MENT Bear Strength

Nac said:
Yeah the names can be confusing. Cgkone is pretty much right but strictly speaking

MENT= trest/trestolone

Mentabolan = PH to trest. OPs product is mentabolan (going by the label nomenclature).

To make things even more confusing, some people/companies have used the name "MENT" when they really mean mentabolan (PH), and so on.
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Damn! Thanks for clearing that up
 
I honestly think the diff names an writing the same compound in diff ways is to prolong how long it can be available before the dea/fda can prove it's a steroid and prove it for all five diff variations. So even thow its a pain in the azz for us to keep track of at least we can get this stuff for longer. Speaking of which apparently the oral version of Deca is still legal through a typo in the 2005 steroid ban that still has not been corrected. This really doesn't matter to most of us but it's kinda funny that anyone can buy oral Deca OTC.
 
FRITZBLITZZ said:
I honestly think the diff names an writing the same compound in diff ways is to prolong how long it can be available before the dea/fda can prove it's a steroid and prove it for all five diff variations. So even thow its a pain in the azz for us to keep track of at least we can get this stuff for longer. Speaking of which apparently the oral version of Deca is still legal through a typo in the 2005 steroid ban that still has not been corrected. This really doesn't matter to most of us but it's kinda funny that anyone can buy oral Deca OTC.
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You can buy oral deca otc? Whats the name on that?
 
FRITZBLITZZ said:
I honestly think the diff names an writing the same compound in diff ways is to prolong how long it can be available before the dea/fda can prove it's a steroid and prove it for all five diff variations. So even thow its a pain in the azz for us to keep track of at least we can get this stuff for longer. Speaking of which apparently the oral version of Deca is still legal through a typo in the 2005 steroid ban that still has not been corrected. This really doesn't matter to most of us but it's kinda funny that anyone can buy oral Deca OTC.
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You may be referring to the compound DECA, which is not oral Deca.
 
FRITZBLITZZ said:
I honestly think the diff names an writing the same compound in diff ways is to prolong how long it can be available before the dea/fda can prove it's a steroid and prove it for all five diff variations. So even thow its a pain in the azz for us to keep track of at least we can get this stuff for longer. Speaking of which apparently the oral version of Deca is still legal through a typo in the 2005 steroid ban that still has not been corrected. This really doesn't matter to most of us but it's kinda funny that anyone can buy oral Deca OTC.
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Basically, when the FDA bans a hormone, the company just changes the name, look, everything. Then releases it again lol.

But it's still the same thing.

"Loopholes"
 
christ83189 said:
You can buy oral deca otc? Whats the name on that?
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So only a few companies are selling it and they mix it with something like M-sten and just call it Alpha-2.0 or whatever but I read the article from Pat Arnold here is the compound: 18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol
 
Bintherduntht said:
Basically, when the FDA bans a hormone, the company just changes the name, look, everything. Then releases it again lol.

But it's still the same thing.

"Loopholes"
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Yah and now labs are getting good at adding a chloro to something and they can rewrite the entire molecule chain and in 5 diff ways so the dea/fda have to prove all 5 new ones are steroids then 6months later same thing is back on the shelves
 
Yeah, sorry guys....I really should have said..."I don't believe it to be oral Deca". Whatever it is...here it is.....



18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol (DECA)
Recommended Dosage- 40-80mgs a day
Average Cycle Length- 4-6 weeks
Advanced Cycle Length- 6-8 weeks
Methylated-No its Ethylated
Toxicity Level- Low
Estrogen Conversion-No
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: N/A



This compound is very new and there is no exact write up to its exact properties of action. It has been said to be very similar to 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one known as MAX-LMG. There is very contradicting info on this compound from it being a derivative of methylnortest down to it being a ethylated nor testosterone based chemical. It is also said that MAX-LMG is thePro-Hormone to this potent powerhouse. Meaning this would and could possibly be considered a Designer Steroid.

Its basically norbolethone without the 17a-ethyl meaning this futhers the evidence of it being very similar in action as
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one. When there is more proven documentation on this we will post it.
 
Renew1 said:
Yeah, sorry guys....I really should have said..."I don't believe it to be oral Deca". Whatever it is...here it is.....



