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Mast/Dien/Desoxy?

Matthersby

Matthersby

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Which would you run on a cut? For the most strength and size retained?
No Tren wanted this year.
Also running Winnie or Var
MK677, possibly S4
Low dose Clen and moderate dose T3
 
Dien and Desoxy together, var first then add winny last 4, MK, yes S4, no clen, definitely T3.

That’s my opinion.
 
Matthersby said:
I can search some logs, but what would you think doses for those stacked would look like? 350/350?
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That’d be good, 50mg of each a day or 100 eod, unless you have found the enanthates. Should be a surprising recomping effect.

I’ve seen references to as much as 200 of each a day solo. I wouldn’t.

I think you know how to use the rest for sure.
 
Old Witch said:
You going to keep the trest in with your trt on this stack?
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Yes, I’ve found it’s more effective to only cruise it 4-6 months or so tops. 150/week seems to be the dose with the least side effects but with plenty of noticeable anabolic effects. Plus all the libido, energy, etc... It’s so impressive, you can use a strong oral, finish the oral in 30-35 days, and two weeks after discontinuing the oral, not one bit of strength or size lost.
 
Old Witch said:
That’d be good, 50mg of each a day or 100 eod, unless you have found the enanthates. Should be a surprising recomping effect.

I’ve seen references to as much as 200 of each a day solo. I wouldn’t.

I think you know how to use the rest for sure.
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I haven’t used Desoxy-T, hoping the irritability and anxiety sides are easier than Mast. Dien I wasn’t blown away with but I didn’t notice over 11 weeks quite a good bit of leaning out and vascularity. Definitely more like a Mast then a Tren for me. Even pushed dose over 500 at one point. Definitely needs a strong oral alongside, or another injectable, or both. I may try another source too. I think I did see had it... I think.
 
Not a big fan of mast, I don't know where the hype comes from. It's overpriced and it really shines say pre contest if you're really lean but why take it for that if you're not competing? It doesn't last and you won't add anything in terms of musclesize.
 
Chados said:
Not a big fan of mast, I don't know where the hype comes from. It's overpriced and it really shines say pre contest if you're really lean but why take it for that if you're not competing? It doesn't last and you won't add anything in terms of musclesize.
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The hype comes from running it with test, tren and injectable SD. Which is now insanely popular among hardcore gym bros.

Regular old guy gym rats like us... maybe let’s not and say we did.
 
My usual source is dried up for Dienolone. I may dig around cause it was nice for vascularity and with a strong oral, I could shred up nicely. Really undecided on this one. Mast is out for me I think.

Potentially I think:
300/NPP
300/Desoxy T
50ED Winnie
T3 dose undecided - but it’s a given for me. Clen-like results with zero sides.
Maaaaaybe some S4
 
Fueled Passion did some good logging on here using desoxyT, dien, & both combined. He felt desoxy, while dry, really seemed to increase his estrogen sensitivity - basically combining it back in with dienelone made controlling gyno a real priority (and he was very lean already).

I would do 50-100mg Proviron daily over mast if you have access to it - would help balance the above conundrum and it’s just great.

If you use S23 in lieu of Var and winny as your cutting oral and don’t use mast or proviron, your entire stack is actually legal to fly with, btw.

Also, aren’t you hyperthyroidal? Why T3 when you could just not force down a jar of peanut butter daily??
 
Hyde said:
Fueled Passion did some good logging on here using desoxyT, dien, & both combined. He felt desoxy, while dry, really seemed to increase his estrogen sensitivity - basically combining it back in with dienelone made controlling gyno a real priority (and he was very lean already).

I would do 50-100mg Proviron daily over mast if you have access to it - would help balance the above conundrum and it’s just great.

If you use S23 in lieu of Var and winny as your cutting oral and don’t use mast or proviron, your entire stack is actually legal to fly with, btw.

Also, aren’t you hyperthyroidal? Why T3 when you could just not force down a jar of peanut butter daily??
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I’ve read every one of em. He’s ran Dien all the way to 800+ !!!!
I’m just slightly on the higher end, but technically most of us are that use PED’s year round, it increases thyroid function. This is just for later this year’s cut planning.
I’m months away from even getting it all ordered and ready. Still want another 30lbs but I’ll be honest, I’m gaining faster than I ever have. Not all good weight either.
 
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