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I'd like to see how it goes also.In going to do 60mg for 10 days straight in the future.
I'd like to see how it goes also.In going to do 60mg for 10 days straight in the future.
Unless just pulsing PWO 3-4x/wk, don’t use nor-test compounds for 12 weeks straight (unless cruising instead of PCT) - they’re very tough on HPTA recovery.
All I’ve read anecdotally supports the notion that it’s not very hepatoxic at all compared to most methyls, just extremely suppressive and aromatizes to very powerful methyl-estrogens
For SureLet me know how it goes
Yeah I got one more month too, and getting very hard not to start.Can’t lie, I’m more than anxious to crack open these bottles I got. One more month though...
Good info would you mind posting a bit more of your research that explains all this please
Ment and Trest don't have a 17a methyl, just a 7a methyl group, which is less toxic than the former but also has less bioavailability unless it's pinned.Good info would you mind posting a bit more of your research that explains all this please
No links, but you don’t have to trust me.
Google the trestolone as a male contraceptive studies. Stuff really crushes fertility. HPTA suppression very swiftly, massive sperm count drop, low sperm motility. It’s honestly really interesting.
Anecdotally, pretty much anyone who’s used deca, tren, trest (especially the longer esters) can attest recovery is longer than from something like test or eq.
Yeah the names can be confusing. Cgkone is pretty much right but strictly speaking
MENT= trest/trestolone
Mentabolan = PH to trest. OPs product is mentabolan (going by the label nomenclature).
To make things even more confusing, some people/companies have used the name "MENT" when they really mean mentabolan (PH), and so on.
So if I have OLs tr3st which is ment. Are you saying it’s weaker than Mentabolan? I’m wondering as I’ve just started at 50mg PWO only and don’t notice much. Maybe a touch of euphoria like a 3 out of 10 but not much else.
OL trest isn't ment... Ol trest is trest, ment is the ph to trest. Meaning it converts to trest in the body once its ingested.So if I have OLs tr3st which is ment. Are you saying it’s weaker than Mentabolan? I’m wondering as I’ve just started at 50mg PWO only and don’t notice much. Maybe a touch of euphoria like a 3 out of 10 but not much else.
OL trest isn't ment... Ol trest is trest, ment is the ph to trest. Meaning it converts to trest in the body once its ingested.
I never really noticed too much from the oral. The td is much better imo.
Also it seems like w ment you need less (mg/mg) in order to get similar effects. I have a bottle of ment on the way and will def report back once I test it out.
Caps, or TD Trest?
OL trest isn't ment... Ol trest is trest, ment is the ph to trest. Meaning it converts to trest in the body once its ingested.
I never really noticed too much from the oral. The td is much better imo.
Also it seems like w ment you need less (mg/mg) in order to get similar effects. I have a bottle of ment on the way and will def report back once I test it out.
You took my statement in the wrong light I knew you were right I was just looking for a direction of where you got your info. I have read about the male contraception studies a bit [ which has kept me from trying MENT or Trest so far] but failed to find much applicable data which applies to use as AAS.
So if I have OLs trest that’s why I’m feeling not a lot in the gym? If I was to go 75/100mg PWO instead of 50mg would that help?
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, PW in the gym (remember, it's not a stimulant).
I get... increased strength, pumps, and a little aggression from Trest oral PW.
Yeah, you could try bumping to 75mg PW.
I like it about 1 hr pwo.Running 2 caps PWO tonight!
Those of you that have ran it, when’s the best time to dose PWO, 30 minutes? One hour? Longer?
I like it about 1 hr pwo.
I've tried it directly before, 30 min before and 1 hr before.
To me 1 hr in everything is fully active.
Vikingbro.....I get nothing from oral trest either.I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, PW in the gym (remember, it's not a stimulant).
I get... increased strength, pumps, and a little aggression from Trest oral PW.
Yeah, you could try bumping to 75mg PW.
20min is cool to.Running 2 caps PWO tonight!
Those of you that have ran it, when’s the best time to dose PWO, 30 minutes? One hour? Longer?
