Methadrol log.

Good lifts noshirt. That no libido sh!t sure puts u down.

Johnny if u run the methadrol I suggest u run it with 4ad or Androenhance to combat lethargy and libido issues.
 
thanks half. side no lethargy is awful. i def shudve ran something for it. i overlooked that part. guess you live and learn
 
Noshirt52 said:
thanks half. side no lethargy is awful. i def shudve ran something for it. i overlooked that part. guess you live and learn
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Exactly. Makes the next cycle more interesting because u learned a lesson lol
 
Forma is the stuff...

I'm gyno prone, and I end up taking erase about week 3 at a low does to help with it, but nothing compares to when I get the Forma Stanza out.
 
Yea the forma is really a grade A product. Dude not even a slight symptom and made the slight gyno i had previously softer then a marshmellow. Idk if its gone or not. Im running it thru pct to prevent estro rebound
 
I run it for 6 weeks, even though PCT is 4 weeks.

I have heard of guys on here that will run just Forma Stanza to help with a cut
 
Yea man. Im gonna be honest my diet the past week has been awful. Starting tuesday im going back hardcore on it. Need to be perfect for pct
 
Day 20 weight 193. 5

Def look bigger and for a 7.5 pound increase on the scale id say there is minimal fat gain. I have been dieting super clean for the most part. Today i did arms. idk if people kept saying i look HUGE cause my pump or not but jesus like 9800 people walked up to me like "what are you taking? what do you do for arms? you look good keep it up" lol sheesh. I mean this **** motivates me so much i cant even explain it. So many people ask me how big do i wanna get? honestly there is no limit. I love to work out and i will lift till the day i die! anyways this supp is just awesome. Same sides as usual. My joints are beyond killing me in my elbow and knees (both have been injured previously tho). Backne is clearing up. Anyone who takes this make sure you take something for lethargic purposes. Hands down biggest mistake i made on this cycle. If your gyno prone (which i am heavily) 4 pumps of forma daily will def be more then sufficient. allright well here was my workout:

Bicep Curls
40 x 9
40 x 8
40 x 8
40 x 9
40 x 6

Skull Crushers into presses (close grip)
60 x 12 into 5
60 x 11 into 5
60 x 12 into 5
60 x 12 into 5
60 x 10 into 5

Preacher curls (hammer strength)
90 x 7
90 x 6
90 x 6

Pushdowns hammer strength
60 x 9
60 x 10
60 x 10

Seated incline curls (45 degrees)
25 x 10
25 x 10
35 x 5

Overhead extensions
110 x 12
130 x 8
130 x 8

May not seem like much but i did every rep slow and perfect. Trust me i was done after my first exercise lol the workout was a killer. Ill be starting my hcg actually prob tmrw. Im excited cause i know thats gonna only help gain some muscle and be a good bridge into my pct PLUS MY LIBIDO!!!ugh do i miss it. sigh the pros and cons of ph
 
Day 20 shoulders
dumbbell press
60 x 7
60 x 8
60 x 8
65 x 7
65 x 7

Shrugs
60 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 8

3 sets of 45 plate shrugs till failure

behind the back press barbell
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 10
right into...

Rear dumbbell raises
20 x 10
20 x 10
20 x 10
20 x 10
20 x 10

side raises
20 x 4

and then i realized i couldnt force anymore blood into my shoulders lol I mean they were pumped to the max like it hurt to move them. Keep in mind i did all that in like 25 minutes. Amazing workout. Im kind of getting antsy to start my hcg so im going to start it tmrw on the day 21. Id say im satisfied with my results but i always want to be bigger so im not satisfied lol
 
Didnt get to update yesterday. Ill be weighing in tmrw and posting my back workout later. I did legs yesterday. I did each set till failure.
5 sets squats 15 rep range
5 sets leg gurls 15 rep range
5 sets leg extensions 15 rep range
5 sets leg presses 15 rep range
5 sets calf raises 15 rep range

