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Mass Xodus - Test/EQ/IGF log

Xodus I'm more curious what the blend was...perhaps that is why it was so painful. The prop was pry crashing but I have no idea what blend balkan/stealth uses. It usually says what oil and BA/BB% they use on the vial or satchel whichever it was.

Maybe it had too high of BA content. Was it 100mg/ml or higher?

I'm just curious as someone I know might be working on a lil home experiment.

Not sure about the ba but i think they use apricot oil if i am correct. It was some different oil
 
Can't say that it did or not, really. It hurt so f'ing bad that is all I know. Never again. Interesting hypothesis. You can't get real world info over on his board as its a bunch of nuthuggers and kids.

Alin IS Balkan. It is the same stuff, made in the same place, just different packaging.

thats what i thought. i mean BD went down and just after Balkan came out with really similiar compounds and layout. He must use alot of BA to give you that sting that makes you feel like alot of test is crystalizing but itll never change my mind, alin and scammer go hand and hand in my book, selective scammer imo. Its funny because posts on his board get deleted so often, its just a front to advertise his greatness and make more sales. Id like to see the guy face to face really and b1tch slap him.

For the guy asking on the oil i know that the old stealth products from when he was still making BD was made with peach oil.
 
Xodus I'm more curious what the blend was...perhaps that is why it was so painful. The prop was pry crashing but I have no idea what blend balkan/stealth uses. It usually says what oil and BA/BB% they use on the vial or satchel whichever it was.

Maybe it had too high of BA content. Was it 100mg/ml or higher?

I'm just curious as someone I know might be working on a lil home experiment.

Yeah, 100mg/ml. Nothing listed as far as content on the sachet or site.

I think it is the BA content.

If your friend needs a lab rat or other research animal, let me know.
 
thats what i thought. i mean BD went down and just after Balkan came out with really similiar compounds and layout. He must use alot of BA to give you that sting that makes you feel like alot of test is crystalizing but itll never change my mind, alin and scammer go hand and hand in my book, selective scammer imo. Its funny because posts on his board get deleted so often, its just a front to advertise his greatness and make more sales. Id like to see the guy face to face really and b1tch slap him.

For the guy asking on the oil i know that the old stealth products from when he was still making BD was made with peach oil.

It is peach oil. The guys from BD went on to become Axio Labs, don't think he was part of that. It is confirmed that Alin IS Balkan though and can supply links via PM.

I agree with the selective scamming part too.
 
It has been a busy 2 weeks. My move was completed on last friday, got my rack set back up but my few workouts have been so so.

Just lacking motivation and strength has dipped.

My diet SUCKED during the week of the move, eating out twice a day with maybe a shake on some days. Getting back on track now.

I hope that strength starts to rise again now that the major stress is gone and eating/sleeping gets back to normal.

Weight has been holding steady, but it looks like a little fat gain/bloating from the crap I was shoveling into my mouth.

Another delay on the Neovar beta so I will be starting IGF and HCG shortly. Atrophy is starting to set in now.

So far, no real sides to speak of, oily forehead, a slight increase in acne, slight increase in body hair, and the injects are painless.

Pluses - veins are more pronounced, feel f*cking GREAT, alpha mentality is in full affect. I swear women can smell the test flowing through you as the 'attention' has increased a lot. Maybe its just springtime and women are horny as hell again, dunno, but I'm enjoying it.
 
It has been a busy 2 weeks. My move was completed on last friday, got my rack set back up but my few workouts have been so so.

Just lacking motivation and strength has dipped.

My diet SUCKED during the week of the move, eating out twice a day with maybe a shake on some days. Getting back on track now.

I hope that strength starts to rise again now that the major stress is gone and eating/sleeping gets back to normal.

Weight has been holding steady, but it looks like a little fat gain/bloating from the crap I was shoveling into my mouth.

Another delay on the Neovar beta so I will be starting IGF and HCG shortly. Atrophy is starting to set in now.

So far, no real sides to speak of, oily forehead, a slight increase in acne, slight increase in body hair, and the injects are painless.

