m1t or Oxodrol

SamSmith

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Would an Oxodrol 4AD cycle have almost the same results but with less sides than a M1t 4AD cycle?

Here's what I'm thinking:
Week 1 - 4: 24 mg ED Superdrol
Week 1-2: 400 mg ED 4AD (regular non-derm / non-M)
Week 3-4: 600 mg ED 4AD
Week 5: Nolva 40mg
Week 6-8: Nolva 20mg

Any thoughts? I have a bottle of M1t too! Would the m1t be better? I've just heard aufull things about m1t sides.
 
Never ran either one. The last ph I took was Haladrol 50 and Orastan-A. This will be a bulking cycle that I'm planning for January. I do want the increase in size and power but I'm trying to avoid excessive bloating, which is why the 4AD concerns me a little. I guess you can't have it both ways. Without the 4AD the sides are probably rough - with it, I'll look like dough boy for a while I guess.
 
Also this is why I'm wondering if 400mg ED / 600 ED would be enough. I know many protocalls call for 600 - and 900.
 
ive never run 4ad, and the m1t sides at 5mg and 10 mg werent too bad. check out some logs. for me, superdrol(masterdrol) didnt have any major symptoms, the only one was acne and some huge pumps.
 
SamSmith said:
Never ran either one. The last ph I took was Haladrol 50 and Orastan-A. This will be a bulking cycle that I'm planning for January. I do want the increase in size and power but I'm trying to avoid excessive bloating, which is why the 4AD concerns me a little. I guess you can't have it both ways. Without the 4AD the sides are probably rough - with it, I'll look like dough boy for a while I guess.
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Just out of curiousity how did Orastan-A work for you?
 
mike3107 said:
Just out of curiousity how did Orastan-A work for you?
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It's ok. Along side the Haladrol, I gained about 10 pounds in 7 weeks and lots of power. The OA calls for like 3 tabs a day. I was taking 6. Liver got a little hot but nothing to be concerned about. Doc wasn't worried. (OA weeks 1-3; Halo and OA weeks 4-7).
 
to be honest i was on m1t for a week and a half and didnt notice anything ( receptors are shot to hell i think).

superdrol, my first cycle was sick. i put on lots of mass/strength and kept most of it.
 
thetimbomb said:
to be honest i was on m1t for a week and a half and didnt notice anything ( receptors are shot to hell i think).

superdrol, my first cycle was sick. i put on lots of mass/strength and kept most of it.
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I'm thinking I might do the Oxodrol 12 stand alone. I've never done it before so I should be good. The only reason I was going to stack 4ad is combat lethargy, libido loss etc.
 
I'm glad noone here jumped on the whole "M1t is rat poison" bandwagon... :)

Albeit hepatotoxicity isn't something to snub, I had great results and little sides off of a few runs with M1T ranging from 20mg/d to 30mg/d.

Headaches and irritability started at 30mg. Strength gains were phenomenal.. I ran Superdrol early this year and didn't get nearly as much strength out of it.. but I looked good.
 
Ubiquitous said:
I'm glad noone here jumped on the whole "M1t is rat poison" bandwagon... :)

Albeit hepatotoxicity isn't something to snub, I had great results and little sides off of a few runs with M1T ranging from 20mg/d to 30mg/d.

Headaches and irritability started at 30mg. Strength gains were phenomenal.. I ran Superdrol early this year and didn't get nearly as much strength out of it.. but I looked good.
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I agree - i.e., "rat poison bandwagon". From everything I've read, it's the legnth of the cycle that is the problem usually.
 
thetimbomb said:
just try and run one thing. you shouldnt need two products. just get some energy pills.
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Thanks. But the energy pills are not going to do anything about supression related sides. I've heard that m1t will shut you down within days! From what I've read, the 4AD really helps here. Any comments on that?
 
SamSmith said:
Thanks. But the energy pills are not going to do anything about supression related sides. I've heard that m1t will shut you down within days! From what I've read, the 4AD really helps here. Any comments on that?
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4AD will not help with surpression at all it might help with sides from MIT like lethargy and lowered libido.
 
Popa Murph said:
4AD will not help with surpression at all it might help with sides from MIT like lethargy and lowered libido.
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That's more or less what I meant. Good to hear. I may forgo it though. I'm already holding some extra water and few extra % of fat. I think the Oxodrol only or M1t only might be good for cleaning up a little.
 
I've run a quite a few orals: sd, pp, hd50, hmax, Mtrn, Mtst, Mzol, SNS Methyl drol (equal or better than sd imo), SNS Methyl plex, and M1T.

Favorites: M1T, SD, and MTRN

A few interesting cycles:

Most Recent:
M1T: 20mg/day
MTRN: 8mg/day
MZOL: 150mg/day
The M1T was cycled 2wks on/2 wks off. Ancillaries were taken a month before cycle, through cycle, and through PCT (Nolva/Clomi)
The results were nothing short of amazing. No shutdown AT ALL; the MTRN helped so damn much.

Others:
sd/pp split with mtrn and mzol all the way through
sd only
pp only
mtrn/mtst/mzol
sd, mtrn, and mzol
pp, mtrn, and mzol
hd50, orastan-e, mtrn, mtst

Yes, I've always had pre and post cycle bloodwork and have always been fine, and yes, I've always done a PROPER PCT. There were times, however, when I did not wait the suggested amount of time between cycles...oh well....I'm sure there will be some haters after that list.

My favorite oral cycle is definitely the M1T/MTRN/MZOL that I recently finished. M1T is not rat poison in my opinion. Only side AT ALL while taking it was a little lethargy. Otherwise, nothing but insane alpha male attitude and great gains.
 
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