All till failure. The burn was super intense. I started my hcg yesterday. Today will be day 2. Im excited to feel some libido back. Seriously cant wait. Alot of my sides are starting to subside . Backne has gone way down. Lethargy isnt as bad. Idk how but ill take it. As for mass i hate to say i didnt get much. And i eat properly and lift hard trust me. I def got some nice fullness and couple changes ive noticed. Im def bigger then the start so i cant complain. Im sure within the next 7 days ill see a little more then with my pct which :
APE
Hcgenerate
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma stanzol as an ai
And im gonna continue running cycle support as well. (stuff was amazing) really kept sides minimal. Umm idk how people arr talking about 20-25 pound gains from this. Thats bull****. Ive allways been a hard gainer. 2 pounds is super hard work so im happy with how i came out. As for the pct i know ill only get bigger on that. So im excited
 
Noshirt52 said:
Didnt get to update yesterday. Ill be weighing in tmrw and posting my back workout later. I did legs yesterday. I did each set till failure.
5 sets squats 15 rep range
5 sets leg gurls 15 rep range
5 sets leg extensions 15 rep range
5 sets leg presses 15 rep range
5 sets calf raises 15 rep range

All till failure. The burn was super intense. I started my hcg yesterday. Today will be day 2. Im excited to feel some libido back. Seriously cant wait. Alot of my sides are starting to subside . Backne has gone way down. Lethargy isnt as bad. Idk how but ill take it. As for mass i hate to say i didnt get much. And i eat properly and lift hard trust me. I def got some nice fullness and couple changes ive noticed. Im def bigger then the start so i cant complain. Im sure within the next 7 days ill see a little more then with my pct which :
APE
Hcgenerate
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma stanzol as an ai
And im gonna continue running cycle support as well. (stuff was amazing) really kept sides minimal. Umm idk how people arr talking about 20-25 pound gains from this. Thats bull****. Ive allways been a hard gainer. 2 pounds is super hard work so im happy with how i came out. As for the pct i know ill only get bigger on that. So im excited
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Im curious to know what your calorie intake was like & your macros?

Also Methadrol is a real strong PH, I think you should run Clomid high 75/50/50/25.
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My caloric intake and macros ill post tmrw. I ran today for like 4 hours in basketball so thats going to kill my weigh in tmrw morning. As for the clomid at 75 idk if ican handle that lol the sides are harsh. Idk if uve ever taken the clomid. Ill see how im feeling on the 50 in the start.

My back workout today was:
Lat pulldowns
5 sets of 210 5 reps

Cable rows
230 5 sets of 5 reps

Cable crossover
4 sets
45 x 10

Supersetted with cable crossovers was pullups wide grip and close grip till failure

Deadlifts (went light)
135 x 10
185 x 8
205 x 6
205 x 6

That was all. So many people are saying i got bigger. Feels awesome but i hate having the tiny pouch from eatig so many carbs. Im so used to just being super super lean but for the time being and pct i gotta live with it. My diet has been super clean everyday but for a majority i eat all clean healthy foods. Ill post my weight tmrw ad calorie intake for you
 
LTFU said:
Are you able to run HCG the whole cycle to try and help keep your soldier saluting?
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Nm, after further research, to answer my own question you can. Its promoted to help prevent shutdown while on cycle. Whether or not it can prevent it with something as strong as MD extreme who knows
 
The hcg is optional on cycle to prevent shutdown. I didnt need a libido for personal reasons at this time which is why i ran this now. I just started bridging the hcg in yesterday into my pct. you can already feel the difference if any of you ever want to try it. Look at the label. The profile is all great stuff if you look them up individually. Kind of pricy tho
 
Yea, I'm def going to give it a try on my cycle. And I found it for fourty something which I didnt think was to bad, at least it'll keep the girl of my case.
 