Pluses - veins are more pronounced, feel f*cking GREAT, alpha mentality is in full affect. I swear women can smell the test flowing through you as the 'attention' has increased a lot. Maybe its just springtime and women are horny as hell again, dunno, but I'm enjoying it.

i've said this before as well! about 3-4 weeks in my recent first run with test i noticed the same thing begin to happen. the first time i noticed it was in the mall. either i had something on my face from lunch or chicks were smelling the test coming out of me LOL but every chick i passed made an effort to make eye contact, smiled, and i would even go as far as saying some blushed a little. and i'm not one to brag, nor am i a ladie's man per se, but damn that sure did make me feel like the man. now don't get me wrong, i get my fair share, but definitely not like that!! hmmmmmmmm ..when am i going back on again, june??? i might have to bump that date up a month! hahaha
 
i've said this before as well! about 3-4 weeks in my recent first run with test i noticed the same thing begin to happen. the first time i noticed it was in the mall. either i had something on my face from lunch or chicks were smelling the test coming out of me LOL but every chick i passed made an effort to make eye contact, smiled, and i would even go as far as saying some blushed a little. and i'm not one to brag, nor am i a ladie's man per se, but damn that sure did make me feel like the man. now don't get me wrong, i get my fair share, but definitely not like that!! hmmmmmmmm ..when am i going back on again, june??? i might have to bump that date up a month! hahaha


That is EXACTLY what I am talking about.

I love it!

:bow28:
 
I played chemist tonight! Mixed up my AA solution for IGF and recon'ed it. I used 4ml AA solution. Each 10iu on the pin is 25mcg. Shot that bilaterally into my tris, ~12.5mcg per, post workout.

Also recon'ed my HCG into 2ml of BW. Haven't shot that yet. I know you can do it both ways, but anyone with experience want to give some insight? SubQ or IM? Any advantage or preference? I know those using HCG for fat loss are doing subQ into the belly.

Never done a subQ inject, hell never did an IM before this either though.

Spring is DEFINITELY in the air around here... I went out last night to chat with my favorite bartender who I would REALLY like to get with, but thats another story. I was nursing a pint of Guinness when a tall, smoking blonde came in after her shift at the hospital, we chatted it up for a bit, played a few games of pool, then it was game on. Headed back to her place for 'cardio'.

Not trying to brag, its just been a while...

I probably fuct my odds with the bartender as I probably look like a man whore now, but that whole bird in hand thing... You don't pass up a 6' blonde looking to f*ck.

I LOVE TEST! Do I HAVE to come off????
 
I shot the Pregnyl SubQ into my belly last night. Pinned E/EQ into my left delt, had a decent workout, did 5x5 stuff to try and get some strength back. Pinned IGF into both outer quads.


Not sure if IGF can cause cramping, but all day today I had some serious hamstring cramps, like the kind you get when you swim. Hope they go away as it started to impair my squats during the last set.

Off to eat!
 
I played chemist tonight! Mixed up my AA solution for IGF and recon'ed it. I used 4ml AA solution. Each 10iu on the pin is 25mcg. Shot that bilaterally into my tris, ~12.5mcg per, post workout.

Also recon'ed my HCG into 2ml of BW. Haven't shot that yet. I know you can do it both ways, but anyone with experience want to give some insight? SubQ or IM? Any advantage or preference? I know those using HCG for fat loss are doing subQ into the belly.

Never done a subQ inject, hell never did an IM before this either though.

Spring is DEFINITELY in the air around here... I went out last night to chat with my favorite bartender who I would REALLY like to get with, but thats another story. I was nursing a pint of Guinness when a tall, smoking blonde came in after her shift at the hospital, we chatted it up for a bit, played a few games of pool, then it was game on. Headed back to her place for 'cardio'.

Not trying to brag, its just been a while...

I probably fuct my odds with the bartender as I probably look like a man whore now, but that whole bird in hand thing... You don't pass up a 6' blonde looking to f*ck.

I LOVE TEST! Do I HAVE to come off????


