Mass FX/Hyperdrol x2

Big Diesel

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Im looking for a little info on these two products.

First off id like to say im turning 18 in about 2 weeks.

The reason im planning to try these products out is for the extra energy and strength i can gain, i play rugby 3x per week including a game every saturday morning at 8am. With that set schedule i also play football 2x per week, with a game saturday night around 8pm. I also weight train 4x per week, the routine i use is Westside for Skinny Bastards, so im always training with heavy weights.

Current states are:

Bench Press 225x3
Deadlift 275x3
Squat 300x3

Im hoping these supplements added with my basic whey,multi,fish oil, will help improve my energy and help me avoid the fatigue im always in.

Is it ok to take superpump250 pre-workout, and take Xtend during the workout while taking MASS FX/HYP x2?
 
Big Diesel said:
Im looking for a little info on these two products.

First off id like to say im turning 18 in about 2 weeks.

The reason im planning to try these products out is for the extra energy and strength i can gain, i play rugby 3x per week including a game every saturday morning at 8am. With that set schedule i also play football 2x per week, with a game saturday night around 8pm. I also weight train 4x per week, the routine i use is Westside for Skinny Bastards, so im always training with heavy weights.

Current states are:

Bench Press 225x3
Deadlift 275x3
Squat 300x3

Im hoping these supplements added with my basic whey,multi,fish oil, will help improve my energy and help me avoid the fatigue im always in.

Is it ok to take superpump250 pre-workout, and take Xtend during the workout while taking MASS FX/HYP x2?
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Hey BD. What are your training goals exactly and what information would you like to know about Mass FX and Hyperdrol 2?

The basics of each is MassFX is a Sex Hormone Binding Globulin Inhibitor with a very light Aromatase Inhibitor and nutrient partitioners. SHBG will bind to testosterone, so inhibiting that action creates more free test.

Hyperdrol 2 is an aromatase inhibitor, but much stronger than the little bit in MFx. Aromatase is an enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen. By inhibiting this action, you will have less estrogen and more testosterone. Combined with MFx creating more free test, you can see how the 2 stack together wonderfully.

No PCT is required, in fact I love using both DURING my PCT's :)
 
Sorry, i should have been more specific.

My training goals would be to increase strength, gain a little size, evntually cut. So basiclly 'clean' bulking.


Questions:
Will i notice an increase of energy on the field/less fatigue?

Is this safe for my age (18)?

If i were to cycle these, would it be ideal to up my protein/cal intake even more?

If i was to say be 'tested' for cheating supplements, would ANYTHING in these products cuase a positive test?

Is it ok to use a pre-workout supplement like jack3d or sp250 while cycling these?

Im worried about having lower estrogen while taking this, as at my age im develping, to avoid side effects, would it be ok to do the cycle like this . 1 month on 2 weeks off 1 month on?

Sorry for the mass of questions, i just really like to educate myself before i engage with a product like this.

Thanks
BD

EDIT:
By reading reviews, it seems that both of these products combined will give ALOT better results instead of being used stand alone, how do they engage in which they benifit eachother?

Also, would it better to start the cycle by doing something such as:
Hyperdrol first week stand alone then throw in the mass fx?
 
Big Diesel said:
Sorry, i should have been more specific.

My training goals would be to increase strength, gain a little size, evntually cut. So basiclly 'clean' bulking.


Questions:
Will i notice an increase of energy on the field/less fatigue?
You'll notice more drive and aggression more than energy

Is this safe for my age (18)?
Absolutely 100%

If i were to cycle these, would it be ideal to up my protein/cal intake even more?
Slightly, but not to any great extent. This really depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your cycle.

If i was to say be 'tested' for cheating supplements, would ANYTHING in these products cuase a positive test?
It's possible that you would because these products will boost your testosterone levels. Other than synthetics like Nandrolone (a progestin, not an androgen), androgens are tested by comparing levels of testosterone and epitestosterone. With more testosterone, you can see how this can skew those levels. You're not on steroids, but because your levels may be not in the right ratio, you can come up as being on them.

Is it ok to use a pre-workout supplement like jack3d or sp250 while cycling these?

Absolutely. But they are not a necessity. MassFX will give NO like pumps by itself, stimulating natural endothelial NOS production.

Im worried about having lower estrogen while taking this, as at my age im develping, to avoid side effects, would it be ok to do the cycle like this . 1 month on 2 weeks off 1 month on?
You could, but there really is no need. Your estrogen levels are only targeted in a roundabout fashion. Aromatase is actually what is targeted (the enzyme responsible for changing test to estrogen) and not estrogens.

Sorry for the mass of questions, i just really like to educate myself before i engage with a product like this.
We absolutely encourage this and wish more users would do it!

Thanks
BD

EDIT:
By reading reviews, it seems that both of these products combined will give ALOT better results instead of being used stand alone, how do they engage in which they benifit eachother?

