anyone who has tried this that doesnt have any wealth to gain on the product? i tried m1t and was happy with it. ill be amazed if you actually get better gains on this. id like to see more results and more people trying it though before i spend that much on it when i can buy m1t for 10$
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You should know that there are a lot of people out there including myself that won't touch M1T with a ten foot pole because of the lethargy. :rolleyes: I would pay $100 bucks a bottle if It delivered gains like Pro got without the lethargy.
 
Collegelifter, myself and the other testers, get nothing monitary out of the situation. We help sledge out, and he lets us test it. We all give our honest opinions, if the product I tested was crap, I would say it, but I really liked M1,4ADD.
 
college_lifter2 said:
is there anyone who has tried this that doesnt have any wealth to gain on the product?
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Uhh, kinda hard to tell, seeing that the product hasn't been released to the public yet. ;)
 
I am sticking with my orignal doses of 1-3mgs per day max dose. I had to move back the release date, it was delayed in shipping to me. It wont be 90$ that is for damn sure. I am going to do 100 tabs per bottle, 1 mg per tab. I wont release price info yet, other then saying I will hands down be the cheapest.
 
Hey Pro I was wondering how long you were off the methyl-dien...what you did for pct and how much of your gains you kept.
 
sledge- what do you suggest for PCT? Same deal as with M1T?

Also, any updates on when tabs will be available?
 
I believe that doing something that's hard on the liver can lead to lethargy. It's possible that's where the M1 reports of lethargy are coming from. If people aren't seeing that with Methyldienolone, I wonder if it's actually less toxic.

Does anyone have info on how methyldienolone toxicity compares to that of other prohormones, steroids, test, and so on? Thanks.
 
I could be wrong,but I think Sldge is not releasing any info on blood work on the boards. Only in his news letter so other companies can't take advantage of it.
 
Lean One said:
I could be wrong,but I think Sldge is not releasing any info on blood work on the boards. Only in his news letter so other companies can't take advantage of it.
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What newsletter?
 
I am going to talk with Sledge before releasing mine. Not going to get into numbers, but my doc was not too worried about what my AST and ALT came back at. He wasnt too happy about my HDL fraction though.
 
rrgg said:
I believe that doing something that's hard on the liver can lead to lethargy. It's possible that's where the M1 reports of lethargy are coming from. If people aren't seeing that with Methyldienolone, I wonder if it's actually less toxic.

Does anyone have info on how methyldienolone toxicity compares to that of other prohormones, steroids, test, and so on? Thanks.
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W :eek: W!!!! Or as Homer would say "DOHHHHHHHHHHH!" Some of you guys have the best theories ever. Please research and learn a thing or two as to not make an example of what not to do out of yourself.

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>Some of you guys have the best theories ever. Please
>research and learn a thing or two as to not make an example
>of what not to do out of yourself.

I was implying that fatigue or lethargy can sometimes be a symptom of liver problems. This isn't just a theory.

I was not trying to say that all steroids make everyone tired or something like that. There are many possibilities. For example, fatigue is also a symptom of dehydration.
 
rrgg I was implying that fatigue or lethargy can sometimes be a symptom of liver problems. This isn't just a theory. I was not trying to say that all steroids make everyone tired or something like that. There are many possibilities. For example said:
There actually is some validity to your point...
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Damn I FUCKING LOVE this board

Anyone who EVER considers using ANY type of ergogen should come here first.

You guys rock. Thanks for all the great info.
 
Assum,ing you have no prior liver conditions... would this be something you could use pre workout (1-2mg an hour before training) and at the same time be taking a daily dose of 20mg/day of M1T or do you all think that would be too harsh on the liver..

(Im also doing a low dose of test..400mg/week)
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Assum,ing you have no prior liver conditions... would this be something you could use pre workout (1-2mg an hour before training) and at the same time be taking a daily dose of 20mg/day of M1T or do you all think that would be too harsh on the liver..

(Im also doing a low dose of test..400mg/week)
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You'd be better off with M5AA pre WO.
 
well it seemed that since the effective dose is so low (1-3mg/day) that stacking it wouldnt be too harsh over a short 4 week cycle...

????
 
Eep, not this again. The toxicity is not directly related to the effective dose. M-Tren is effective in mcg's but still ridiculously toxic. Assuming that a low dose means its safer or less toxic is illogical and incorrect. Also, when stacking two compounds we know very little about, we really have only an inkling of how they will interact together and how their interactions will affect the liver. Bottom line: Don't stack methyls... especially new methyls that we have very little knowledge of.
 
I am telling you guys there is really no need to stack this with anything. It is very strong, hence the low dose.

As for the newsletter, when you create an account there should bea little check box that you click and when I send the news letters you will get one. I would like to have the data from the blood tests help everyone but I dont want other companies using this data for their products. having everything copyrighted on the website,so there will be no cutting and pasting. If there is a better way to do I would be open to suggestions.
 
Designer Supps said:
I am telling you guys there is really no need to stack this with anything. It is very strong, hence the low dose.

As for the newsletter, when you create an account there should bea little check box that you click and when I send the news letters you will get one. I would like to have the data from the blood tests help everyone but I dont want other companies using this data for their products. having everything copyrighted on the website,so there will be no cutting and pasting. If there is a better way to do I would be open to suggestions.
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there is no way to prevent someone from using the data you provided. unless you copyright the site.

so can you prevent someone using that same data?

1. digitially - no
2. legally - yes
 
Does anyone know where one may be able to find some images of prolangtum. I wanna see what this test dummy looks like after all these high dose cycles he's been running. ;)
Hint, hint, Pro. post some damn pics already. WOrd of mouth is one thing but a pictures worth a million words.

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I received my M-Dien in record time from Designer Supps. THanks again. Awesome service.
 
I just blew some money at sldge's convience. Ill let you girls no how the turn around goes. That "limited quantity" thought kept flashing through my head so I figured I better jump on it sooner then later. Sldge thats not another marketing tactic is it? J/K bro. I see that **** has climbed its way up the best sellers block pretty quick. I need to find something that I can make a quick fortune off of the same way. Hype it up massively, drop it on the market and put limited on it and BAM quick fortune. ;) Ive got the perfect idea, an orgasm pill. The chicks would be all over that **** man. If only I could figure out how to put an orgasm in a pill. You gotta admit, its a topseller if it ever happened.
© no jacking ideas.

db
 
Anyone have any feedback on libido? I'd like to order some and start ASAP, but I'm going to be visiting my girl next weekend and don't want to take any chances.
 
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