TEST is great....except the fact that it eventually makes your tendons and joints weak as hell. Now that I am off I am experiencing crackly brittle tendons. I slacked with IGF-1 and cissus which are a godsend for me. (experience with tendon injuries). anyway.. def keep up IGF-1 and look into some cissus to keep collagen synth up. it is more important than people seem to think (judging by the lack of conversation relating to it)
 
TEST is great....except the fact that it eventually makes your tendons and joints weak as hell. Now that I am off I am experiencing crackly brittle tendons. I slacked with IGF-1 and cissus which are a godsend for me. (experience with tendon injuries). anyway.. def keep up IGF-1 and look into some cissus to keep collagen synth up. it is more important than people seem to think (judging by the lack of conversation relating to it)

i wonder if that's why my forearm strength seems to have gone down ALOT after i got off test. my pressing muscles seem like they can go all day but my forearm tendons just feel weak. and they're pretty well developed imo so it's not like they are undertrained or underdeveloped.
 
i wonder if that's why my forearm strength seems to have gone down ALOT after i got off test. my pressing muscles seem like they can go all day but my forearm tendons just feel weak. and they're pretty well developed imo so it's not like they are undertrained or underdeveloped.

I have found that the collagen synthesis suppression from long cycles with higher doses of Testosterone, when not using supplements or other drugs that promote increased collagen synthesis can really add up; especially PCT when things are trying to get back to normal, the body has been worn down, and estrogen is being suppressed as well (contributing to dry and further weakened and brittled tendons/joints). IMO at least......
 
I played chemist tonight! Mixed up my AA solution for IGF and recon'ed it. I used 4ml AA solution. Each 10iu on the pin is 25mcg. Shot that bilaterally into my tris, ~12.5mcg per, post workout.

Also recon'ed my HCG into 2ml of BW. Haven't shot that yet. I know you can do it both ways, but anyone with experience want to give some insight? SubQ or IM? Any advantage or preference? I know those using HCG for fat loss are doing subQ into the belly.

Never done a subQ inject, hell never did an IM before this either though.

Spring is DEFINITELY in the air around here... I went out last night to chat with my favorite bartender who I would REALLY like to get with, but thats another story. I was nursing a pint of Guinness when a tall, smoking blonde came in after her shift at the hospital, we chatted it up for a bit, played a few games of pool, then it was game on. Headed back to her place for 'cardio'.

Not trying to brag, its just been a while...

I probably fuct my odds with the bartender as I probably look like a man whore now, but that whole bird in hand thing... You don't pass up a 6' blonde looking to f*ck.

I LOVE TEST! Do I HAVE to come off????


congrats on rockin out a hottie. Hospital eh? hmmmm that could be useful.
 
TEST is great....except the fact that it eventually makes your tendons and joints weak as hell. Now that I am off I am experiencing crackly brittle tendons. I slacked with IGF-1 and cissus which are a godsend for me. (experience with tendon injuries). anyway.. def keep up IGF-1 and look into some cissus to keep collagen synth up. it is more important than people seem to think (judging by the lack of conversation relating to it)


Well damn, aren't you a buzz kill...


:lol:
 
I have found that the collagen synthesis suppression from long cycles with higher doses of Testosterone, when not using supplements or other drugs that promote increased collagen synthesis can really add up; especially PCT when things are trying to get back to normal, the body has been worn down, and estrogen is being suppressed as well (contributing to dry and further weakened and brittled tendons/joints). IMO at least......


EQ helps in that dept though, correct?
 
So the Neovar beta came in yesterday, looks like I am stopping the IGF for now. Damnit.

They want us testers to keep quiet about it, so as not to be accused of hyping the product.

I will say that I really enjoyed my last run with Neovar and am looking forward to it.

I just popped 6 caps for pre-workout. :thumbsup: I always enjoy the 'carb up' pump afterwards.

:bb3:

My stomach where I did the HCG feels a little bruised. Haven't noticed any difference with the boys yet, not that I expected to so soon.
 
congrats on rockin out a hottie. Hospital eh? hmmmm that could be useful.


:head:

I do ok with the ladies, esp. if they are sort of obvious about it. Otherwise I am a clueless idiot. :think:

I definitely am a lot more outgoing and confident now and WAY more flirty and charming. I can see how this can be psychologically addictive.

The hospital thing could definitely be useful! Need to find me a vet too.

:icon_lol:
 
So the Neovar beta came in yesterday, looks like I am stopping the IGF for now. Damnit.

They want us testers to keep quiet about it, so as not to be accused of hyping the product.

I will say that I really enjoyed my last run with Neovar and am looking forward to it.

I just popped 6 caps for pre-workout. :thumbsup: I always enjoy the 'carb up' pump afterwards.

