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Mdrol *Good and Bad experiences*

Subbed Craigmatthew!! In my personal experience (6 super-drol cycles) the best gains are seen from days 7-18. I don't suggest cutting it off at 2 weeks. Week 3 has always been golden for me. Now week 4 is a different story. The gains seem to slow and the sides start to increase. I never run it 4 weeks anymore myself. But everyone responds differently to these compounds, so you have to be willing to experiment on yourself!!:fool2: Trial and error is what works in life's laboratory!! :study:Oh yeah, and Pantera, I take 4 grams of Vitamin C on non-training days, and 8 grams on training days. I always take 2 grams 1 hour before every workout to control cortisol. DHEA on-cycle should be used only on training days IMO. This is because I take it for my PCT's. If you are not planning on using it for PCT however, you could take 100 mg. everyday while on-cycle. Again, I would take the whole 100 mg. 1 hour before training.:thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
hey thundergod, did you still get similar strength gains in your later cycles (5-6) compared to you first cycle of SD?
 
P4D2A022 said:
hey thundergod, did you still get similar strength gains in your later cycles (5-6) compared to you first cycle of SD?
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The first 2 cycles were golden as a standalone. Cycle #3 was a little less impressive! The last 3 times I've used it in a stack situation with other compounds and I was good to go again. I only use it about twice per year to keep my receptors fresh to it. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
P4D2A022 said:
hey bro, thanks for the feedback! you prob ran it w some test right?
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No sir. I ran it the fourth time in a bridge-cycle with Phera leading the first 3 weeks and then switching to Super for the last 3 weeks. That was a good cycle, but it lasted too long for my taste. I prefer short 3 weekers now exclusively. The fifth time was with some BioScineces' Methoxy TST which worked very well. This last Blitz-Krieg cycle that I finished I used the Super along with Epi and D-bol. That was freakin' outta sight! I will repeat that cycle some time in the future for sure. As of right now, I'm not following the same cycle twice. I've got a humongous stash right now that'll keep me busy mixing and matching for quite some time! I still feel that Super-Drol is the absolute strongest LEGAL compound that you can get at this present time. Who knows what they'll come out with in the future?!! I can't wait to see what happens now that Phera, Tren, and Bold are all gettting banned. You know the scientists are working around the clock to come out with new replacements!! :woohoo:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
nice post thunder! super, epi and dbol sounds INSANE! damn never even thought about that. SD is def the strongest to come out, but im not sure its stronger than m1t. cant wait to see what comes out in the future as far as "pro-hormones" come out
 
thundergod said:
Subbed Craigmatthew!! In my personal experience (6 super-drol cycles) the best gains are seen from days 7-18. I don't suggest cutting it off at 2 weeks. Week 3 has always been golden for me. Now week 4 is a different story. The gains seem to slow and the sides start to increase. I never run it 4 weeks anymore myself. But everyone responds differently to these compounds, so you have to be willing to experiment on yourself!!:fool2: Trial and error is what works in life's laboratory!! :study:Oh yeah, and Pantera, I take 4 grams of Vitamin C on non-training days, and 8 grams on training days. I always take 2 grams 1 hour before every workout to control cortisol. DHEA on-cycle should be used only on training days IMO. This is because I take it for my PCT's. If you are not planning on using it for PCT however, you could take 100 mg. everyday while on-cycle. Again, I would take the whole 100 mg. 1 hour before training.:thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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haha you're like me and the vitamin C! I dose that stuff high! Seems to work great and never get run down or sick either. You think for a 10/10/10 Mdrol cycle, and 3 week nolva PCT would be sufficient, 20/20/10? or rather run the nolva for 4 weeks?
 
Craigmatthew said:
haha you're like me and the vitamin C! I dose that stuff high! Seems to work great and never get run down or sick either. You think for a 10/10/10 Mdrol cycle, and 3 week nolva PCT would be sufficient, 20/20/10? or rather run the nolva for 4 weeks?
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The 3 week PCT would be fine with the 3 week cycle IMO! But I would suggest doing the M-Drol 10/10/20 or maybe even 10/20/20. How big are you and how long have you been training? That's what we need to know before giving you a real dosing scheme. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
The 3 week PCT would be fine with the 3 week cycle IMO! But I would suggest doing the M-Drol 10/10/20 or maybe even 10/20/20. How big are you and how long have you been training? That's what we need to know before giving you a real dosing scheme. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I've been training 5years, and I'm 200lbs and 8% bf :)
 
Craigmatthew said:
I've been training 5years, and I'm 200lbs and 8% bf :)
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In that case, I'd go with the 10/20/20 since you're that big and been training for that long. And the Nolva @20/20/10 would be sufficient IMO!! Please log it so the rest of us can enjoy the ride with you!! :woohoo:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
In that case, I'd go with the 10/20/20 since you're that big and been training for that long. And the Nolva @20/20/10 would be sufficient IMO!! Please log it so the rest of us can enjoy the ride with you!! :woohoo:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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haha I'm a little scared to run m-drol 1st time at that dose... am i wise or a chicken? I'm not sure!
 
IMO,cycles aren't set in stone.With something like m drol I would plan for a short low dosed cycle.It's powerfull and full of sides so it only makes sence.Now if you fel the need to up the dose and/or extend the cycle,then go ahead.You didn't sign a contract tu run it at x amount for x amount of time.I just started a new log in the cycle info section for my havoc cycle."Pantera's vulgar display of power!!!"If you want to check it out you'll notice I don't secify a length of time or exact doses.Just a guideline that will be played out by ear during the cycle.
 