This is all laid out in my 1st post. :)

Also, would it better to start the cycle by doing something such as:
Hyperdrol first week stand alone then throw in the mass fx?
Not a necessity and something I don't think would really add any benefit to your cycle. The 2 really shine when working together, but they do still do very well on their own.
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My answers in bold.
 
Here is my review of Mass Fx and Hyperdrol X2:
I started on MFX on July 1st, and I weighed in at 190lbs.
My meal plan and dosing went as such:
Upon waking- 5am- 1 hx2, 6 egg whites, 1 cup oatmeal
7am: 2 mfx
9am: protein shake (serious Mass by ON)
12noon: lunch- 8oz chicken, cup brown rice 1/2 sweet potato
3pm: 1hx2, 8oz chicken, cup brown rice
6pm 8oz chicken or 12oz tuna, 2 sweet potatoes
630: 2mfx
7pm-830 gym
post workout: 16oz Carbo Gain by Now
9pm: 8oz chicken or 12 oz tuna, 1/4 cup boccli, cup rice
1130pm 2hx2.
I took my last 2 mfx pre workout.
Gains:
I now weigh 200lbs and I am able to press 115lb dumbbells for chest (went from 80lbs)
Pulldowns: went from 150 to 210 for 4
Hack squats I am up to 4 plates on each side (45lbs each)
leg presses: 7 plates on each side.
Let me say this, anyone who has ever seen me post a review on a supp, knows that I tell it like it is, and I don't embelish. But I must say I really saw some great improvements in my workout. Now I am not sure if I should run it for another month or take a break (I want to try Advanced Muscle Science 1-Androsterone UTT ) for my next cycle. Well that is my take on Mfx. Oh one more thing, I did start using Neovar recomped on July 23rd, and that has helped as well. Mfx helped me get the size, and intense workouts, and neo kept me pumped all the time.
 
ABNRanger said:
Here is my review of Mass Fx and Hyperdrol X2:
I started on MFX on July 1st, and I weighed in at 190lbs.
My meal plan and dosing went as such:
Upon waking- 5am- 1 hx2, 6 egg whites, 1 cup oatmeal
7am: 2 mfx
9am: protein shake (serious Mass by ON)
12noon: lunch- 8oz chicken, cup brown rice 1/2 sweet potato
3pm: 1hx2, 8oz chicken, cup brown rice
6pm 8oz chicken or 12oz tuna, 2 sweet potatoes
630: 2mfx
7pm-830 gym
post workout: 16oz Carbo Gain by Now
9pm: 8oz chicken or 12 oz tuna, 1/4 cup boccli, cup rice
1130pm 2hx2.
I took my last 2 mfx pre workout.
Gains:
I now weigh 200lbs and I am able to press 115lb dumbbells for chest (went from 80lbs)
Pulldowns: went from 150 to 210 for 4
Hack squats I am up to 4 plates on each side (45lbs each)
leg presses: 7 plates on each side.
Let me say this, anyone who has ever seen me post a review on a supp, knows that I tell it like it is, and I don't embelish. But I must say I really saw some great improvements in my workout. Now I am not sure if I should run it for another month or take a break (I want to try Advanced Muscle Science 1-Androsterone UTT ) for my next cycle. Well that is my take on Mfx. Oh one more thing, I did start using Neovar recomped on July 23rd, and that has helped as well. Mfx helped me get the size, and intense workouts, and neo kept me pumped all the time.
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Thanks for the review, and congratulations on your results! You've done quite well. Very nice to see your hard work is paying off!

As to if you should keep the cycle going, you've been going for 5 weeks or so, and 8 weeks would be the max I'd want to run MassFX (without a little time away). Divanil tends to lose a bit of effectiveness after 6 or 7 weeks straight, so for longer cycles (like 12 weekers) you need a small break before picking it up again.

If you decide to run the 1-andro, you could use MassFX/Hyperdrol 2 as part of your PCT, and depending on if SHBG effects 1-andro, you may be able to stack that on cycle as well. However, you should take a break before running such a stack if you are done with MassFX (time on=time off).
 
Thanks for the feedback and the advice Joe. I think I will go ahead and take the break, and just keep running the neovar recomped until I am ready to run the 1-andro utt. Any advice on maintenance I should do to keep my gains while breaking before my utt cycle?
 
ABNRanger said:
Thanks for the feedback and the advice Joe. I think I will go ahead and take the break, and just keep running the neovar recomped until I am ready to run the 1-andro utt. Any advice on maintenance I should do to keep my gains while breaking before my utt cycle?
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Just keep your diet and training consistent to let your gains solidify. As long as those 2 stay on point, you'll be able to hit the ground running on your next cycle and have retained all/most of your gains from this last cycle.
 
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