:bb3:

My stomach where I did the HCG feels a little bruised. Haven't noticed any difference with the boys yet, not that I expected to so soon.

did you get a full bottle of the beta? i'm curious because lanbane asked for my address to send me the new mystery supp so i'm guessing it's the same thing. i've never used neovar so i'm hoping that is what it is!
 
did you get a full bottle of the beta? i'm curious because lanbane asked for my address to send me the new mystery supp so i'm guessing it's the same thing. i've never used neovar so i'm hoping that is what it is!


Over fulll, and then some. Get this sh*t, cuz Neovar rocks!
 
I am still alive...

Been busy as hell getting situated with the new job and I am not in control of the web filtering software <yet>, so no surfing my favorite sites from work anymore. :aargh:

Been doing a mix of 5x5 and 8x8 work and strength is up again.

I don't like cutting/recomping.

I think I have enough Test/EQ left over to extend this cycle by one additional week, will verify tomorrow. Still contemplating SD to finish.

HCG - Let's just say the boys are back in town... Digging it- This sh!t makes you even hornier than test.

Weight is still holding steady @ ~270 and bf appears to be down more. Love handle area is almost completely gone and measurements are ~2.5 inches lost around my waist. Guesstimating ~3+%(9+lbs) fat loss/lbm gain. Lower ab area is where I am still 'holding' it.

I am slightly bloated too so I expect the bloat to go if/when I hop on SD as that stuff drys/hardens me up pretty good.

My BP seems to be up too. Just a feeling I have, need to verify that.

Had softball practice a few days ago for my spring league and during batting practice, ~28 / 40 were over the fence, the rest were on the fence. This is going to be a fun year. :rofl:

Random thoughts:

Contemplating 12-16 weeks of peptides post-pct then going back on...

Anyone know how to 'shrink' without becoming a squishy POS? It seems guys are impressed by 'big guys', but I don't think chic's dig the look as much. Sure I get noticed more, but maybe I meet/like the wrong kind of women, and no i don't tell them how much I squat. I get hit on by older women a lot <not that there is anything wrong with cougars>, but I would rather date their daughters or women still of child bearing age. That isn't the only reason though. Probably a dumb thought, but its been on my mind recently.
 
yo X.....given your massive size you could cut down and probably get ripped as fcuk!!!

and all the young hotties would be all over you then!!! they do seem to prefer the lean muscular look.

to accomplish this i'd say it's primarily diet dependent.
you'll want to cut your calorie intake while trying to keep your protien count high. it sucks and is hard to do because you'll crave a massive meal with tons of carbs but you'll get used to it after awhile.

to preserve your muscle best you can i recommend continuing to kill it in the gym. also, take your time shrinking. if you drop weight to quickly you will lose more muscle than fat.

just some ideas from what has worked for me.
 
I am still alive...

Been busy as hell getting situated with the new job and I am not in control of the web filtering software <yet>, so no surfing my favorite sites from work anymore. :aargh:

Been doing a mix of 5x5 and 8x8 work and strength is up again.

I don't like cutting/recomping.

I think I have enough Test/EQ left over to extend this cycle by one additional week, will verify tomorrow. Still contemplating SD to finish.

HCG - Let's just say the boys are back in town... Digging it- This sh!t makes you even hornier than test.

Weight is still holding steady @ ~270 and bf appears to be down more. Love handle area is almost completely gone and measurements are ~2.5 inches lost around my waist. Guesstimating ~3+%(9+lbs) fat loss/lbm gain. Lower ab area is where I am still 'holding' it.

I am slightly bloated too so I expect the bloat to go if/when I hop on SD as that stuff drys/hardens me up pretty good.

My BP seems to be up too. Just a feeling I have, need to verify that.

Had softball practice a few days ago for my spring league and during batting practice, ~28 / 40 were over the fence, the rest were on the fence. This is going to be a fun year. :rofl:

Random thoughts:

Contemplating 12-16 weeks of peptides post-pct then going back on...