Craigmatthew said:
haha I'm a little scared to run m-drol 1st time at that dose... am i wise or a chicken? I'm not sure!
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Well check this out, I just spoke to Matt Cahill (DS Pres) over on bb boards. Was basically asking him about running SD and methods for PCT, this is what came of it (rough draft)

SD:
Days 1-4: 30mg
Days 5-21: 20mg
Days 19-42: PCT

For PCt IMO Nolva 40/30/20 (but Matt didn't discuss this)

So basically you have a three week SD cycle, but you frontload the SD, then folow it by a 3 week PCT, with a 2-3 day overlap into the cycle. IMO looks interesting.
 
Great info here! My bottle of m-drol is stares at me every day as I get my other supps. Like you craigmatthew, I have yet to run it, and debating a cycle. Some of the horror stories scare me, but there are many successes as well. Just gotta try it I guess. . .
 
tnick7 said:
Well check this out, I just spoke to Matt Cahill (DS Pres) over on bb boards. Was basically asking him about running SD and methods for PCT, this is what came of it (rough draft)

SD:
Days 1-4: 30mg
Days 5-21: 20mg
Days 19-42: PCT

For PCt IMO Nolva 40/30/20 (but Matt didn't discuss this)

So basically you have a three week SD cycle, but you frontload the SD, then folow it by a 3 week PCT, with a 2-3 day overlap into the cycle. IMO looks interesting.
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Interesting way to run it, 30mgs for a beginner like me might be a bit rough, even if it is for 4 days, even running it at 20mg's at the start with feeling how 10mg's is may be silly.

the PCT overlap is interesting, what are others thoughts on this?
 
Craigmatthew said:
Interesting way to run it, 30mgs for a beginner like me might be a bit rough, even if it is for 4 days, even running it at 20mg's at the start with feeling how 10mg's is may be silly.

the PCT overlap is interesting, what are others thoughts on this?
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I though this was quite high too. At first he said 40mg frontload then down to 20-30mg, but I told him it was my first time with SD and this is what he recommended/suggested.

The idea of overlapping PCT was so you are ready to start returning to homeostasis as soon as you finish the cycle.

I like the look of it, but I too would be wary of running it at those doses for a first time
 
tnick7 said:
I though this was quite high too. At first he said 40mg frontload then down to 20-30mg, but I told him it was my first time with SD and this is what he recommended/suggested.

The idea of overlapping PCT was so you are ready to start returning to homeostasis as soon as you finish the cycle.

I like the look of it, but I too would be wary of running it at those doses for a first time
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yeah the over lapping of PCT might have merit, need others to jump in and give opinions.
 
M-drol PCT (draft)

Tamoxifen Citrate(mg) 30/20/20/10/-/-/-/-
6-oxo(trione)(pills) 1/2/2/3/3/2/2/1
Liver support(g) 1/1/1/1/-/-/-/-
P-5-P 150/100/50/25 (weeks 1-4)
Lean Xtreme (week 3 onwards)

Feel free to add things or play with dosages and weeks.
 
pantera101 said:
I usually start test boosters 2-3 days before the cycle is done,and nolva the last day of the cycle.
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Craig, I would say that in addition to my PM, I would advise you making that first week overlap the pct a couple days like pantera advised. Maybe make that first "week" a 10 day week, such as if you started on monday, your last m-drol dosage would be on a sunday, and you should make your first dosage on pct for an extra 3 days (starting on the friday), then onto the 7 day week. Clear as mud? :blink:
 
Just a question, But don't you think alot of the strength gains that people get from mdrol comes from the mountains of carbs people are eating while on mdrol ????? Know don't that the compound has something to do with it but I'm just saying.
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99vorsi said:
Just a question, But don't you think alot of the strength gains that people get from mdrol comes from the mountains of carbs people are eating while on mdrol ????? Know don't that the compound has something to do with it but I'm just saying.
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I didn't eat a ton of carbs with it, only a little over what i'd normally eat, I ate 300 calories over maintenance.
 
ecu19 said:
Craig, I would say that in addition to my PM, I would advise you making that first week overlap the pct a couple days like pantera advised. Maybe make that first "week" a 10 day week, such as if you started on monday, your last m-drol dosage would be on a sunday, and you should make your first dosage on pct for an extra 3 days (starting on the friday), then onto the 7 day week. Clear as mud? :blink:
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yeah bro, so start the pct 3 days before my mdrol cycle ends? :)
 
99vorsi said:
Just a question, But don't you think alot of the strength gains that people get from mdrol comes from the mountains of carbs people are eating while on mdrol ????? Know don't that the compound has something to do with it but I'm just saying.
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Nah, cuz when I eat a ton of carbs without the use of anabolics, I just get :donut:
 
Craigmatthew said:
Cool, yeah I have both mdrol and hdrol, and have tried epi already, deciding which to run next, hdrol for 5 weeks, or low dose mdrol for 3....
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H-drol for 5 weeks is a treat. Hdrol's all about losing body fat and gaining muscle. Jump on the hdrol train. It'll get you were you wanna be.
 
JonLanni said:
H-drol for 5 weeks is a treat. Hdrol's all about losing body fat and gaining muscle. Jump on the hdrol train. It'll get you were you wanna be.
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I see what you're saying, and I'm thinking it would be quite similar to my Epidrol cycle I ran. Mdrol is just tempting due to it's great bulking nature.
 
99vorsi said:
Just a question, But don't you think alot of the strength gains that people get from mdrol comes from the mountains of carbs people are eating while on mdrol ????? Know don't that the compound has something to do with it but I'm just saying.
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Lots of carbs never made my rack deads go from 365x4-405x10 in one week.
 
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