Can u compare it to 30 mg of another compound?**Review**
About me:
27yo
7+ years of weight lifting
6’2 205
11% bf
Dosed 2 caps (30mg) an hour before my workout. I also had a PWO meal (chicken and rice) with the caps and 30min prior to my workout I took a non stim PWO for the pump
I did a high intensity Back and Chest workout. Workout was good, better than average I would say. Pump was good and endurance was also good. No negative sides.
I’d say my workout was better than average which is great but nothing crazy or outstanding. Tomorrow I will dose 3 caps and report back.
Can u compare it to 30 mg of another compound?
Vikingbro.....I get nothing from oral trest either.
Shooting 150mg trest ace is ok.
Try the MENT 60mg will rock your world
No you can buy it from a legit place for 60$They got one seller on ebay selling the Bear with good reputation. Would you buy it?
Very interestingI tested it out again yesterday, 30mg (2caps) about an hour PWO. This time I took it early in the day and further away from a meal. But I also took my TRT shot (100mg) about an hour PWO. Due to some pain in both shoulders my workout was okay. Had to switch up some of my lifts due to the annoying pains.
Everyone’s different, you said you got nothing from Oral Trest, I loved Oral Trest. I would say MG for MG I got more from Oral Trest but then again I have only dosed this MENT twice. I will run it again next week this time 3-4caps and report back..
Only sides maybe a little nipple soreness but it could be in my head becasue im expecting it lol
I shouldn't have said nothing.I tested it out again yesterday, 30mg (2caps) about an hour PWO. This time I took it early in the day and further away from a meal. But I also took my TRT shot (100mg) about an hour PWO. Due to some pain in both shoulders my workout was okay. Had to switch up some of my lifts due to the annoying pains.
Everyone’s different, you said you got nothing from Oral Trest, I loved Oral Trest. I would say MG for MG I got more from Oral Trest but then again I have only dosed this MENT twice. I will run it again next week this time 3-4caps and report back..
Only sides maybe a little nipple soreness but it could be in my head becasue im expecting it lol
I shouldn't have said nothing.
The stuff from pre I felt.
Just nothing like the PH
Which one for endurance do u prefer?Yes the Oral Trest I had was from PRE... One thing I could about the Bear MENT is that it defiantly gives me great endurance, I can workout for two hours with no rest between sets if I wanted too. I can say easily that’s it outshines the Oral Trest in the endurance aspect.
Tudca alwaysWith epiandro also though.
It won't be totally liver friendly but far from extremely toxic.
Tudca
Which one for endurance do u prefer?
Ok guys I was AFK for awhile...
Could anyone PM me a source for Mentabolan...
Or is it gone forever.
If I could get my hands on that, my workouts would be FUKKIN KILLER
You can try a couple caps now.Has anybody else had any good things to say anout this i just ordered a bottle and im 1.5 weeks int a test and nandrolone cycle with combo ph with msten dmz and alpha as a kickstart. Was gona use this pre wo after my oral kickstart is over.
You can try a couple caps now.
If your on cycle support you should be fine

U took 3 caps and nothing??I've been using Bear Strength for the past couple weeks at 3 caps PreWO and am literally feeling nothing oddly enough.
I've used oral Trest before and have had a good boost, but this I haven't noticed anything. Only thing it's seemed to do is cause some nipple sensitivity and make me feel sluggish.
I've been using Bear Strength for the past couple weeks at 3 caps PreWO and am literally feeling nothing oddly enough.
I've used oral Trest before and have had a good boost, but this I haven't noticed anything. Only thing it's seemed to do is cause some nipple sensitivity and make me feel sluggish.
Thats crazy. 3 caps was too much for me. 2 caps gets me going. I cant imagine not being able to feel 3I've been using Bear Strength for the past couple weeks at 3 caps PreWO and am literally feeling nothing oddly enough.
I've used oral Trest before and have had a good boost, but this I haven't noticed anything. Only thing it's seemed to do is cause some nipple sensitivity and make me feel sluggish.
I actually prefer oral Trest preworkout. But Mentabolan is definitely a strong compound. It is one of the few compounds that can make me grumpily aggressive, if I'm not careful.
...and it has a LOT of Estrogenic activity.
Thats crazy. 3 caps was too much for me. 2 caps gets me going. I cant imagine not being able to feel 3