WEIGHT IS 197
its weird cause im definitely bigger then the start if you look back but i am so not lean lol its mentally hard for me to accept it. The pics dont really do it justice but i got alot bigger now that i look back and not much fat gain for such an increase.\

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You def look a lot bigger. Your back is a lot wider and thick too. Your abs are still showing so u didn't gain much bf. good job my dude.
 
Yea i been trying to eat super clean and just lift redicilously hard. My old lean weight was 182 lol im hoping for my new lean weight to be 195 when all said and done. Thanks brah. Ill be posting pics again end of cycle and then thru pct as well
 
Noshirt52 said:
Yea i been trying to eat super clean and just lift redicilously hard. My old lean weight was 182 lol im hoping for my new lean weight to be 195 when all said and done. Thanks brah. Ill be posting pics again end of cycle and then thru pct as well
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Your doing good. I can't wait for my bulk. It's going to be my first time bulking and also changing my diet up. I never went higher than 150g on carbs, so it'll be interesting to see how I get. 195 lean is a great weight. I'm trying to get there by feb. sounds good brotha,
 
Thanks. Ive lived on the lean diet. Im talking like 60-100 carbs per day. I had to write up my own diet plan so carefully lol works well tho
 
Noshirt52 said:
Thanks. Ive lived on the lean diet. Im talking like 60-100 carbs per day. I had to write up my own diet plan so carefully lol works well tho
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That's my usual carb intake as well. Sometimes a little lower 40-60g. Lol every individual is different so playing around with macros is a good thing and knowing what's good for u and what's not. I just started counting calories as of yesterday and realized my calorie intake is only 2000. I thought I was taking more lol. But macros are good. Roughly it was; Fat 60g, carbs 50 and protein at 205g. trying to go up little by little. Im on Alphamine so I don't want to raise calories just yet. In two weeks I'll start my Anabeta Elite and I'll go up to 2500 cals
 
johnny75 said:
Im curious to know what your calorie intake was like & your macros?

Also Methadrol is a real strong PH, I think you should run Clomid high 75/50/50/25.
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My calorie intake ranges from 3300-3700 on a typical clean day.
My fat grams are about 40-50 when i eat clean to the t.
Carbs range from 250-300
Protein is 375-400.

Keep in mind this a super clean day which you cant forget im human and tend to stray at times from the crystal clean diet. But for the most days i get to keep it just at that. Weekends are a major killer for me lol i do cardio during the week also so i can afford to eat what i want pretty much. I play basketball monday,wednesday and saturday so keep that in mind when assessing your own intake. I know theres been days when ive easily hit 5000 lol this stuff makes ur apetite endless.
 
halfhuman said:
That's my usual carb intake as well. Sometimes a little lower 40-60g. Lol every individual is different so playing around with macros is a good thing and knowing what's good for u and what's not. I just started counting calories as of yesterday and realized my calorie intake is only 2000. I thought I was taking more lol. But macros are good. Roughly it was; Fat 60g, carbs 50 and protein at 205g. trying to go up little by little. Im on Alphamine so I don't want to raise calories just yet. In two weeks I'll start my Anabeta Elite and I'll go up to 2500 cals
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Haha i feel you. Go look at the post i just posted. I just posted my calorie intake and macros. If you look back a bit i have a rough layout of what i eat. Damn only 2000? Lol you better bump that up on the bulk. What do you even eat to keep it so low?
 
Noshirt52 said:
Haha i feel you. Go look at the post i just posted. I just posted my calorie intake and macros. If you look back a bit i have a rough layout of what i eat. Damn only 2000? Lol you better bump that up on the bulk. What do you even eat to keep it so low?
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Damn 3500? I never ever went that high lol. This time I will though.
My usual is;
Egg whites
Whole eggs
Almond milk
Peanut butter
Chicken breast
Protein shake
Pistachios (snack)
Banana ( I switch at times to strawberries in my shake)
This is my weekday diet. On Monday's I carb load and my cals are around 2600. I'm def adding in brown rice to my everyday diet when bulking as well. I'll also add in oats.

