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Hello, Everyone! I just wanted to get some feedback on the following product. It is something I have wanted to do for a very long time, but I never made a decision until now.

In essence, I would like to bring to market the ULTIMATE Plasma Expansion-Vasodilation product.

If I were to ask you "are you interested?", you might respond with "it depends, as we already have a bunch of stim-free pump products on the market". I agree, which is one of the reasons I procrastinated on making this product, but I came up with an idea which would differentiate it from all the rest. I'll explain...

Pump products are comprised of one or sometimes two primary "pump" pathways. These two pathways are vasodilation and plasma expansion. Vasodilation is exactly what its name suggests; the dilation of blood vessels. By opening up the blood vessels, blood is able to more easily flow into the muscles, particularly those we are training. This is one piece of the pump puzzle...and it is effective, but it actually possesses less potential to enhance the pump than the other pathway--plasma expansion.

Plasma expansion is simply an increase in blood volume. By "expanding plasma", you're literally increasing the amount of blood that resides in your blood vessels. This pathway is so powerful that if it is overdone, it can literally kill a person by increasing blood volume to such a large degree that blood pressure goes through the roof, resulting in a heart attack. Fortunately, that isn't possible with legal products, but it does point to the potential of this pathway to enhance the pump.

In short, nothing has the potential to enhance the pump more than increasing blood volume, as the pump is all about the blood itself. The more of it we have, the better our pump is. Now, we can use vasodilators by themselves, but the body will only send as much blood to working muscles as it is able to, as the body's number one priority is keeping us alive by maintaining adequate blood flow to the brain and other organ systems. Sending blood to working muscles is a secondary concern...and a FAR second, at that.

The great news is that by enhancing both of these pathways simultaneously, it not only provides a synergistic effect, but they each make up for the shortcomings of the other. You see, the more we can increase our blood volume, the better the pump will be, but if we want to push as much of that new blood into our working muscles as possible, we need to blow those blood vessels wide open...and that can only be accomplished with vasodilators. Furthermore, vasodilators reduce blood pressure, canceling out any negative effects plasma expanders might have in that area. In other words, vasodilators MAKE MORE ROOM for all that beautiful new blood.

There are two primary methods of increasing blood volume...and when using legal products, both of them need to be maximized. I am not yet going to tell you how I am doing this, but I will say two things about it. One, it is nothing revolutionary. I am simply taking full advantage of what's already available to us. Two, no other company has done this yet; not even close.

This is going to be another low-profit margin product for me, but I am going all-out with this next round of bodybuilding specific products. As you guys know, ProSynthesis-17 and ProSynthesis-BUILD were just released. Then ProSynthesis-PERFORM and a super powerful thyroid-based fat loss product are next on the list...and then this product will come out. Actually, there is a good possibility this product will be released at about the same time as the other two products. We'll see.

After that, I have plans to release some amazing carbs powders around the beginning of the New Year. These will be made to drink solo OR they can be mixed together with protein powders. They will contain nothing but the highest quality ingredients. Unlike EVERY other whole-food product that has been released, you won't see the expensive ingredients down towards the end of the ingredient list as part of some obscure prop bend. Rather, these products will tell you EXACTLY how much you are getting of each and every ingredient, so you will know with certainty that you are getting the highest quality, most nutritive whole-food carb powders on the planet. Personally, I can't wait for these. The flavors will be awesome, making them a pleasure to drink. You will WANT to drink them because they will taste so darn good.

For now, I'll give you one little hint about the pump product. It will be a drinkable product and will contain about 2 POUNDS of active ingredients per container. It will likely be sold in ProSynthesis size jugs. This product will be the first efficacious plasma expander on the market.
 
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Yes, VERY interested in a pump product.

Maybe I missed it, would this be cap or powder? I prefer cap, but if powder, could you make it so I could just mix it with Pro Synthesis Build?
 

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When are you going to start supplying European markets?
 
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When are you going to start supplying European markets?
I'm completely guessing but probably not anytime soon because of shipping costs. Not many ppl wanna pay $30 shipping on a $50 supplement. I don't know if it's gotten better recently but I had to send something overseas to my buddy about 6 months ago and I paid $32 to ship something that weighed about as much as a pack of gum.
When are you going to start supplying European markets?

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Haven't been a person who uses a ton of stim-bomb type pres, always been more interested in stim-free pump stuff, so consider me interested.
 

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Yes, VERY interested in a pump product.