Anyone know how to 'shrink' without becoming a squishy POS? It seems guys are impressed by 'big guys', but I don't think chic's dig the look as much. Sure I get noticed more, but maybe I meet/like the wrong kind of women, and no i don't tell them how much I squat. I get hit on by older women a lot <not that there is anything wrong with cougars>, but I would rather date their daughters or women still of child bearing age. That isn't the only reason though. Probably a dumb thought, but its been on my mind recently.


well.... my take on it is trying to get as cut as I can without AAS, and then getting even more cut with AAS, and then and only then, putting on LBM again. Therefore I can 'control' my musculature as I put on mass without trying to stay lean, and put on weight with a bf already around 11-13%. the lower the BF%, the easier it is to put on LBM and only LBM while preventing fat gain. It is easier to SEE when your eating too much becuase at very low BF% its easy to tell when things start to change for the worse, and then you can cut back from there.
 
well.... my take on it is trying to get as cut as I can without AAS, and then getting even more cut with AAS, and then and only then, putting on LBM again. Therefore I can 'control' my musculature as I put on mass without trying to stay lean, and put on weight with a bf already around 11-13%. the lower the BF%, the easier it is to put on LBM and only LBM while preventing fat gain. It is easier to SEE when your eating too much becuase at very low BF% its easy to tell when things start to change for the worse, and then you can cut back from there.

hmmmmmmm sounds like something very similar to what i'm doing ;)

i'll have a link in my sig to my ckd diet and hst routine i'm using as my cycle prime probably later today if you guys wanna check it out.

x, sounds like you've been getting the job done though (aka tall blonde hospital chick) :thumbsup:
 
Shedding 15#'s of fat sounds like the plan. Will probably go back on a modified Anabolic Diet, below maintenance, once I am off of the EQ. This stuff made me RAVENOUS. I do hate the 'flatness' of it though.

What are your thoughts on the peptides between cycles? Some say IGF aids fatloss, others say not so much?

These next few months will be filled with additional cardio <softball, football, kickball, etc.> which should help as I despise the treadmill.
 
hmmmmmmm sounds like something very similar to what i'm doing ;)

i'll have a link in my sig to my ckd diet and hst routine i'm using as my cycle prime probably later today if you guys wanna check it out.

x, sounds like you've been getting the job done though (aka tall blonde hospital chick) :thumbsup:

I'm interested in checking out your CKD/HST stuff.

Re the blonde- the sun shines on a dogs ass some days...
 
I'm interested in checking out your CKD/HST stuff.

Re the blonde- the sun shines on a dogs ass some days...


LR3 has done nothing other than increase the rate at which my connective tissue injuries heal. That in itself is a damn good reason for using it...but other than that I havent found it to aid in fatloss or put on any significant muscle tissue (we will so though as AAS grows my fibers....who knows maybe I have more muscle cells from the IGF-1 and I will get bigger than I could have without it....)

peptides are expensive.... I think IGF-1 is somewhat anti-catabolic though which would make it a good addition to between-cycle time.

I also like pGH...

both pGH and IGF-1 make me retain water...which dissapears when I stop using them. pGH helps me burn fat (hard to tell until the water drops off).
 
LR3 has done nothing other than increase the rate at which my connective tissue injuries heal. That in itself is a damn good reason for using it...but other than that I havent found it to aid in fatloss or put on any significant muscle tissue (we will so though as AAS grows my fibers....who knows maybe I have more muscle cells from the IGF-1 and I will get bigger than I could have without it....)

peptides are expensive.... I think IGF-1 is somewhat anti-catabolic though which would make it a good addition to between-cycle time.

I also like pGH...

both pGH and IGF-1 make me retain water...which dissapears when I stop using them. pGH helps me burn fat (hard to tell until the water drops off).


What about HGH frags? mixed reviews as well there. Any experience?
 
i havent had experience with the gh wannabes but i think they are a waste, if youre gonna go with something that boosts gh just use the real deal, if you have the funds. Saizen HGH, jinotropin etc. PEGMGF and IGF-1lr3 are the most appealing to me of all the non HGH peptides. Im gonna run both but i dont think i can go that long, cant justify spending so much dough on stuff like peptides.

X, we need pics bro, your a huge guy fo sho.
 
I am also skeptical on SOME of the gh secretagogues. I think they are becoming more promising....but as of now I personally wouldnt be buying em
 
Why did pudz get BANNED? His last post was like 30mins ago?