Now in the weekends my cals are a bit higher. Around 2500 bcause wifey cooks me brown rice and I'll cheat a little.
 
Well first off whats your weight? And my personal recommendation is to switch the pistachios with almonds. Go look up your maintenance cals for your weight and depending on how active you are id bump it by 300-500. Just personal advice from me. My maintenance cals was 2800 and i consume 3300-3800 daily but i am SUPER active so i barely put on fat. So depending on your activity id go according to that
 
Noshirt52 said:
Well first off whats your weight? And my personal recommendation is to switch the pistachios with almonds. Go look up your maintenance cals for your weight and depending on how active you are id bump it by 300-500. Just personal advice from me. My maintenance cals was 2800 and i consume 3300-3800 daily but i am SUPER active so i barely put on fat. So depending on your activity id go according to that
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I'm 5'9" and I weigh 175. Pistachios is good for u too. I eat almonds as well. I switch it around from time to time. I also consume walnuts. Ima look it up after this. But I'm def going to bump up my cals. My my cycle in nov I should be up on cals to around 3000-3500. I'm pretty active myself besides playing as much ball as u. I might play once or twice every other week. But I'm active at work most of the morning.
 
Noshirt52 said:
Sure bro. Heres a typical day.
Wake up about 630
2 scoops whey

At 7am
5 eggwhites

845
Turkey sandwich on wheat

11
3/4 cup brown rice
6 ounces grilled chicken
Low fat hot dogs

1
Same meal as above

330
Turkey sandwich

Then i lift

Get home about 7-8
Ill have 6-10 ounces of chicken
Some healthy carb source on what im feeling.
Broccoli. Brown rice. Idk whatever i feel at the moment.

Normally a casein shake at night but im out of money now lol
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This is 3500? I don't see that lol. U counted them? Ik the hotdogs add a few hundred cals and also the two servings of brown rice. I sort of would be in this range except for eating the hotdogs.
 
halfhuman said:
This is 3500? I don't see that lol. U counted them? Ik the hotdogs add a few hundred cals and also the two servings of brown rice. I sort of would be in this range except for eating the hotdogs.
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Yea i counted everything thru the cal app. It adds up lol
 
Noshirt52 said:
Yea i counted everything thru the cal app. It adds up lol
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Ohh okkk. Lol yea I have that calorie counter. I used to use it religiously but I ate the same sh!t all the time that I knew what my macros was. But this time I switched it up a bit and realized wat I was consuming. Now I'm def looking more closely to get better gains.
 
Noshirt52 said:
My calorie intake ranges from 3300-3700 on a typical clean day.
My fat grams are about 40-50 when i eat clean to the t.
Carbs range from 250-300
Protein is 375-400.

Keep in mind this a super clean day which you cant forget im human and tend to stray at times from the crystal clean diet. But for the most days i get to keep it just at that. Weekends are a major killer for me lol i do cardio during the week also so i can afford to eat what i want pretty much. I play basketball monday,wednesday and saturday so keep that in mind when assessing your own intake. I know theres been days when ive easily hit 5000 lol this stuff makes ur apetite endless.
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Dude, you consumed enough calories...you just had alot of activities burning those calories.
I being a big guy consumed about the same amount of calories & gained 17 lbs. on a 6 week cycle of Mechabol, at end of PCT I lost 4 lbs.
Wish I had your metabolism.

I never tried Clomid....it has got to taste better than Tamoxifine Citrate..BLAH! Everything tastes like crap for the next 1 hour!
 
johnny75 said:
Dude, you consumed enough calories...you just had alot of activities burning those calories.
I being a big guy consumed about the same amount of calories & gained 17 lbs. on a 6 week cycle of Mechabol, at end of PCT I lost 4 lbs.
Wish I had your metabolism.

