99% of the Turk being sold is useless bunk... Just a fact, sorry you waste tons of money on garbage and filler...
My reply on this isn't directly to you, it's a general reply to the thread as a whole and includes my personal recent experience with using Ecdy-Plex.
This is a subject that it always amazes me that people post about and reply about in such insulting and overview terms; when there was the big arguing thread, I had said the reason I stayed out of that is because with Arjuna Turkestanica, it reminded me more of politics than supplements bc people just picked a side, blindly believed what they want to believe, and didn't want to learn, they just wanted to be right.
The reality with Arjuna Turkestanica, Beta Ecdysterone, and pretty much all plant sterols to begin with is that there is going to be differences in standardizations between brands - but also, that these ingredients simply work better for some people than others.
It amazes me how with Arjuna Turkestanica for example, if someone says it worked well for them, there would be people that would bash them and tell them that it didn't or that it couldn't, etc. Some of the people saying things like that were saying it because it didn't work well for them, but many hadn't even tried the same brands or hadn't tried it at all and were just repeating what others were saying.
I'm not one to tell someone that something can't work for them if they say they got good results from it. I've gotten good results from supplements in the past that didn't work for a lot of other people; and I've gotten zero results from some things that worked great for others. Different things work different for different people. Example - back in the original ph days, everyone loved Ergopharm 1AD - but it did absolutely nothing for me. Zero results even at triple the dose. Does that mean it sucked? No, it just means it didn't work for me.
Similarly, but in reverse, and this correlates to this conversation because this ingredient was a plant sterol, but back during that same time period, Biotest had Methoxy-7 and everyone bashed it and said that it didn't work - it worked great for me personally, albeit at double the recommended dose. But would I argue with someone that said it didn't? No, because I realize that it it didn't seem to work for most people and also that with all plant sterols, people can respond differently.
My point is that different things work different for different people, especially with plant sterol ingredients.
The mean spiritedness and misinformation on here about ingredients like Arjuna Turkesterone and Beta Ecdysterone is why I never talk about any of our products that have them in there, but overall feedback on them is very good. But if you look at our write ups, we don't overhype them or make unrealistic claims about them - and I tell anyone that asks me about them that some people are going to like them and find them good, and other people are going to find them incredible, but it really just comes down to individual response.
An interesting but true story on here - I just started back working out several weeks ago after not being able to train for a year and 4 months due to a severe accident. My original plan was to start back for a month on Recomp20 & Ursa-Gel and then start my big stack of Anabolic XT, Anabolic Effect, Phosphatidic Acid XT. I had decided to start on Ecdy-Plex (Beta Ecdysterone & Arjuna Turkestanica) based on how good the feedback on it was from customers, a good friend of mine that is a pro boxer, and then a thread on here that someone started about how great of results they got from it and several other well respected members had posted in that they had gotten great results as well.
I don't talk about Ecdy-Plex on here, don't try to promote Ecdy-Plex on here, never even did an intro thread on it on here - bc I wanted to avoid the drama and headache and the mean spiritedness from some on here that bash on the ingredients. The feedback thread on it was posted by a member that I don't have any connection to, and others chimed in and their experiences matched his - and all of it matched the feedback of one of my good friends that is a pretty elite athlete, and honestly I had been surprised at how much he liked it himself. So comically, a thread started by a member here wound up convincing me to add Ecdy-Plex to my Recomp20 and Ursa-Gel stack - and I'm super glad that I did because it has worked better for me for strength that I could have ever expected, especially strength late in my workouts. I've always struggled late in my workouts bc I train heavy and with minimal rest, and I've been extremely happy that I've seriously had to have a self help talk with myself about pacing myself and slowing down my weight increases bc I'm still coming off a long layoff. Strength and fullness are definitely up big time with Ecdy-Plex, but one other thing that was mentioned by several in the feedback thread was that a couple of people mentioned that they felt like they'd gotten leaner, even without trying to. I measured my waist yesterday and despite tripling my carb intake from when I was focused on leaning out over the last few months, I've lost a half inch on my waist in the last 3 weeks.
Everyone will respond different to different things, and especially with plant sterol ingredients - and there is definitely a problem in the supplement industry with brands not meeting label claims, I talk about that probably more than anyone else on here - but there definitely are some Arjuna Turkestanica and Beta Ecdysterone products that work very well for many of us.
Sorry for the super long post, but I wanted to explain thoroughly, and I hope that it helps people.
Basically, there's no way to know if "methylation" would make turk stronger. It might help, it might make it worse or even completely inactive. 
. So massive amounts of methyl b12 and betanine combined with massive amount of turkesterone = some methylturkesterone 
