Masteron overrated?
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Smont
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Overrated, maybe. Depends on why you wanna use it. I love it, but I don't use it with some hope that it's going to build me a bunch of muscle. I add a little bit to my cycles to get some synergy with the testosterone. Gives me a little strength, if I'm lean it's got some good cosmetic effects and I don't get acne or hairloss from it.
So for me, it's not overrated.
But if it doesn't help you with estrogen management, gives you acne or makes your hair shed, or your looking to pack on size, you will find it overrated.
In low doses along side test and higher doses in a contest scenario it's worth it.
But if looking to build up muscle tissue and looking to build up total mg to your cycle, primo wins all day
So for me, it's not overrated.
But if it doesn't help you with estrogen management, gives you acne or makes your hair shed, or your looking to pack on size, you will find it overrated.
In low doses along side test and higher doses in a contest scenario it's worth it.
But if looking to build up muscle tissue and looking to build up total mg to your cycle, primo wins all day
TESTP89
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Yeah I'm not going on anything else of course but I like to find out more information and thank you again.
I'm finding I cannot fucking eat enough at the moment... I've had over 500 grams of carbs from oats alone in the last day.
And that's without everything else... Nearly 4 litres of goat's milk... Is like being a fucking teenager again lol.
It doesn't touch the sides.. This stuff is mad..
I could fast forever without juice but now it fucks me up so don't do it.
I had so many misconceptions about gear before trying it and am getting proved wrong on many fronts as I knew nothing to be honest but thought I did.
khall1974
Well-known member
I am running 400 test and 300 mast now. I love the synergy between the 2 and my use of an ai is damn near non existent. My aggression and libido are up as well. I am so use to running an oral on the back end but going to let the injectables play out this round. This is my 6th cycle and I always keep my expectations at a realistic approach. Some guys think they will be pros their first cycle.
BCseacow83
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Overrated would depend on what claims are being made TBH.
With each passing day I am realizing more and more than most peoples expectations with MOST things are completely devoid of reality and reason...............steroids are not exempt.
With each passing day I am realizing more and more than most peoples expectations with MOST things are completely devoid of reality and reason...............steroids are not exempt.
khall1974
Well-known member
I concur...chasing the dragon
Hyde
Legend
Pros:
-Increases strength
-Increased libido in many
-Drives protein synthesis, on a per mg basis, similar to most other AAS
-Increased muscle hardening
-Lowers rate of aromatization of testosterone you’re taking
-Decreased water retention, bp, kidney impact accordingly (especially since less test is being converted to estrogen)
-Hairloss/hair growth/virilization sides lower than equivalent dose of test for many (especially women)
-Half the price of Primobolan per mg
Cons:
-Increased libido (can be undesirable)
-Muscles stay flatter/harder to fill out
-Lowering estrogen too much will negatively impact growth and strength potential
-Slightly harder on lipids for some than testosterone, eq, nandrolone or probably even Primobolan
-Hairloss is greater for some than test; as a DHT derivative using a 5AR blocker is useless
-Can still cause acne in some
-Still raises bp, like more of any gear
Like all compounds, it’s excellent for some and a terrible waste of sides/time for others. It’s going to depend on how you respond to different steroids and what you are trying to accomplish and what you will put up with.
If someone wanted to get as big/strong as possible I would never direct them to Masteron. I would put them on big doses of test along with solid doses of some combo of nandrolone, tren, & Anavar or Anadrol. Or a boatload of Trest and Anavar. And most people would get gyno immediately, be horrible bloated messes with insane bp that would be murdering their kidneys, cramps, pumps, insomnia, crazy sweats. Nevermind bloodwork being trashed internally.
We have to operate in reality: the right tools for the job will be needs-based & based on individual response. Most people can’t take too much crap, and don’t respond well to bigger doses or the side effect potential of many compounds. I do great with adding Masteron vs just upping doses of literally anything else. It’s a great way to use more gear while minimizing side effect increases.
-Increases strength
-Increased libido in many
-Drives protein synthesis, on a per mg basis, similar to most other AAS
-Increased muscle hardening
-Lowers rate of aromatization of testosterone you’re taking
-Decreased water retention, bp, kidney impact accordingly (especially since less test is being converted to estrogen)
-Hairloss/hair growth/virilization sides lower than equivalent dose of test for many (especially women)
-Half the price of Primobolan per mg
Cons:
-Increased libido (can be undesirable)
-Muscles stay flatter/harder to fill out
-Lowering estrogen too much will negatively impact growth and strength potential
-Slightly harder on lipids for some than testosterone, eq, nandrolone or probably even Primobolan
-Hairloss is greater for some than test; as a DHT derivative using a 5AR blocker is useless
-Can still cause acne in some
-Still raises bp, like more of any gear
Like all compounds, it’s excellent for some and a terrible waste of sides/time for others. It’s going to depend on how you respond to different steroids and what you are trying to accomplish and what you will put up with.