Maybe I missed it, would this be cap or powder? I prefer cap, but if powder, could you make it so I could just mix it with Pro Synthesis Build?
It will be a powder; 2 pounds of powder at that. It's literally impossible to make an encapsulated AND effective plasma expander...either in the supplement world OR with script drugs. Any halfway decent plasma expander--even the injectable ones-are always high volume products.

You could mix it with BUILD, but I absolutely do not recommend it, as oral plasms expanders take a couple of hours for the ingredients within them to maximize plasma levels. Remember, plasma needs to be created by the body...and this can't be done in 30 minutes. Research shows it takes about 2 hour for peak plasma levels to be acheived. Even the nitric oxide boosters in the product take about 2 hours to maximize nitric oxide production. All the ingredients within it were selected because they work perfectly together...and produce optimal effects at the same time.

Therefore, this product should be consumed 2 hours before training, so that you can receive 100% benefit from the product at the beginning of your training session.
 
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It will be a powder; 2 pounds of powder at that. It's literally impossible to make an encapsulated AND effective plasma expander...either in the supplement world OR with script drugs. Any halfway decent plasma expander--even the injectable ones-are always high volume products.

You could mix it with BUILD, but I absolutely do not recommend it, as oral plasms expanders take a couple of hours for the ingredients within them be maximize plasma levels. Remember, plasma needs to be created by the body...and this can't be done in 30 minutes. Research shows it takes about 2 hour for peak plasma levels to be acheived. Even the nitric oxide boosters in the product take about 2 hours to maximize nitric oxide production. All the ingredients within it were selected because they work perfectly together...and produce optimal effects at the same time.

Therefore, this product should be consumed 2 hours before training, so that you can receive 100% benefit from the product at the beginning of your training session.
Very good to know, would taking it first thing in the morning and training 10hrs later still be effective or is this something I should bring to work and maybe take it at lunch so it's closer to the workout. I guess I'm asking is 2 hours the rule or does it need at least 2 hours.
 

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When are you going to start supplying European markets?
Like Smont said, probably not anytime soon. The logistics and shipping costs involved are just too high. If I had a European manufacturer, it could work, but finding a reliable manufacturer on another continent is a whole other issue. Not only am I unaware of any European manufacturers, but if the manufacturer were to ever screw me over, it would be a total loss, as international lawsuits are ridiculously expensive, and therefore, generally not worth pursuing except in cases where massive amounts of money are at stake.
 

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Very good to know, would taking it first thing in the morning and training 10hrs later still be effective or is this something I should bring to work and maybe take it at lunch so it's closer to the workout. I guess I'm asking is 2 hours the rule or does it need at least 2 hours.
I would take it 2 hours prior...because even though the plasma boosting effects will be retained for several hours after that, the nitric oxide boosters do not retain peak effects for many hours.
 
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Definitely looking forward to this! My normal preworkout for the past few years has only been a caffeine pill and 5mg cialis..
I'm ready..
 
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It will be a powder; 2 pounds of powder at that. It's literally impossible to make an encapsulated AND effective plasma expander...either in the supplement world OR with script drugs. Any halfway decent plasma expander--even the injectable ones-are always high volume products.

You could mix it with BUILD, but I absolutely do not recommend it, as oral plasms expanders take a couple of hours for the ingredients within them to maximize plasma levels. Remember, plasma needs to be created by the body...and this can't be done in 30 minutes. Research shows it takes about 2 hour for peak plasma levels to be acheived. Even the nitric oxide boosters in the product take about 2 hours to maximize nitric oxide production. All the ingredients within it were selected because they work perfectly together...and produce optimal effects at the same time.

Therefore, this product should be consumed 2 hours before training, so that you can receive 100% benefit from the product at the beginning of your training session.
Interesting. Just about every pump product on the market says to take within 30 mins of workout.

Definitely going to purchase this, if/when it's available.
 

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I’ve tried *most* of the pump preworkouts on the market at this point so I would definitely be interested. I always love trying more novel ingredients/formulas. Looking forward to this!
 
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This sounds like a great idea, and if it works, it will be ground breaking.
 
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This is a product I am not familiar with?
Mike launched this around 6 years ago or so. He didn't make it for long, but it was by far the best pump product I personally used.
It did clump up though.
 
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Interesting

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Mike launched this around 6 years ago or so. He didn't make it for long, but it was by far the best pump product I personally used.
It did clump up though.
Yeah, glycerol is a great pump ingredient but always tends to clump up as a powder.
 

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Would this product be best taken daily? I have seen that recommended with nitrates before and I would assume plasma expanding ingredients would have some compounding effeft.
 