18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol (DECA)
Recommended Dosage- 40-80mgs a day
Average Cycle Length- 4-6 weeks
Advanced Cycle Length- 6-8 weeks
Methylated-No its Ethylated
Toxicity Level- Low
Estrogen Conversion-No
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: N/A



This compound is very new and there is no exact write up to its exact properties of action. It has been said to be very similar to 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one known as MAX-LMG. There is very contradicting info on this compound from it being a derivative of methylnortest down to it being a ethylated nor testosterone based chemical. It is also said that MAX-LMG is thePro-Hormone to this potent powerhouse. Meaning this would and could possibly be considered a Designer Steroid.

Its basically norbolethone without the 17a-ethyl meaning this futhers the evidence of it being very similar in action as
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one. When there is more proven documentation on this we will post it.
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There are some people who consider that compound (and Max LMG) to be very similar to deca. Maybe you can't exactly get oral deca, but you can get some damn close things to it. One thing I would look into is dienolone PH - estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. It appears to be pretty similar to deca. And you may get some similar gains and probably some very similar side effects with the notorious deca d*ck.
 
Cgkone said:
Me too.
I take a lot wen I like something.
That's the reason I take big doses couple times a week.
Its like...BOOM!!! Then I'm good for a day or two.
I do no PreWO. Drink on MENT day.
I just drink coffee.
I workout in the morning.
These MENT mornings have been long and sweaty.
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one with excessive issues lol. Since I'm on the MEGA cruise I will hold off till next Blast. If I dose 30mg mon/wed/fri , would It be very manageable with just slight AI tweak? or should I just play it safe and stick to 2x week? Youre the only person I kinda know that also knows his stuff to really advise on how problematic it could be. I read a bunch on it but I just can't see how Mon & Thurs it caused no problems but Mon/Wed/Fri and youre in the danger zone. Let me know
 
210LBS said:
There are some people who consider that compound (and Max LMG) to be very similar to deca. Maybe you can't exactly get oral deca, but you can get some damn close things to it. One thing I would look into is dienolone PH - estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. It appears to be pretty similar to deca. And you may get some similar gains and probably some very similar side effects with the notorious deca d*ck.
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I thought that was tren?
 
Cgkone said:
I thought that was tren?
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All I know is there are around 6 versions of standard AAS that have swapped out segments of the molicule for Dien and Dion and it ranges from Tren, NPP, Primo, EQ, Phera, 1-Test, and maybe others. I have seen them on black sites that are not quite as hidden as UGLs but more hidden then the real RC companies.
 
Cgkone said:
I thought that was tren?
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They call it "tren" but it's not really tren. Trendione (trenavar) is actually a different compound that converts to trenbolone. But this "tren" actually converts to dienolone. It's a 19-nortestosterone group. It's crazy how similar the compounds look - estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione vs estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione and yet they are different. I think another way you may see this form of "tren" (dienolone) written is 19-norandrosta4,9diene-3,17dione.
 
FRITZBLITZZ said:
All I know is there are around 6 versions of standard AAS that have swapped out segments of the molicule for Dien and Dion and it ranges from Tren, NPP, Primo, EQ, Phera, 1-Test, and maybe others. I have seen them on black sites that are not quite as hidden as UGLs but more hidden then the real RC companies.
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Yep. Such seemingly small differences....but think about how very differently some of those compounds work.
 
Wow. LOL. We carried away this MENT thread. BTW.....My bottle arrives tomorrow. :-)
 
Renew1 said:
Wow. LOL. We carried away this MENT thread. BTW.....My bottle arrives tomorrow. :-)
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My bottle arrives tomorrow too. I'll save it for my Test cycle in May. I'll tag you guys when I log it, and we'll all see how good it goes Preworkout with Test and Nanodrol.
 
Trenavar is incredible at the right dosage (150mg for me). I have never experienced such awesome strength, it makes you a metabolic furnace, and awesome libido. Dry and no need for an AI - I really believe it truly converts to tren at a decent percentage. Boy did it drive my hematocrit up; by the end of the 8 weeks I would literally get short of breath getting out of bed. Also the only compound I’ve ever used that legit made me rage, but it’s easy to manage by reminding yourself it’s all in your head and other people aren’t at fault.