If someone wanted to get as big/strong as possible I would never direct them to Masteron. I would put them on big doses of test along with solid doses of some combo of nandrolone, tren, & Anavar or Anadrol. Or a boatload of Trest and Anavar. And most people would get gyno immediately, be horrible bloated messes with insane bp that would be murdering their kidneys, cramps, pumps, insomnia, crazy sweats. Nevermind bloodwork being trashed internally.
We have to operate in reality: the right tools for the job will be needs-based & based on individual response. Most people can’t take too much crap, and don’t respond well to bigger doses or the side effect potential of many compounds. I do great with adding Masteron vs just upping doses of literally anything else. It’s a great way to use more gear while minimizing side effect increases.
TESTP89
Member
Yeah think I'm going to avoid in the future or some say use a very low dosage and it can keep estrogen sides lower...
Tbh for what I'm looking for...Test and primo is probably it.... Maybe a low dose of Var one day and maybe some npp but this is pushing it.
When I come off I need probably at least 6 months to reevaluate if it's worth.
Tbh for what I'm looking for...Test and primo is probably it.... Maybe a low dose of Var one day and maybe some npp but this is pushing it.
When I come off I need probably at least 6 months to reevaluate if it's worth.
Hyde
Legend
Primo can elevate RBC/hematocrit/hemoglobin a lot more than masteron for some which can mean blood donations, it’s not quite as potent at off-setting estrogen, it’s often brewed lower concentration/ml, it doesn’t drive neurology (strength, skill acquisition) as well, again cost can be 50-80% higher.
Primo is probably the better muscle growth/off-season drug, but not inherently the better bodybuilding drug even. Masteron will certainly be better deep in a cut, aesthetically, unless the athlete struggles with fullness on stage. But for water retentive guys it’s a no brainer for a prep.
Hyde
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I’d say for myself, more drive but not really more aggression. It’s not inherently positive or negative.
Renew1
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Hyde
Legend
It’s better when you stick it in your butt!
Or delts, lats, whatever IM sites you prefer.
Beau
Well-known member
I think that is what NAC is suggesting in his post above.
Twisted45
New member
How you liking it? Just started 300 mast 300ntest var at the end last 6 weeks. Wondering if I should I add tren or npp in the mix. Looking to just look good and feel good this summer. I like aggression libido vascularity fullness and veins haha
khall1974
Well-known member
I am really liking mast...first time using it. On week 8 and feeling hard and looking more shredded. Just got bloods and everything checked out wonderful. I am on the mindset of less is more. You should be fine with the var at the end...since my bloods are good I am going to add some at the end as well.
Smont
Legend
Have you tried straight TD DHT by any chance? I've been thinking about trying that. Heard good things and multiple uses. But I'm a little confused, I don't actually understand the difference between straight dht and mast.
Is it basically masteron no ester?
Twisted45
New member
Awesome man was thinking of adding tren in? Or just keep the two only
Hyde
Legend
I’ve at least played with a lot of weird compounds, but never have I seen any preparation of straight DHT or methyl-DHT anywhere. Heard guys used it transdermally some in porn and the like, and also heard anecdotes that injectable is very good at musclebuilding, androgenic side effects notwithstanding. But that’s me just parroting unsubstantiated internet rumors.
Hell no Masteron isn’t DHT! You can give Mast Prop to a woman with less virilization per mg than Testosterone Prop; good luck having them use any quantity of DHT without experiencing transitioning features. Masteron is an anabolic compound that also competes with estrogen and drives neurology. If you want to be harder and drier while preserving or building muscle, you take Masteron over other things. If you want to increase strength without lots of weight gain, or improve learning or practice of competition events/lifts near a contest, you use Masteron.
Smont
Legend
I've heard transdermal dht was good for strength and agression and I heard it would shrink gyno dramatically. I've seen the raws for sale but never a premade product
Hyde
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People aren’t always worried how their actions affect others, and some people are ignorant. Also, contextually people may not really be worried about one-time exposures enough to bother telling someone. And of course, there’s plenty of gay porn out there.
Do not do that with a female partner though lol
NegativeMass
Member
In another forum I follow a thread of enthusiast who make their own transdermals. Definitely seen recipes for DHT transdermal. Pretty sure you can just get DHT in raw form and dissolve it in DMSO.