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Would this product be best taken daily? I have seen that recommended with nitrates before and I would assume plasma expanding ingredients would have some compounding effeft.
Just pre-workout. I mean, you can take it on any day you want, but I don't see a compelling reason for taking it on non-training days.
 
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Yeah, glycerol is a great pump ingredient but always tends to clump up as a powder.
Has anyone figured out a way to use Glycerol with out it clumping ?
 
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Has anyone figured out a way to use Glycerol with out it clumping ?
From my old days workign with iForce and having a stockpile of Hemavol; I always kept my tubs in the fridge when using them/freezer for 'long term' storage. Do the same with the current pre I'm using that has GMS, never really deal with clumping issues.
 

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Has anyone figured out a way to use Glycerol with out it clumping ?
There’s been new versions released that are supposed to help, but they only go so far. The whole benefit of glycerol is that it attracts water. It helps with hyper-hydration and increasing fluid volume.
 
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From my old days workign with iForce and having a stockpile of Hemavol; I always kept my tubs in the fridge when using them/freezer for 'long term' storage. Do the same with the current pre I'm using that has GMS, never really deal with clumping issues.
I have two or three in my freezer right now, unfortunately they were hard as a rock when I got them.
 

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Has anyone figured out a way to use Glycerol with out it clumping ?
Yeah, it can be done, but it depends on what it is combined with, as well as ingredient ratios. There's also manufacturing tactics you can use to help prevent it from clumping prior to opening, such as putting it in a container that has no air apace in it (i.e., the powder fills up the entire jug), putting multiple silica packets in it, and making sure the heat seal is as air tight as it gets.

After it is opened, the best place to store it is in the freezer. This will prevent clumping completely. Of course, you should replace the lid as soon as your done using it, and use the entire product within 6 weeks.

In short, as long as the company/manufacturer takes the proper steps...and the customer stores it in the freezer, clumping shouldn't be an issue.
 
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Yeah, it can be done, but it depends on what it is combined with, as well as ingredient ratios. There's also manufacturing tactics you can use to help prevent it from clumping prior to opening, such as putting it in a container that has no air apace in it (i.e., the powder fills up the entire jug), putting multiple silica packets in it, and making sure the heat seal is as air tight as it gets.

After it is opened, the best place to store it is in the freezer. This will prevent clumping completely. Of course, you should replace the lid as soon as your done using it, and use the entire product within 6 weeks.

In short, as long as the company/manufacturer takes the proper steps...and the customer stores it in the freezer, clumping shouldn't be an issue.
Thank you, for the info!
 

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mark me as interested, love me a good pump product.

would you consider adding any nootropics to help replace traditional pre's for those of us who like to take a break from stims? something like adrafinil and/or a racetam + a form of choline might be nice 🤷‍♂️ regardless, in Mike I trust and buy
 
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A low stim nootropic would be cool. Methyl Blue isn’t high on the stim but can’t be taken everyday with the PEA tolerance. I think stims are fine just nothing too high so you can have a low stim option or stack other stims
 
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A low stim nootropic would be cool. Methyl Blue isn’t high on the stim but can’t be taken everyday with the PEA tolerance. I think stims are fine just nothing too high so you can have a low stim option or stack other stims
might be a stupid question but with the name
And description any chance this could cause a false positive on a law enforcement drug test ?
 
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might be a stupid question but with the name
And description any chance this could cause a false positive on a law enforcement drug test ?
I don’t think so but I’m not the expert on that. But most preworkouts have PEA of some sort in them so I doubt it
 
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might be a stupid question but with the name
And description any chance this could cause a false positive on a law enforcement drug test ?
Technically, the PEA-based ingredients, or DMHA, can cause a failed drug test, but it depends on what test is being employed and what is being tested for. Generally, it is not an issue except for WADA testing, but it's always better to be safe than sorry, so you should always look into these details before consuming something.
 

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ULTIMATE Plasma Expansion-Vasodilation product.
Should we expect this early next year??
 

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Hey Mike, whatever happened to mitrazepine?
I sold the entire batch without labels. People just kept pm'ing me and asking me to buy it as it was. Now, I am planning on adjusting the formulas for Mitradopa and Mitrazepine, while using a new marketing angle. If anything, the formulas will be better. Less caps-equal potency.

Mitradopa will be renamed Mitradorphin (as in "endorphin"). Too many people thought the "dopa' part of the name meant "dope", rather than dopamine.
 
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