Never used prodienelone or dienelone, but all I’ve read says they are wet and side-heavy (and very powerful).
 
share12 will get you 12% off of Bear Strength btw. There’s only one site I’ve found it on so figure it out
 
Hyde said:
Never used prodienelone or dienelone, but all I’ve read says they are wet and side-heavy (and very powerful).
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I haven't either but I've seen the gains on dienolone and they are crazy... but yeah I hear the sides are scary.
 
210LBS said:
They call it "tren" but it's not really tren. Trendione (trenavar) is actually a different compound that converts to trenbolone. But this "tren" actually converts to dienolone. It's a 19-nortestosterone group. It's crazy how similar the compounds look - estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione vs estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione and yet they are different. I think another way you may see this form of "tren" (dienolone) written is 19-norandrosta4,9diene-3,17dione.
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Phdatabase!!!
 
I'm still trying to figure this compound out. I already bought 4 bottles so I kinda pulled the shot first and now I'm asking questions later. I'm mainly trying to figure out how you can dose 45mg on Mon & Thurs without much worry of estro other than AI on hand. But You cant do the same total MGs just 30mg Mon/ Wed/ Fri and maybe just 12.5 Asin on saturday? could someone just give me more of an idea how to treat this drug. I have plenty on notes both on Trest and MENT already evernoted so I know the facts but I'm missing the FEEL. Help me out
 
FRITZBLITZZ said:
I'm still trying to figure this compound out. I already bought 4 bottles so I kinda pulled the shot first and now I'm asking questions later. I'm mainly trying to figure out how you can dose 45mg on Mon & Thurs without much worry of estro other than AI on hand. But You cant do the same total MGs just 30mg Mon/ Wed/ Fri and maybe just 12.5 Asin on saturday? could someone just give me more of an idea how to treat this drug. I have plenty on notes both on Trest and MENT already evernoted so I know the facts but I'm missing the FEEL. Help me out
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That will probably work too.
Just feel it out nice and slowly.
Just the longer I have it in me the more sides I feel.
That's just me personally 45 mg spread through out the day feels different than just pre workout.
 
Cgkone said:
That will probably work too.
Just feel it out nice and slowly.
Just the longer I have it in me the more sides I feel.
That's just me personally 45 mg spread through out the day feels different than just pre workout.
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So I'm kinda fukking stoked to try this out. You know I'm on an experimental cruise. After about 6 weeks of just cruise and I have a full idea of how it;s treating me. Do you think I could add this in for 1 month and take it slow 2-3 tim es a week, without messing up my cruise progress other than boosting it for 1 month? I think I will have BW on week 6 just to see how everything is reacting. So far I'm getting results that I really didn't think would show so quickly but it's starting to become impressive. I think it would be fine to throw this in just for 1 month what's your opinion?
 
Very interested to see the reviews from everyone who is currently getting it in, keep us updated!!

Anyone taking a cycle support with it? Even if you’re only running it 2-3 times a week.
 
Geoffr said:
Very interested to see the reviews from everyone who is currently getting it in, keep us updated!!

Anyone taking a cycle support with it? Even if you’re only running it 2-3 times a week.
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I order their organ shield.
The website is set up so the more add-ons you get the cheaper it is.
Its really right in your face, all.its forcing you to get protection.
I could do with out that part of the ordering process but they do sell lots of methylated stuff so I guess its good.
You literally have to click NO to avoid getting cycle support.
I take....
Fish oil
Garlic
Ashwanda
Cumurin
Dandelion
Milk thistle
L-lysine
Taurine
Gallon h2o
Everday anyways.
 
Have a trest/h drol run coming up on one of my monkeys. 60 mg td trest, 75-100 mg halo, and original plan was 20-30 mg oral trest pwo. Thinking might drop the oral trest and just go with Ment once or twice a week pwo. Just wondering if this is a bad idea? Will my liver grow legs kick it’s way out of my stomach?
 
Hyde said:
The website I found is the first one googling Kodiak Bear Strength.

It’s listed at 59.99 before the 12% off share12 code, so it’s ~54.50 + shipping.
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I tried to order off cgkone suggested site but I think they were sold out. Wouldn’t add it to cart and I tried multiple times. Think you guys bought them all out and broke it lol. Used that discount code though and got a few on the way.
 
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