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MENT Question

searider

searider

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Is MENT a Methyl? I was reading a post that said it was not a methyl, but looking at its nomenclature it says Methyl. Just wanted a clarification, thnx guys.
 
No.
 
It has methyl in the nomenclature but not in the right position for "methylated"
 
It's Only of concern when it's methylated at the 17 a position. That is what causes toxicity for the liver. Since ment is not it isn't to be thought of as the traditional methylated comPound that is hepatoxic.
 
I'll go ahead and Neg myself on this one I've been reading about too many prohormones and clearly was confused... My bad. Tail between my legs.

EDIT: Pat isn't MENT the non mehtylated verision of cheque drops? if so would mendione have some of the same effects as cheque drops. the reason is people are getting a recomp effect from mendione and not much bloat can you explain more...thanks

PA - it is the non methylated version of cheque drops. it should aromatize to 7alpha-methylestradiol which could cause bloat but that depends on the person i suppose. it is strong though orally even though its not methylated and cheque drops are alot more toxic obviously...

Now I'm confused.
 
sam805 said:
It's Only of concern when it's methylated at the 17 a position. That is what causes toxicity for the liver. Since ment is not it isn't to be thought of as the traditional methylated comPound that is hepatoxic.
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Also my understanding...
 
Anybody running this yet? Either solo or stacked? I'm interested in people's ideas of stacking ment...
 
Ment is MEthylated Nor Testosterone, hence the 4 letters.

Mena, aka mentabolan is methylated nor androstenedione.

Cheque drops are di methylated nor testosterone, and contain an extra methyl group in the 17a position.
 
jbryand101b said:
Ment is MEthylated Nor Testosterone, hence the 4 letters.

Mena, aka mentabolan is methylated nor androstenedione.

Cheque drops are di methylated nor testosterone, and contain an extra methyl group in the 17a position.
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Ok risking negs here... Just trying to learn. That extra methyl in the 17a position is what is worrisome due to hepatotoxicity?
 
yes, the structure make up of a compound will effect how hepatotoxic it is within the body, with 7a17a di methylation being a more potent form of extra methylation that great increases oral availability and prevents breakdown.

I wouldn't think ment would be too terribly hepatotoxic, d/t it's increadibly short half life. the body seems to have no problem getting rid of it quickly.
 
jbryand101b said:
yes, the structure make up of a compound will effect how hepatotoxic it is within the body, with 7a17a di methylation being a more potent form of extra methylation that great increases oral availability and prevents breakdown.

I wouldn't think ment would be too terribly hepatotoxic, d/t it's increadibly short half life. the body seems to have no problem getting rid of it quickly.
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Thanks Jbry I appreciate the info man. I want to run this so I'm researching like crazy. And I think I saw you post up that Antaeus is going to release this so I'll prob wait til then. Thanks again bro
 
i think you are getting di ethyl dienolone confused with mentabolan, ibe/phf already has menadione out on the market. havn't tried the finished product yet, but did run the alpha (or beta?) test of it, and it was nice at 30mg e/d.

antaeus is working on a dienolone product, and i hope it's di ethyl dienolone, cause it would be one bad ass mofo, oh yea, and it also wouldn't be very user friendly as well.
 
jbryand101b said:
i think you are getting di ethyl dienolone confused with mentabolan, ibe/phf already has menadione out on the market. havn't tried the finished product yet, but did run the alpha (or beta?) test of it, and it was nice at 30mg e/d.

antaeus is working on a dienolone product, and i hope it's di ethyl dienolone, cause it would be one bad ass mofo, oh yea, and it also wouldn't be very user friendly as well.
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Why wouldnt it be user friendly?
 
jbryand101b said:
i think you are getting di ethyl dienolone confused with mentabolan, ibe/phf already has menadione out on the market. havn't tried the finished product yet, but did run the alpha (or beta?) test of it, and it was nice at 30mg e/d.

antaeus is working on a dienolone product, and i hope it's di ethyl dienolone, cause it would be one bad ass mofo, oh yea, and it also wouldn't be very user friendly as well.
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Honestly bro, I'm on google and AM OVERLOAD!!! I need to put the computer down lol!!! I'm getting ready to buy a few cycles of a couple different compounds and am all over the place. Thanks for setting me straight! Back to the drawing board...
 
Dvaldez5 said:
Honestly bro, I'm on google and AM OVERLOAD!!! I need to put the computer down lol!!! I'm getting ready to buy a few cycles of a couple different compounds and am all over the place. Thanks for setting me straight! Back to the drawing board...
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thanks for the negs, though im sure it was an accident.
 
3clipseGT said:
Why wouldnt it be user friendly?
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it probably wouldn't be too hepatotoxic (not sure if he would go with 17a, 13b diethyl, or 17a methyl, 13b diethyl)

but either way, anabolic/androgenic effect will be insane, but most likely so will it's ability to bind/interact the the progestin receptor
 
Jbry Your inbox is full...I negged you somehow... was trying to rep you for the help. My fault i suck when i can rep you again i will. I did the same to eclipsegt or whatever. sorry guys
 
jbryand101b said:
it probably wouldn't be too hepatotoxic (not sure if he would go with 17a, 13b diethyl, or 17a methyl, 13b diethyl)

but either way, anabolic/androgenic effect will be insane, but most likely so will it's ability to bind/interact the the progestin receptor
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Thats what i figured.
 
hes a total neg'er
 
I was THIS || close to neg repping his ass for posting that w/o description. luckily i was in a good mood. I just ate a couple of those big ass frosted cinnamon buns with icing and milk.
 
looks like that is all oral administration, which with the 7a methylation, it should have okay oral availability, but i believe intramuscular injection of the acetate ester has a much higher androgenic/anabolic ratio.

650:2300, but not sure how accurate this is.


half life of reg compound i believe has been documented anywhere between 40min to 2 hours... been a while since i looked at the data on this compound.
 
RH2012 said:
are ya'll talkin to me? the op wanted to know if ment was methylated. i thought folks might like a pic of it and the dione version. i thought it was self explanitory.
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oh, okay, and for those that dont know, the top one is the dione, aka methyl nor androstenedione.

it should be in vida as well though i believe.

also, on the first page...

jbryand101b said:
Ment is MEthylated Nor Testosterone, hence the 4 letters.

Mena, aka mentabolan is methylated nor androstenedione.

Cheque drops are di methylated nor testosterone, and contain an extra methyl group in the 17a position.
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but thanks for the pics, always fun to look at.
 
prob wouldn't be as good, avoiding first pass, you dont get the enzyme conversion for ment.

i mean, you would eventually, so might be better d/t the ace extending the half life, but who knows?
 
RH2012 said:
damn thats high. my sister has that but i didn't think she was paying that much.
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They got three levels, I think its 45, 55 and 65 (plus taxes and wtf ever else they add on)....she probably has the $45 deal, or even some sort of a discount locked in with a package deal (HSI, cable, phone)....I just got the fastest one and said fuq it. I also get the internet on my Droid phone and I think they charge me like $30 a month for that....so I pay like $100 for all this internet shyt, If i wanted I could cut that in half probably....
 
Whatever dudes all neg all of you for being a bunch of a$$ holes! You're lucky I'm in class!!

LOL @ negg'r yous guys are silly betches! Whoever said that is def getting reps!

Now let's see if this works... Oops! XD

I tried, you're welcome
 
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