EDIT: NM I found it:

Invalid Link Removed


That's a damn shame...
 
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i havent had experience with the gh wannabes but i think they are a waste, if youre gonna go with something that boosts gh just use the real deal, if you have the funds. Saizen HGH, jinotropin etc. PEGMGF and IGF-1lr3 are the most appealing to me of all the non HGH peptides. Im gonna run both but i dont think i can go that long, cant justify spending so much dough on stuff like peptides.

X, we need pics bro, your a huge guy fo sho.


I guess I am going to consider IGF/PegMGF and pGH <but need to read up on it a little more>.

PGCL sounds interesting too, but the shitz don't sound all that appealing.

As far as pix go, not yet, but picture Beelze before he got cut up, just with more hair and less tats.
 
Why did pudz get BANNED? His last post was like 30mins ago?

EDIT: NM I found it:

Invalid Link Removed


That's a damn shame...

yes it is a damn shame. pudz was a VERY knowledgeable and thought provoking member of this board. contributed to a great deal of information on here. seems like they don't want these types around here anymore??
 
yes it is a damn shame. pudz was a VERY knowledgeable and thought provoking member of this board. contributed to a great deal of information on here. seems like they don't want these types around here anymore??
yeah, definitely one of the more thought provoking members around. Always a great thread starter. If they are running him off for bringing up an old post and asking a question regarding it, that is fuct. So is Crowler for 'reporting' it vs. ignoring the PM. I get lots of posts regarding things, but so far the delete button has worked well for me.

Anabolic Innovations and their products are now dead to me. I will NOT recommend them as I have in the past to others.

Pudz, if you still read this board, my email is xodus_am at fastmail.net.

You had far too much insight into lots of things that kept me coming back to this board. Perhaps you will find your home on other boards that I frequent, as I enjoyed your ideas and would hate to see you just lurk.

"Learn Teach Lead" my ass...
 
thats gnikcuf cr ap that they banned him, that guy was one of the smartest guys on here and always had some insightful stuff to say. to ban him over that is so weak. i mean, come on, in reality, nearly this whole board is about using illegal drugs in illegal ways, to ban an OG member as helpful and smart as him sucks big time....
 
yeah, definitely one of the more thought provoking members around. Always a great thread starter. If they are running him off for bringing up an old post and asking a question regarding it, that is fuct. So is Crowler for 'reporting' it vs. ignoring the PM. I get lots of posts regarding things, but so far the delete button has worked well for me.

Anabolic Innovations and their products are now dead to me. I will NOT recommend them as I have in the past to others.

Pudz, if you still read this board, my email is xodus_am at fastmail.net.

You had far too much insight into lots of things that kept me coming back to this board. Perhaps you will find your home on other boards that I frequent, as I enjoyed your ideas and would hate to see you just lurk.

"Learn Teach Lead" my ass...

WELL PUT

x, pm me if you want, i'm in touch with pudz i'll give you his email. i've pointed him to another board i frequent that does not punish its members for doing research.

AM, you guys really need to step away from your money and take a look at AM as a whole and what has happened lately. this is honestly gonna end up like bb at the rate it's declining. and the lack of respect some of your moderators show its members is appalling. this has been brought up repeatedly lately. what do you want, a board full of idiots asking retarded questions on designer steroids? thats basically what its leading to. its the blind leading the blind after all of the knowledgeable members have been BANNED.
 
im still here!


Yes you are! And another fine asset to the board.


Well, technically I should be starting SD this week, but two things:

- I do have enough EQ and E for an additional week.
- I think I'm going to close this with Prop.

It's not that sneaky sh!t, although I hear these amps are painful too. I am prepared this time though, going to be cutting it w/ oil. Haven't decided on dosing yet, probably 115mg/EOD as the amps are 230mg/2ml

<Plan B if my body ~really~ does not like it, will be 2 weeks of SD>

It was a solid 5x5 workout tonight. Very little rest between sets, my shoulders were absolutely swollen, so much so that my fingers were going numb during rest.

Weight is up to 276 after this weekends 'ham fest', bf appears to be the same, but I am getting a bloated look.
:donut:

I know that I haven't been getting enough water lately and I am pretty dehydrated most of the time. With the recent addition of a certain supplement, I am a goddamn furnace, but esp. at night, like sweat soaked pillows and only needing a sheet, type of furnace.