I never tried Clomid....it has got to taste better than Tamoxifine Citrate..BLAH! Everything tastes like crap for the next 1 hour!
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Yea man. Well im on track for about that. Im at 197 and i started 186. Still have about 8 days left. And omg man. I hope you never have to taste clomid lol literally gag everytime
 
Day 23 i made a mistake before on my day count
did arms
curls
25 x 12
30 x 12
30 x 10
35 x 9
35 x 8

crushers
60 x 8 into 6 close grip press
60 x 8 into 6
60 x 8 into 6
60 x 8 into 6
60 x 8 into 6

preacher hammer
90 x 8
90 x 6
90 x 8

pushdown hammer
70 x 8
70 x 8
70 x 8

incline curls
20 x 15
25 x 10
25 x 10

dips
9 reps
9 reps
9 reps

my arms looked enormous today lol going to be flat out and just say i looked huge. So funny how many people you catch staring at you when you look around. Its starting to get to the point where so many people are like damn you got bigger just throughout the day. pretty good feeling. i dont feel much of the hcg yet but its only day 3. Size gains are really starting to kick in now. Just about on time 3rd week is when i expected them to kick in. Awesome stuff
 
Day 24 chest
Bench
135 x 12
225 x 8
245 x 5
225 x 5
135 x 10

Incline smith
135 x 10
205 x 8
205 x 8
135 x 10

Pec deck
100 x 10
110 x 10
110 x 10
110 x 10

Decline smith
180 x 8
180 x 8
180 x 8

Couldnt really go to heavy. My shoulder has been a major hold back. I feel retardedly strong tho. I mean the 225 is like easy at 8 times and for me thats a huge jump cause i dont lift for strength.

Sides-lethargy is awful. I can sleep thru the whole day no problem. This is the main reason i cant wait to get off this. Libido is shot. The hcg only been on for 3 days so you cant count that really.

Strength-wonderful. Feel like the hulk.

Size-people are complimenting me left and right. Def got some real nice size and minimal fat. Super super happy here.

Im really excited to do my cut after my pct cause my old lean weigt was like 182. Now my new lean weight after pct depending on how much i lose should be like 195. Cant wait! Might take tmrw off to rest my shoulder considering my next workout is shoulders
 
scw538 said:
Bro you have blown up. Nice gains.
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Dude thanks alot. I havent seen my sister in two weeks. I just saw her like 5 minutes ago. She pulled me to the side and word for word she goes "what are you taking?" hahahahahaha im so pumped man. This is awesome. Also for those interested in hcg i did notice the "boys are a little plumper" and they droppe a bit so thats great news from there
 
Noshirt52 said:
Also for those interested in hcg i did notice the "boys are a little plumper" and they droppe a bit so thats great news from there
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Always a plus!! Great job broseph!
 
Day 26
Shoulders
Upright rows into behind the back press
60 x 10 into 10
60 x 8 into 8
60 x 6 into 6
60 x 8 into 8
60 x 10 into 10

Shrugs
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 8

Rear raises
25 x 8
25 x 6
25 x 6
25 x 6
25 x 6

Pec deck rear delts
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 8

Been focusing on my rear delts alot more. Its an area i can tell is less developed then the rest of y shoulders. been hitting it super hard. The hcg supp is awesome man. You really feel the enhanced libido. I mean im not at full peak but i def got some back. Once i get off this and start clomid on fridat i know my libido is going to fly back. Ill be posting more pics on friday as the start of my pct.

Side note in regards to the methadrol. I constantly have been having a reaction to it. Like my skin gets really red and feels like
Hot flashes. Getting sick of it. I loved the supp but im looking forward to restoring my
Body back to normal. Made the gains i wanted. Now a proper pct and ill hopefully be keeping most of them.
 
Was just sittin down and my mom and sister were like stop. Your getting to big. You look super swolen. Im up to like 199 lol i did gain some good size. Got some extra fat in the stomach area but ill cut that down slowly after pct
 
Bad ass man at 199! Nice work! Are you taking injectable hcg, or like hcgenerate?
 
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