m4ohn and 4ad cyp

Bennett

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Do you all think this would make a good bulking cycle.I was thinking 10mg m4ohn ed and a gram a week of 4ad cyp for six weeks.I wont start it until 2 months after my current cycle,but I'm gonna buy it tommorow because I dont beleive their is going to be alot of 4ad cyp to go around.One more question;is a gram a week of 4ad enough or should I plan on using more?
 
that sounds pretty good. used alone, a gram of 4ad cyp might not be enough. in synergy with 10 mg of m40hn everyday, i have no idea.

fwiw, i greatly prefer 4ad prop or 4ad base to 4ad cyp.

but that's me
 
Why do you like the prop better than the cyp?I've never used either.Actualy this will be my first time pinning.
 
i got better results from the prop. yes, i know the cyp needs to be frontloaded more, takes longer to kick in, blah, blah, and of course the bigger ester means less mg of 4ad per mg of 4ad cyp, etc.

however, i just found the 4ad prop to be much "punchier". it is also (obviously) faster acting.

i know that it is accepted that esters don't accept the underlying substance, just the half-life/release time, and that may be true.

but i just don't think much of 4-ad cyp based on n=1 but love 4ad prop

and 4ad base
 
well assuming a fair %age of that 230 lbs is muscle - i think 1000 mg - 1200 mg a week would be quite good. of course, that's for 4ad prop alone. maybe with m40hn, a little less might be warranted, but that's a good benchmark imo

the prob with prop is a bit less soluble than cyp. 150 mg/ml is doable though.

so, at a max that is 8 mls per week.

4 day a week, 2ml each shot would work. easy enough

does sledge still sell 4ad prop powder?
 
No,he doesnt have 4ad prop anymore.He is going to have some cyp tommorow.Do you know of any where else to get 4ad prop?I,m thinking about trying to convert some base.I've read the instructions and it seems easy enough.
 
as far as i can recall, sledge was the only person to sell the 4ad prop. great stuff.

i'm not saying 4ad cyp sux. i just don't particularly like it.

i love 1-test cyp, but frankly (and others have noted the same) it appears to act more like a prop type ester than a cyp.

if sledge doesn't still carry 4ad prop, you're out of luck.

you might want to try 4-ad cyp combined with 4ad base for a frontload, but that would be a lot of shots, so maybe not

4-ad base roools, but it's a bit tricky to work with
 
you are welcome. if you ever see 4-ad prop on the market again, it's good stuff and you should pick some up. imnsho
 
Yeah I was th eonly one who had the prop, I have a very small amount of the Sledge Test which is the very last of the prop. I was saving some for myself but decided to let you guys have it instead.
So after those bottles are gone there is no more prop, not even for me.
 
Designer Supps said:
Yeah I was th eonly one who had the prop, I have a very small amount of the Sledge Test which is the very last of the prop. I was saving some for myself but decided to let you guys have it instead.
So after those bottles are gone there is no more prop, not even for me.
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Now if only he would sell us that 5AA-cyp he's been hiding :p
 
jjjd said:
that sounds pretty good. used alone, a gram of 4ad cyp might not be enough. in synergy with 10 mg of m40hn everyday, i have no idea.

fwiw, i greatly prefer 4ad prop or 4ad base to 4ad cyp.

but that's me
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You have pinned 4ad base?

What is your recipe for holding it in solution?

Greenguy
 
Bennett said:
Do you all think this would make a good bulking cycle.I was thinking 10mg m4ohn ed and a gram a week of 4ad cyp for six weeks.I wont start it until 2 months after my current cycle,but I'm gonna buy it tommorow because I dont beleive their is going to be alot of 4ad cyp to go around.One more question;is a gram a week of 4ad enough or should I plan on using more?
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I think M1,4ad is better for bulking. Try 30-40mg/day.

1200mg 4ad cyp/week is a minimum, It's only 4 mls a week, why go lower.

Front load 1200mg on first day, then 600mg 2x week. This is what I am currently doing, along with 6mg Methyl dien per day.

Greenguy
 
yes, i have made a 4ad base injectable.

10% peg, 10%bb, 5%ba and oil carrier worked nicely at 100 mg/ml.

it is a suspension, not a solution. but it is painless, and works fine
 
gotta use it everyday imo.

200 mg a day rocks. i would guess 100 mg at a bare minimum, safer with 150 at a minimum.

otoh, pincushion syndrome (tm) will set in with ed inject's... :)

i would definitely learn how to do ventro-glute shots, in addition to dorsal glutes, quads, and delts, if you're going to go with ed injects

that gives 8 locations and you don't have to spot inject into smaller groups like bis, etc.
 
Thanks. I have some 4ad cyp powder already. Not found of the "human pincushion" technique. The base would have to be last resort, unless I can brew it together with the cyp, hmmmmm....

Greenguy
 
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