I am convinced that my BP is up, as well as hemacrit levels from the EQ. My vision is blurry sometimes, no headaches or anything else, but I can 'feel' it, It will be interesting to see how quickly it subsides when I come off the EQ.
 
Yes you are! And another fine asset to the board.


Well, technically I should be starting SD this week, but two things:

- I do have enough EQ and E for an additional week.
- I think I'm going to close this with Prop.

It's not that sneaky sh!t, although I hear these amps are painful too. I am prepared this time though, going to be cutting it w/ oil. Haven't decided on dosing yet, probably 115mg/EOD as the amps are 230mg/2ml

<Plan B if my body ~really~ does not like it, will be 2 weeks of SD>

It was a solid 5x5 workout tonight. Very little rest between sets, my shoulders were absolutely swollen, so much so that my fingers were going numb during rest.

Weight is up to 276 after this weekends 'ham fest', bf appears to be the same, but I am getting a bloated look.
:donut:

I know that I haven't been getting enough water lately and I am pretty dehydrated most of the time. With the recent addition of a certain supplement, I am a goddamn furnace, but esp. at night, like sweat soaked pillows and only needing a sheet, type of furnace.

I am convinced that my BP is up, as well as hemacrit levels from the EQ. My vision is blurry sometimes, no headaches or anything else, but I can 'feel' it, It will be interesting to see how quickly it subsides when I come off the EQ.

can you notice any changes in your strength/composition from the mystery supp ON TOP of the gear?
 
can you notice any changes in your strength/composition from the mystery supp ON TOP of the gear?


Nothing yet. Just the all day pump so far. It set in earlier than the previous version and I am at a lower dose this time. It was unbelievable when I started my second bottle and only got better. Previously it was like week 3 when I noticed it starting to lean me out. Also, no GI issues what so ever! I didn't really get any strength increase that I could attribute to the previous version either, just a good 'solid' feel to me, but I am on the lookout for those changes as well.
 
Oh is it the neovar?


Yep.

Now that I think about it, the 'bloating' started to happen around the time I started that as well.

I typically don't respond to creatine products, esp. in regards to water weight gain, and I certainly didn't on the original product. We'll see what happens over the last few weeks on this stuff.

I am feeling 'full' and looking 'pumped' all day long now. Looking forward to a quick workout (probably an 8x8) after work and a late softball game tonight.

Softball is another reason why I need to skip the SD and go with prop. It is a 'beer league' and I usually have two or three during/after the game. Not the best addition to my diet, but ...
 
finish with the prop then. I think you could get away with sdrol preworkout only and still have drinks...if youre feelin froggy!
 
Ribbit!


Decided to include 20mg SD ~ 1hr preworkout - 2 days on now.

Used up the EQ with my last shot the other day.

Whatever bloating I had over the last week is now gone, I look 'normal' again, even the love handle area. Weight is steady @ 276.

I don't feel like this guy anymore:
:donut:

Strength / Endurance is off the hook. Instead of pyramiding my weights up in 5x5 fashion, I've just been doing straight sets at my last sets weight after some light warmup sets, so total poundage is up BIG time.

Rest between sets is ~30-40 secs, ~ 2 mins between exercises. Pump is almost painful/inhibiting. I try not to jump the weight up too much without a spotter, just what I can safely do in a 40X0 tempo, but tonight I was explosive coming out of the hole and had some left in the tank on all lifts, so I will bump it next time around.

I've gotten several comments lately about looking 'wider', while my shoulders have exploded on this cycle, I think the taper is getting way more pronounced and adding to the 'illusion'. I will have to measure my shoulders...
 
Pinned 300mg Test E and HCG yesterday before my softball game.

20mg Superdrol & 1cc Prop into the left delt ~1hr preworkout today.

It was a kickass workout too. Sweating like I just got out of a pool...

I had to bail on my last set of skull crushers as the pumps were ridiculous, my range of motion was ~1/2 of normal.

This prop was WAAAAYYYY smoother than that other sh*t. I'm happy and will run this 1cc @ EOD until the end of the cycle.
 
looks good. why not 10mg superdrol pre? just curious why you are doing 20mg cuz i am using it preworkout only too but at 10mg.
 
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